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RushKing
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30 May 2019, 8:53 pm

Citizens don't have a moral obligation to let fascists organize in their own communities.

Just like Pepe doesn't have a moral obligation to let me stay and harass him inside his own room.



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30 May 2019, 11:50 pm

Pepe wrote:
In summary:
It seems to me that part of Antifa's manifesto is as follows: "Meet violence with violence."
Please correct me if I am wrong.

If so, I want nothing to do with this feral organisation and hope it fails here in Australia.
It is, after all, based on emotionalism which is the antithesis of my own personal manifesto. 8)

Except most of the time they’re the ones starting violence causing others to defend against them.


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31 May 2019, 12:32 am

sly279 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
In summary:
It seems to me that part of Antifa's manifesto is as follows: "Meet violence with violence."
Please correct me if I am wrong.

If so, I want nothing to do with this feral organisation and hope it fails here in Australia.
It is, after all, based on emotionalism which is the antithesis of my own personal manifesto. 8)

Except most of the time they’re the ones starting violence causing others to defend against them.


I know that's what the fascists claim, but they're no more honest with that claim then the majority of their claims. Considering the alt-right are open and proud of their dishonesty and disconnect from reality, I'm not sure why a reasonable person would ever start with the assumption that they're telling the truth.


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31 May 2019, 10:17 pm

RushKing wrote:
Pepe wrote:
In summary:
It seems to me that part of Antifa's manifesto is as follows: "Meet violence with violence."
Please correct me if I am wrong.

If so, I want nothing to do with this feral organisation and hope it fails here in Australia.
It is, after all, based on emotionalism which is the antithesis of my own personal manifesto. 8)

In summary:

Self defense is evil.

Please correct me if I am wrong.


Once again.
Please read my lips:
The situation here in Australia is different to that of Amerika.

Here in Australia, conservatives (not the alt right) need protection from the far left rather than those who are left-wing needing protection from the far right, based on what I have seen on the Australian media.

I am Australian.
I don't what Antifa to flourish here.

Edit: I am getting the impression you are a member of Antifa, or at least actively support them. 8O


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08 Jul 2019, 3:52 pm

Pepe wrote:
RushKing wrote:
Pepe wrote:
In summary:
It seems to me that part of Antifa's manifesto is as follows: "Meet violence with violence."
Please correct me if I am wrong.

If so, I want nothing to do with this feral organisation and hope it fails here in Australia.
It is, after all, based on emotionalism which is the antithesis of my own personal manifesto. 8)

In summary:

Self defense is evil.

Please correct me if I am wrong.


Once again.
Please read my lips:
The situation here in Australia is different to that of Amerika.

Here in Australia, conservatives (not the alt right) need protection from the far left rather than those who are left-wing needing protection from the far right, based on what I have seen on the Australian media.

I am Australian.
I don't what Antifa to flourish here.

Edit: I am getting the impression you are a member of Antifa, or at least actively support them. 8O

The situations in America and Australia are quite similar. Both countries have an active far right with a degree of political traction, although in Australia it is fractured across six minor parties who between them get about 10% of the vote (it seems unreasonable to count the Liberal/National joint ticket, particularly as the National Party seem the least bananas of the right-wing parties). In America there is a strong left-wing streak in the Democratic Party and certainly it is evident in the grassroots. There is also a Green Party who are occasionally capable of coming fourth in a two-horse race.

The Australian Greens are more successful than the American Greens, but are also pacifists. Then the only other left-of-centre party to get more than 0.5% of the vote is the Labor Party, and they're presently very much a centrist party - Bill Shorten is a milquetoast social democrat, not a firebrand radical.

Are there any left-wing groups in Australia comparable to the Antipodean Resistance, the True Blue Crew, Reclaim Australia, the United Patriots Front, National Action, or the Soldiers of Odin? Any Australian Marxists heading over to New Zealand to commit terrorist attacks? Hell, is there even a left-wing equivalent to the Q Society or the Yellow Vest Alliance?



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08 Jul 2019, 10:18 pm

If someone has such a generous schedule that they can drop everything to show up for all demonstrations, they are not to be feared. If they can afford to risk life and limb, to participate in activities which may result in grievous injury, they are not to be feared. This goes for both sides. This is not the wild west anymore. The ones who think it still is just end up six feet under.

The real threats are not in the streets, at demonstrations, etc...

They are safe, inside. And they have nothing but silent contempt. So, y'all keep boxing each others ears while they forget your names (if they ever knew them in the first place).


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