Funny Leftism Ramt

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The left wing in this continent (especially in Canada) seems to believe that if it protests loud enough; all the other problems in the world will solve themselves... it's just a question of volume... more people at protests... louder people at protests... louder music based on protest...

This strategy has worked great hasn't it? This explains why the past five presidents have either been hyper-pragmatic (Clinton, Carter) or ultra-conservative (Reagan, anybody named Bush)... and also why in Canada only two parties have occupied 24 Sussex Drive...

The left-wing in North America is so self-absorbed and self-important that it doesn't even realize it's own powerlessness...

The working class in North America does not listen to Hardcore Punk or Rage Against the Machine... it listens to the Dixie Chicks and Shania Twain... the working class in North America is not receptive to animal rights or anti-capitalism... they watch Fox News and Global... and most importantly if the working class ever saw a radical leftist... they'd either mock you or spit on you...

One of the things the actual poor (immigrants, natives, factory workers, farmers) hate the MOST in this continent are rich, white overpriveleged kids wasting Daddy's trust fund to fight their personal crusades for "the animals" or "the rainforest"... if you actually had to live in the rainforest you'd beg for your oppresive, patriarchal, technocratic society where medical care is available at every mall and nobody has to worry about dying of polio...

That's the reason Bush got elected; that's the reason the War on Iraq continues even though there were no weapons... and this is why the Christian Right has more power than every organic-tofu munching, nature worshipping, animal liberating, ultra-socialist...

The left betrayed itself and every idea it ever stood for... do you know why I say this? I used to be a leftist... I used to believe the whole package... saving the rainforest, acquiring rights for animals, ending animal testing, fighting economic globalization and establishing an anarchist utopia where everybody is equal...

Then I got real problems... real big real problems come puberty...

One of the things you learn when you have real problems is you feel nothing but Quasars of contempt for these patronizing snobs; rich, overpriveleged white kids trying to save the rainforest while drinking coffee or trying to stop oil companies while driving around in polluting Greenpeace boats... these people act as if economic globalization is the worst thing to happen since fascism (which by the way; considered itself leftist and anti-capitalist)... these people act as if a Starbucks in their neighbourhood or a McDonalds in China is a sign of the apocalypse...

These ultra-leftists will constantly preach endless problems which can't be proven anymore than unicorns and leprechauns... genetically modified food, poisonous meat, addictive cheese, economic globalization, speciesism, honey, Starbucks in my neighbourhood, McDonalds in Russia, Barnes and Nobles, Chapters and a government which puts human beings first instead of rats and swamps...

You know what their real problem is? Their real problem is their weak-mindedness and their unending desire to "save the world" like characters in some B-grade fantasy novel... nobody simply recycles or composts in the radical left... everybody's gotta "save the planet" or "smash the corporate machine"... nobody in today's radical left volunteers at an animal shelter or walks their neighbour's dog... everybody's got to "go vegan" to starve their frail, corpselike bodies or "free the animals" from the oppresion of dairy farms and kennels... nobody can be humble or pleasant or autistic... everybody's got to be an activist...

I feel so much contempt for ultra-leftists and so much self-hatred for once being one... you know what I do? I live the exact opposite of their philosophy... I'm not an activist or a liberator or a freedom fighter I'm a monk... I don't liberate animals... I pet the neighbour's cat and teach their dog how to shake... I don't intercept tankers with my polluting boat... I go on nature hikes through the forest and recycle everything I can...

And most of all... just to get back at those poor, rich, pharisaic pale Noam Chomsky wannabes... I shop at lots of corporate stores... the prices are low... the staff are accomodating and the selection is a small universe... I eat a little bit at McDonald's or Wendy's... I sip apple cider at Starbucks... I buy a book or two at Barne's and Noble's... I get a little article of clothing at Sears or Wal-Mart... the quality for the price is outstanding... and I'm sticking it to people who think Michael Moore is the chief philosopher of our time...

What happens when Lucifer falls again and becomes an Archangel?

