Is it ok to be a nationalist on Wrong Planet?

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Acteon25
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12 Aug 2019, 8:51 am

I’m a national socialist but not a Nazi. I support strong borders and decentralised government (anti-EU). I also believe at least 70% of the population of all countries should be made-up of the original people who formed the nation.

I think the modern definition of nationality is meaningless e.g. a person born to English parents in Japan is not “Japanese” they are English. I do not hate anyone for their race, but I believe homogeneous societies are safer and fairer.

These are my opinions. I always try to see both sides of every story. I am willing to be wrong in an argument and to learn from others. These views got me kicked off Twitter and constantly abused by so-called “liberals”. I have lost good friends for being a “racist” even though I am not anything of the sort.



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12 Aug 2019, 9:03 am

In the United States, that's never going to happen. We have so many ethnicities. And it's been that way since at least the late 19th century.

I don't believe 70% of the people in the United State are "native born." I would be shocked if this has not been the case since the late 19th century.

Nobody can legislate that away.

I believe in maintaining ethnic identity----but I also believe ethnicities should be able to mix with each other. I believe a person has the right to marry one in their own ethnicity, and not be attacked. I also believe a person has a right to marry someone not of their own ethnicity, and not be attacked.

I have travelled some. I believe the English are still the English, primarily. And French are still the French, etc. And Sweden hasn't earned a "stan" as a suffix for the name of their country.

Cultural identity remains quite strong, despite so-called "mongrelization." And, in the case of the UK, assimilation into the general UK culture is very strong amongst most "other" ethnicities. Probably not so much with immigrants----but very much so for the children of immigrants. Though most immigrants do assimilate quite well.



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12 Aug 2019, 9:13 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
In the United States, that's never going to happen. We have so many ethnicities. And it's been that way since at least the late 19th century.

I don't believe 70% of the people in the United State are "native born." I would be shocked if this has not been the case since the late 19th century.

Nobody can legislate that away.

I believe in maintaining ethnic identity----but I also believe ethnicities should be able to mix with each other. I believe a person has the right to marry one in their own ethnicity, and not be attacked. I also believe a person has a right to marry someone not of their own ethnicity, and not be attacked.

I have travelled some. I believe the English are still the English, primarily. And French are still the French, etc. And Sweden hasn't earned a "stan" as a suffix for the name of their country.

Cultural identity remains quite strong, despite so-called "mongrelization." And, in the case of the UK, assimilation into the general UK culture is very strong amongst most "other" ethnicities. Probably not so much with immigrants----but very much so for the children of immigrants. Though most immigrants do assimilate quite well.


I just wanted to emphasise that I don’t believe in an ethnostate. I don’t think it’s possible or beneficial to the country. I know immigrants in England who are far more nationalist than native-born people. However, race is important so I don’t define myself as a civic nationalist anymore. I would be lying if said I would rather live in a minority white English area. No one should be attacked for who they choose to marry, but it does seem mainstream media is trying to push interracial families onto the population. It’s not the norm, it never will be. It’s massively over represented on TV in UK.



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12 Aug 2019, 9:27 am

As long as you don't, say, start quoting studies which states that blacks have "lower IQ's" than whites, or express the opinion that a certain ethnic group is "inferior" to another ethnic group, then you should be okay.

I guess we would have to see how people react to your views----and how you react to their reactions. If you can argue respectfully, then you should be okay. If you start personally attacking people who don't agree with you, it would not be okay on this Site.

Holocaust Denial is a no-no----especially since there is no doubt that the Holocaust happened.



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12 Aug 2019, 9:52 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
As long as you don't, say, start quoting studies which states that blacks have "lower IQ's" than whites, or express the opinion that a certain ethnic group is "inferior" to another ethnic group, then you should be okay.

I guess we would have to see how people react to your views----and how you react to their reactions. If you can argue respectfully, then you should be okay. If you start personally attacking people who don't agree with you, it would not be okay on this Site.

Holocaust Denial is a no-no----especially since there is no doubt that the Holocaust happened.


I wouldn’t quote studies like that, but I don’t see why not. People can quote those studies if they like. I’m all for free speech. It depends on their argument.

Yes, I always debate respectfully.

I don’t agree with that. Why is holocaust denial a no no? If you’re so certain it happened, it must be easy to refute their claims.



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12 Aug 2019, 10:01 am

You should Google "Holocaust Photos." You can't fake that.

