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10 Jun 2019, 4:20 pm

'Moderates' doesn't mean anything.


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10 Jun 2019, 4:22 pm

What term would you use then, John? :)



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11 Jun 2019, 2:05 am

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There are only two ways that Johnson might not win imo:

1) Somehow Raab (or even less likely, McVey) gets to the final two.
2) He makes a big blunder that somehow hurts him more than all the ones he's made in the past.


Heard a former colleague of Johnson's say on the radio last week 'the more Johnson talks the less likely he is to be PM' so this time they have made a decision that he just doesn't really do interviews. he has his own newspaper column so puts his views over in that after his people have approved it. They are reportedly pushing back on him appearing on any telly debates, though if he is the only one that doesn't do it then it looks bad so they are trying to call the telly debates off completely just to save him. :lol:

I also find it interesting when the justification of backing him is because he will beat Corbyn in a GE. Kwarteng was the latest to say that publicly yesterday. A subtle admission that they know a GE later this year is getting ever likelier.



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11 Jun 2019, 3:14 am

The Boris Big Blunder scenario seems quite likely to me. On the other hand he seems to get away more with that sort of stuff.


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11 Jun 2019, 3:54 am







whether this is future trend for the anglos as well .. shall us be tentative.



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11 Jun 2019, 4:22 am

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whether this is future trend for the anglos as well .. shall us be tentative.


Sorry, I don't get the point. What's the trend here?


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11 Jun 2019, 11:47 am

The_Walrus wrote:
What term would you use then, John? :)


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11 Jun 2019, 11:57 am

shlaifu wrote:
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whether this is future trend for the anglos as well .. shall us be tentative.


Sorry, I don't get the point. What's the trend here?


A sock puppet that doesn't take no for an answer if my spidey senses are working correctly :spiderman:


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11 Jun 2019, 4:42 pm

SaveFerris wrote:
shlaifu wrote:
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whether this is future trend for the anglos as well .. shall us be tentative.


Sorry, I don't get the point. What's the trend here?


A sock puppet that doesn't take no for an answer if my spidey senses are working correctly :spiderman:


I don't understand french and what's going on in the video, but I do understand German and have been following that video - and the reaction of 4he media and the german government to it.

government: " that's all fake news, we need real journalism"
the real journalists: "well, on some of the points he only cites one source, rather than several sources, but the sources he cites are all credible, he's factually correct. His argument is one-sided, but well researched."
government: " ..... we will make our own viral video! (also: how about we crnsor speech on the internet in the weeks before elections? no?)"

I wouldn't call the german guy a sock puppet- he did a good job on this, and reached a largely apolitical audience with an hour long account of failings and incompetences of the ruling party...


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11 Jun 2019, 7:47 pm

Biscuitman wrote:
Heard a former colleague of Johnson's say on the radio last week 'the more Johnson talks the less likely he is to be PM'

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17 Jun 2019, 2:07 am

Not sure I believe that letter is true as it is always said he only took on the name Boris in adulthood.



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19 Jun 2019, 11:24 am

Biscuitman wrote:
Not sure I believe that letter is true as it is always said he only took on the name Boris in adulthood.


Wikipedia wrote:
Johnson was awarded a King's Scholarship to study at Eton College, the elite independent boarding school in Eton, Berkshire.[41] Arriving in the autumn term of 1977,[42] Johnson began using the given name Boris rather than Alex, and developed "the eccentric English persona" for which he would become known.[43]

Reference 43 is:
Purnell, Sonia (2011). Just Boris: Boris Johnson: The Irresistible Rise of a Political Celebrity. London: Aurum Press Ltd. ISBN 978-1-84513-665-9.



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Wow. Even the tv schedule has become a political satire magazine.
(It did make me laugh, I have to admit. And worry)


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20 Jun 2019, 5:42 pm

shlaifu wrote:
Gromit wrote:
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Wow. Even the tv schedule has become a political satire magazine.
(It did make me laugh, I have to admit. And worry)

Don't worry, Americans will be joining them in hell soon enough. :twisted:


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