FOX news is so biased, i condider myself conservative but fox makes bush look like john kerry

I consider myself a liberal... but FOX news is really out of control...

Oh my God! Gay people want to get married! What's next? Cats and dogs living in the same house?

The trouble is, the extreme left are fascists as much as the extreme right, who attract that label.


I guess I think of society as a vehicle, and the left as the accelerator and the right as the brake, so it's ridiculous for the accelerator to comdemn the brake and vice versa, they're both perfectly natural and needed forces for the vehicle. That the accelerator gives itelf a halo and calls everything it does 'modern' or 'good' is absurd, these things have been going on forever.

I'm not gonna try to argue the rest of what you said, but what I just quoted I definitely think is quite a stretch. Maybe it's just the fact that I live in Cleveland which is a liberal coastal city, but I can tell you that country makes up maybe 25%, rap another 25%, metal, punk, and hardcore another 20%, and then there's just lots of pop-culture idiots (well, I take that back, there's about 5% who are into jungle, trance, techno, and stuff like that such as myself).

As far as the people I work with, it's probably 95 liberals to 5 conservatives. In the front of the house, the only other conservative is this 70 year old hostess who gets on peoples nerves for being anal about things (then again lots of people just don't like doing their jobs and don't like having it called on em either). Even with coworkers I get along with fine, they'r always giving me subtle shots about my views.

Would it be different if I lived out in Wyoming or something? Probably. However, I really think the idea that working Americans are on average country music fans who go to church every Sunday is about as true as the idea that the midwest is all cornfields and baseball diamonds (ie. the 'Field of Dreams' misconception some people on the coasts have). I don't know where your from or whether or not your in the US but its a lot more diverse than you think; including the variety of people who consider themselves republicans or conservatives.

edit: one more point; I have at least a handful of friends and aquaintences who are conservatives, don't know one another, and her's the makeup: at least 2 are big rap-metalheads (one is a drummer for a local rap-metal band who's also into extreme BMX on the half pipe, the other is a dj who alternates between jungle and scratch hip-hop) and I know a lot of others who are in that category. Then again maybe it's a blue-collar set of ethics, I don't know. I can tell you that they're also very ambitious, responsible, and for as much bud as they smoke or acid they've dropped they're also self-motivated A students much like myself.

The democratic party here in the US fell out of power simply becasue they've slide to far to the left politically to be seen as mainstream by the majority of the people. Case in point - who's head of the demeocratic party now here in the US? The screamer Howard Dean.

The last election should have been a wake up call for them. They haven't held power in congress now for ten years, and their most congressional leader, Tom Daschle was ousted from office with the help of a nation wide grass-roots campaign.

I think that being an extremist is always a bad thing. However, I would rather have the country run by a left-wing radical than the people running it now.

That is not entirely true. Richard Nixon was actually more left-wing than Bill Clinton. The democratic party has actually made a shift to the right, but the American people have made a shift farther to the right.

Bill Clinton was fairly middle of the road. It was also during his first term when the republicans took over congress. It was the second biggest shift of political power in US history. Conservative pundits will tell you that Hiliary's health care plan was what shifted the tide, but I tend not to believe it.



I have to disagree with you on the first point. The leaders of the democratic party have shut out and ingored the more moderate voices in the party like Zel Miller, who was the key note speaker at the 1992 democratic convention, and who has now written a book about the delcline of party.

Another example of the party shifting to the left would be the filibuster of judical canidates in the senate. Back in 1991 when the Clarence Thomas fiasco was going on, the sentate didn't even have the courage to filibuster his nomination. If anyone thinks the fall-out from clarence thomas was bad, just wait and see how bad things get when Bush tries to nominate someone.

In 1961 JKF was talking about massive tax cuts for the rich in the USA, something a party line democrat would never even think about today.

I personally think that Bill Clinton was hyper-pragmatic...

No ideology besides impressing the people who voted him into office...

That's arguably better...

To be honest I swing to the right for many policies.

I don't know whether it's a good thing or a bad thing.