I believe a person's "intelligence," definitely, is a reflection, equally, of how a person is raised, and in what environment----and "native intelligence."

The reason why black people have "lower IQs," I believe, is because the Weschler's test, probably not deliberately, is biased towards those who are of European descent, and live in at least "middle-class" conditions socioeconomically. I don't believe Weschler desired that there should be biased----he just didn't have experience in milieus other than his own German/European, "middle class" one.



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12 Aug 2019, 10:14 am

IMO All those who can not prove pre Bell beaker ancestry should be made to leave the UK :wink:



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12 Aug 2019, 10:29 am

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IMO All those who can not prove pre Bell beaker ancestry should be made to leave the UK :wink:


:lol: I’d say that’s about 95% of the population.



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12 Aug 2019, 10:31 am

It's probably close to 100% of the population.



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12 Aug 2019, 10:34 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
You should Google "Holocaust Photos." You can't fake that.

I believe a person's "intelligence," definitely, is a reflection, equally, of how a person is raised, and in what environment----and "native intelligence."

The reason why black people have "lower IQs," I believe, is because the Weschler's test, probably not deliberately, is biased towards those who are of European descent, and live in at least "middle-class" conditions socioeconomically. I don't believe Weschler desired that there should be biased----he just didn't have experience in milieus other than his own German/European, "middle class" one.


What the heck, I wrote a long reply to this post but it hasn’t appeared.

Basically, I said I don’t see a problem with discussing these sensitive topics.



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12 Aug 2019, 10:50 am

I don't believe one ethnicity, or one race, is inherently "inferior" to another ethnicity or race.

I believe one has to take individuals into account more than entire ethnic groups.

I'm not going to look at a black person and say. "He's [or whatever gender] is black----therefore, he's inferior to me, and has a lower IQ, by virtue of he [or whatever gender] being black."



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12 Aug 2019, 10:57 am

"sample": "Custom:Tim_G_scaled",
"fit": 1.8726,
"Bell_Beaker_England": 91.2,
"England_N": 8.8, (pre Bell beaker)


"sample": "Custom:Tim_G",
"fit": 1.0572,
"Bell_Beaker_England": 93.8,
"England_N": 6.2,(pre Bell beaker)


According to a tool created by a poster at https://anthrogenica.com/forum.php



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12 Aug 2019, 11:06 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I don't believe one ethnicity, or one race, is inherently "inferior" to another ethnicity or race.

I believe one has to take individuals into account more than entire ethnic groups.

I'm not going to look at a black person and say. "He's [or whatever gender] is black----therefore, he's inferior to me, and has a lower IQ, by virtue of he [or whatever gender] being black."


kraftiekortie wrote:
I don't believe one ethnicity, or one race, is inherently "inferior" to another ethnicity or race.

I believe one has to take individuals into account more than entire ethnic groups.

I'm not going to look at a black person and say. "He's [or whatever gender] is black----therefore, he's inferior to me, and has a lower IQ, by virtue of he [or whatever gender] being black."


No neither will I. I wish my original post sent. The main reason why I said “race is important” is because we can derive valuable information from race, for instance some races are more prone to certain illnesses. This idea that race doesn’t matter (or doesn’t exist, even) isn’t helpful in my opinion.

It’s no secret that blacks are over represented in knife crime. I believe it’s a cultural problem, their idols are mostly gang members or degenerate rappers. It’s human nature to group people into categories and to make assumptions. I try my best to see people as individuals. All I really care about is “are they a nice person?” but I think it would be foolish of me not to make initial assumptions based on race. In the UK we had stop and search laws banned because they were seen as “racist”. Knife crime is rampant today. They said black people were being unfairly targeted more often than whites. In my opinion, a black person is more likely to carry a knife so they will need to be searched more often. It’s unfortunate if an innocent person gets searched but it has to happen to keep us all safe.



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12 Aug 2019, 11:12 am

If they say white people are more prone to gun violence than other "races," I wouldn't want to be constantly searched and harassed because I am white.

Encounters with police tend not to be pleasant affairs.

Would you like to be searched if it is found that people with Aspergers are more prone to violence?



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12 Aug 2019, 12:12 pm

I have no issues with your personal opinions on this and you are free to maintain whatever personal ethnic reproduction practices you wish.
I would oppose any state/government influence to impose these beliefs on any group of people.
That's where I stand.



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12 Aug 2019, 12:16 pm

"Good Genes" does not guarantee "Good Kids."