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16 May 2019, 8:06 pm
Tim_Tex wrote:
I’d rather live in Cuba, Venezuela, or even North Korea. At least people can get abortions in those countries, and there’s no oppression or bullying of LGBT people because in two of those countries, religion is banned.
Sorry to see you go.
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16 May 2019, 8:54 pm
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Neo Nazis and other fascists deserve to get their asses beat. They've killed a good number of people through mass shootings and whatnot, so whooping their asses would be justified.
By your reasoning:
Some hardline Muslims are terrorists, therefore all hardline Muslims are terrorists.
<change of tack>
There is an additional problem.
Some/many left-wing extremists also attack moderates who's opinions they don't like either.
This collateral damage is a major concern.
And who defines where the line is between alt. right philosophy and conservative thinking?
The problem with some far left extremists is that, like some of the alt. right, they are emotionalistic knuckledraggers who couldn't find 2 brain cells to rub together.
They are fed and ruled by their endorphins and dopamines.
In essence, they are simple organic drug junkies.
Do we really want to encourage troglodytes who can't distinguish between alt. right from moderate conservatives who are simply expressing their point of view?
Do we really want these quasi-humans to join the "conversation" without a leash?
I thank you.
<steps off soap box>
There's nothing wrong with being a Muslim. There IS something wrong with being a Nazi or a white supremacist.
Hmmm.
Interesting how you changed the context.
Interesting how you dropped my qualifier of: "Hardline".
Straw man stuff?
If "hardline" = extremist.
And some/most Muslim extremists believe in the concept that all infidels should be killed. (ISIS)
Then both examples of extremism are wrong, surely.
May I suggest you be extra vigilant in inadvertently changing the context when you converse with me.
I will pick up on that.
It is my specialty.
Pax.
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17 May 2019, 1:00 am
Daniel89 wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Neo Nazis and other fascists deserve to get their asses beat. They've killed a good number of people through mass shootings and whatnot, so whooping their asses would be justified.
Do you feel the same about Socialists? Muslims? Christians?
Hell no. There are bad Muslims, Christians, and socialists out there, but there's nothing wrong with being any of those things. Now, being a Nazi, on the other hand, means that you stand for racism and other forms of discrimination, and against democracy and human rights.
Pepe wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Neo Nazis and other fascists deserve to get their asses beat. They've killed a good number of people through mass shootings and whatnot, so whooping their asses would be justified.
By your reasoning:
Some hardline Muslims are terrorists, therefore all hardline Muslims are terrorists.
<change of tack>
There is an additional problem.
Some/many left-wing extremists also attack moderates who's opinions they don't like either.
This collateral damage is a major concern.
And who defines where the line is between alt. right philosophy and conservative thinking?
The problem with some far left extremists is that, like some of the alt. right, they are emotionalistic knuckledraggers who couldn't find 2 brain cells to rub together.
They are fed and ruled by their endorphins and dopamines.
In essence, they are simple organic drug junkies.
Do we really want to encourage troglodytes who can't distinguish between alt. right from moderate conservatives who are simply expressing their point of view?
Do we really want these quasi-humans to join the "conversation" without a leash?
I thank you.
<steps off soap box>
There's nothing wrong with being a Muslim. There IS something wrong with being a Nazi or a white supremacist.
Hmmm.
Interesting how you changed the context.
Interesting how you dropped my qualifier of: "Hardline".
Straw man stuff?
If "hardline" = extremist.
And some/most Muslim extremists believe in the concept that all infidels should be killed. (ISIS)
Then both examples of extremism are wrong, surely.
May I suggest you be extra vigilant in inadvertently changing the context when you converse with me.
I will pick up on that.
It is my specialty.
Pax.
Some Muslims happen to be extremists, I get that. I'm not against Muslims, but I am against extremism.
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18 May 2019, 7:47 pm
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What distinguishes Antifa from other far-left groups is their stated intention to use violence where they see fit, and an existential opposition to far-right movements.
"They subscribe to the idea that violence against the far-right is permissible," says Roose. "The two groups [far-right groups and Antifa] feed off one another. The Antifa absolutely despises the far-right and the far-right absolutely hates the Antifa.
"There is a sort of reciprocity between the groups which appear more interested in targeting each other rather than in winning mainstream support." https://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/ita ... tors-peace
"They subscribe to the idea that violence against the far-right is permissible," says Roose. "The two groups [far-right groups and Antifa] feed off one another. The Antifa absolutely despises the far-right and the far-right absolutely hates the Antifa.
"There is a sort of reciprocity between the groups which appear more interested in targeting each other rather than in winning mainstream support." https://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/ita ... tors-peace
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Is Australia different?
Australia has its own history of far-right and -left movements, similar to those of European nations and the US where Antifa regularly clashes with far-right groups, but has its differences as well.
"We have a stronger and more centralized state apparatus than many states and a far more securitized public space than overseas particularly in the last 2 decades with the strengthening of security anti-terrorism legislation," says Roose.
Yet clashes still do occur, such as the 2016 'Battle of Coburg' in Melbourne, where a few dozen far-right and Antifa protestors clashed outside a local school.
"Coburg - traditionally a working class labor heartland - is going through a rapid process of gentrification," says Roose. "So there is tension between the higher income green-voting people moving in and the old working class that still owns a house there but struggle to buy groceries.
"It is a very symbolic ground for the Antifa and far-right clash." https://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/ita ... tors-peace
Australia has its own history of far-right and -left movements, similar to those of European nations and the US where Antifa regularly clashes with far-right groups, but has its differences as well.
"We have a stronger and more centralized state apparatus than many states and a far more securitized public space than overseas particularly in the last 2 decades with the strengthening of security anti-terrorism legislation," says Roose.
Yet clashes still do occur, such as the 2016 'Battle of Coburg' in Melbourne, where a few dozen far-right and Antifa protestors clashed outside a local school.
"Coburg - traditionally a working class labor heartland - is going through a rapid process of gentrification," says Roose. "So there is tension between the higher income green-voting people moving in and the old working class that still owns a house there but struggle to buy groceries.
"It is a very symbolic ground for the Antifa and far-right clash." https://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/ita ... tors-peace
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18 May 2019, 7:56 pm
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Does the Antifa Flag Resemble a Nazi Flag?
A political group without an official flag has nonetheless been represented by many photoshopped ones. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/antifa-nazi-flags/
A political group without an official flag has nonetheless been represented by many photoshopped ones. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/antifa-nazi-flags/
Was it deliberate irony that Antifa flags use the same colours as the swastika?
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"A stranger is a friend gang-stalker you haven't met yet." Humour is not meant to be taken seriously, yet many on the left pervert its intent.
Truth may be inconvenient but it is never politically incorrect...The Oracle of Truth has spoken...
THERE WILL BE NO COUP IN AMERICA!
18 May 2019, 9:04 pm
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
So in other words AntiFa was doing the right thing. Point noted.
I don't know whether Noam Chomsky is still in favor at all, the overton window seems to have moved passed him and he's looking center center-right more and more every day against the backdrop, however he had some choice comments about AntiFa. Who knows, he might be considered a conservative fossil in the current climate but I figure at least older millenials, gen x'ers, and baby boomers remember when he was considered 'Godfather of the Left'.
Quote:
"Hey, dipshits, when you move into the arena for violence, what do you think is going to happen."
Agreed.
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