It's arguably a good thing...

Conservatives; We have no affiliation with Bill Clinton; so vote for us...

Because an affiliation with George W. Bush is so much better.

Frankly the right is so much worse than the left...All I can tell from that rant about Leftism in America is that leftists are simply highly motivated people with good intentions, only that they do not know how to carry it out. Compared to the Right? Heh. I would definitely pick a bunch of idealistic-but-clueless people over some hateful warmongers, racist bigots and intolerant fundamentalists forcing their Christian beliefs and "values" on the rest of the world.

No doubt looking at the big picture is a problem for many of us, but we have to do so here. So what if their 'greenpeace' boats are also polluting. Are you saying that those huge behemoths run by large companies do not pollute more than those tiny boats? Sometimes the greater good cannot be achieved without doing some harm. This goes for recycling as well. It is not as though the machinery in recycling plants do not emit harmful substances. Frankly, I see a greater hypocrisy in MNCs who dump thousands of gallons worth of toxic substances, yet encourage people to keep the Earth clean and green (Read: They want us to clean up the mess they had made, for free). I also think its good to enjoy nature, but remember, if the powers that be continue to remain unchecked, soon there will be nothing left.

As a foreigner, I am distressed to see how ultra conservative the US is. Whatever the US does affects the entire world. I do think that the working class in America is laregly oblivious to the various atrocities that happened in the war, and the utter hypocrisy and greed perpetrated by the American conservative government. As for teenagers in America, I sure as hell would like to see what is being called "rich, white overpriveleged kids wasting Daddy's trust fund to fight their personal crusades for "the animals" or "the rainforest"." Because near as I can tell, most American teenagers are rich, white, overpriveleged kids who are apathetic and wasting their dads money on trendy clothes etc. Blame it on the 'loud music' of today like Linkin Park and Avril Lavigne, encouraging pointless rebellion and superficiality. At least RATM rallied for a good cause, and while they were at it, supported many voluntary organizations which many conservatives will not even look at. Actually, the ignorance of many teenagers is a worldwide problem, arguably one of the worse here in Singapore (Singapore is essentially what happens when the Asian equivalents of rednecks and inbred hicks gain acess to advanced technology)

Which brings me to another point; the fact that many leftist websites I've been to were concerned about the Tsumami tragedy in SEA (A place pretty close to home for me) and were open for donation collection while many Right-wingers were apathetic at best and at worst, vindictively laughing at the people who suffered in the tragedy for not believing in their jealous God. *Death glare at Fred Phelps*

One more thing I would like to add is that while Nazi germany did espouse socialism, they were extremely right-wing in practice. They basically went on and did what many extreme right wingers are pushing for today; Genocide and ethnic cleansing, political orthodoxy, limitations imposed on one's social feedom and privacy, utter obedience to the government and elite etc.

I do not think the right is going to let us be 'pleasant, humble or autistic' either. Chances are that the right-wingers believe autism to be 'a matter of discipline' and would attempt to 'whip us back into shape' a la CAN, or they would see us as genetic inferiors and kill us all. Please do not forget the same would have happened in Nazi Germany if not for Hans Asperger's emphasis on our positive traits.

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but I don't mind being removed from the gene pool. if that's what the majority want, let them have it.

Good point...

The left are hypocritical and self-important... but President Bush is worse...

It's interesting how oblivious and arrogant American Conservatives are to the rest of the world... they act like they're in a bad movie...

The fact that Bush had no plans to rebuild Iraq or win over the hearts and minds of Iraqis... and that Abu Ghraib was allowed to happen shows what American conservativism is doing...

I find it very very disheartening that forgieners have such distorted, mal-aligned, and inaccurate views of americans.

You're referring to a vastly small minority of the the people here in the US. 99%+ of all americans, including teenagers are hard-working, god fearing people who bust their asses off to get what they have, and they just want to go about their daily lives and be left in peace, and don't appreciate comments like the above.

As for the rest of what you wrote, please read this
http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/Our_Culture/americans.htm