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who created the creator who created the universe?
i dunno. :shrug: 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
i know but i ain't tellin' ;) 10%  10%  [ 1 ]
metaverse always existed outside of human comprehension :study: 30%  30%  [ 3 ]
god's father :idea: 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
the master control program :nerdy: 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
some other explanation :idea: :idea: 40%  40%  [ 4 ]
where's my divine ice cream? :chef: 20%  20%  [ 2 ]
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14 Nov 2019, 10:48 am

Never heard of the guy.....



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14 Nov 2019, 10:49 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Never heard of the guy.....

you mentioned "Divine" and "funny taste" - Divine was the stage name of the late Glenn Milstead [RIP], i can tell you have never watched a John Waters movie ;)



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14 Nov 2019, 11:02 am

I've seen that person known as "Divine." He/she reminds me somewhat of Dom Deluise, somehow.



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14 Nov 2019, 11:03 am

from the same place all beliefs come from: the minds of deluded people


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14 Nov 2019, 11:05 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I've seen that person known as "Divine." He/she reminds me somewhat of Dom Deluise, somehow.

like dom in drag. and this deluded person NEEDS for there to be something more than this sad little world.



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14 Nov 2019, 11:11 am

I believe, if there was a God, that this God would feel uncomfortable watching people go prostrate over Him/Her/It, bow down, self-flagellate themselves, and repeat His/Her/Its name over and over again. For hours on end.

He/She/It would probably find it more interesting if a person worshipping Him/Her/It had ideas of his/her own.



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14 Nov 2019, 11:21 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I believe, if there was a God, that this God would feel uncomfortable watching people go prostrate over Him/Her/It, bow down, self-flagellate themselves, and repeat His/Her/Its name over and over again. For hours on end.

He/She/It would probably find it more interesting if a person worshipping Him/Her/It had ideas of his/her own.

i believe god is more like a cosmic johnny appleseed, going from place to place sprouting more universes, and possibly other metaverses as well. he left surrogates in charge of things.



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14 Nov 2019, 11:41 am

I'm an atheist. I've arrived at this determination through thought.

Other people have a belief in God or other Supreme Beings. They've usually arrived at their determination through thought, too.



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14 Nov 2019, 11:44 am

^^^may your belief system be a pleasant thing for you. :flower:



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14 Nov 2019, 11:57 am

If you noticed, over time the concepts of god changes with the times and the culture. if there be a god then consider this, if all the universe is made from god, then it as well is a part of what god is, with this in mind, the ability of god to see its self as well as have self reflection comes from us. we are like its tiny brain cells thats interconnected on some level. as we evolve so does god.


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14 Nov 2019, 12:02 pm

^^^on that subject, the meaning of the old Hebrew term Yahweh is "ALL THAT IS."



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14 Nov 2019, 12:20 pm

Taken literally, that would mean that the original Israelites were Pantheists.....



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14 Nov 2019, 12:23 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Taken literally, that would mean that the original Israelites were Pantheists.....

or at least proto-Deists [the divinity of nature].



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14 Nov 2019, 12:57 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiqLtqMDrXQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-MXMO9euGU

As Complicated NoW As Folks Make
IT NoW as Far As WHere 'Did' God CoMe
From Considering that Quantum Mechanics
Suggests that Time And Distance And Space
And Even Matter iS an illusion Our Mind Creates
it Seems that Even a 'Doubting Thomas' According
to 'Thomas' in the Gnostic Gospels that didn't make the
Final or Even First Edits of the 'Big Black Book' Gets it Correct
in 'Verse 37' as Far as Looking Neither High as the Birds Will Precede
Us in Finding the Kingdom of God that Place Called Heaven or in the
Ocean as the Fish Will Precede Us That Way Yet the Best Way According
to Luke who Gets 'IT' included According to whoever wrote that Named Gospel
too clearly Bible Text MeSSages God Lives Within for those Who Seek and Find God and
Simply
Become
Naked
And Free Love
Again Just like
the Gospel of Thomas
Verse 37 as it LiVinG NoW explains
IT ALL so Simple so Born on Date now still as True in Light Now
The Light of Sunshine not the Artificial Light We Still Create
As DarKneSS iN Ignorance of the Light Within (God) Even As
Carl Sagan Agrees Cosmos Until itself Beautiful To Be i Am
You too and so much more to explore as close encounters grow farther away closer Yes No
the only way i Will possibly not Believe is if i do not exist NoW eTernAlly now moot point for Now
Love is Enough
For
Proof
God Is Love
Not all Folks
Visit 'This God'
Now and StaY ETernAlly Now
MorE Than Likely one problem
is they are Looking For God in
Thinner air than Wind (Spirit) Within;
MeH; i'll Take A 'Newer Lion King' Now and
Beyonce's Explanation of WHere God Comes From Now too;
Yes, the Bigger (EdiT) EXTended Cut With Just Another 'Voice' of 'James Earl Jones';
With a 'little
'Here i am'
to Go
ALong With
ALL The Word Salad DReSSinG too..;)


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14 Nov 2019, 1:25 pm

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move." - douglas adams



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14 Nov 2019, 7:46 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
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God exists outside of time.

So he was just there.

Atheists and theists alike run afoul of infinite regress. Stephen Hawkins responded to the question of "what came before the Big Bang?" with the answer that "that's like asking 'what is north of the North Pole?'". There is no north of the north pole. And whether you invoke a creator or not, either way, you come to a point were linear time (befores and afters) break down. At a certain point there can be no "before".


The south pole is north of the north pole.


Ya mean... If I go to the North Pole, and then go a step even farther north....then.... I vanish...and then magically reappear at the SOUTH Pole, in Antarctica?

Like going into a Tardis?

I never heard of that phenom! :D


Think! If one just simply keeps going North to the top most part or what we consider the top part. Look at a globe. Move your finger from the bottom to the top. Once one keeps going past the top with one's finger where does one go. South towards the south pole.


You go towards the South Pole. But you are not AT the South Pole.


That's what I meant to say. I didn't choose my words properly.

The point I was making is that one can go so far north that one goes south meant.