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Do you follow the Cult of the Virgin Mary?
Absolutely! 8%  8%  [ 2 ]
I think it has some merit. 8%  8%  [ 2 ]
I don't care / I don't know. 19%  19%  [ 5 ]
I have serious doubts. 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
Absolutely Not! 62%  62%  [ 16 ]
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29 Feb 2020, 6:11 pm

^um but the West actively puts into practice many values which help everyone, in every way, and understand but commit to the work involved in it.

That’s why God is the Lord of the East and the West, there’s something very exclusive and annoying that I have come to despise about the way ppl in M East etc often refer to the West as.. being completely immoral etc but then in reality u see that education , research, academic honesty, hard work , etc, is widespread, in places like UK, canada, etc, justice,
And if u go to the other areas

Injustice including tyrants taking over and committing massacres (eg India. With Kashmir to this day this week, Egypt, etc) laziness, extreme materialism and class system with little rights for servants etc, (u less servants and labourers are lucky enough to have good and honourable bosses) is more blatant there
Forced marriages, lack of public facilities lkke public libraries and community centres, dishonesty in matters like being able to commit huge sins like torture murder, etc, and getting away with it if u have enough money
South asia, middle east, for sure, there’s a lot of hypocrisy


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29 Feb 2020, 6:19 pm

There’s a saying in Islam that as long as a people take care of their own including the weak ones , God will help them even if they dont believe in God.

Comparing East and west overall imo you will find more injustice and oppression in east... they often dont even bother trying


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29 Feb 2020, 6:21 pm

Islam has a history of alms (charity). Muslims also don’t believe in charging interest on any momentary transaction.



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29 Feb 2020, 6:27 pm

Yeah but what is the point when many ppl do all the other stuff?

The purpose of obligatory charity (obligation obv depends on wealth level) is to make you pure and well intended overall to the needs of others..

not complacent and hypocritical and taking advantage of uneducated and
/or poor ppl etc.

Why do
workers coming from abroad poorer areas like South india, bangladesh, philippines, pakistan,

get so little rights that in Saudi they are working in the heat and also dont get to see their families
and often get bamboozled by their employers,
and most often living in tiny little spaces... like seven men in one tiny room.. thats one example. What does it matter if they give charity who cares, if you’re dehumanizing a whole segment of ppl and cheating them of basic rights
But they treat wealthier pll like gods


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29 Feb 2020, 6:34 pm

It’s not necessarily because of Islam....it’s because of human greed, avarice, the whole 9 yards. Some Islamic countries have corrupted Islam. Saudi Arabia is not a paragon of Islam.

Same as when Christian countries practiced, or practiced, similar policies. Many Christian countries have corrupted Christianity.



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29 Feb 2020, 6:39 pm

blooiejagwa wrote:
There’s a saying in Islam that as long as a people take care of their own including the weak ones , God will help them even if they dont believe in God.


I subscribe to the view that "the true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members".


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29 Feb 2020, 9:02 pm

BenderRodriguez wrote:
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There’s a saying in Islam that as long as a people take care of their own including the weak ones , God will help them even if they dont believe in God.


I subscribe to the view that "the true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members".


Agreed. I remember the quote as being the true measure of civilization. I no longer remember where I heard it.


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01 Mar 2020, 12:57 am

blooiejagwa wrote:
There’s a saying in Islam that as long as a people take care of their own including the weak ones , God will help them even if they dont believe in God.

Comparing East and west overall imo you will find more injustice and oppression in east... they often dont even bother trying



SMiLes; Just Anecdotal really from my Interactions with the Individuals in the Countries; they surely
All Have Lots of Problems with the Politics of their Countries; Some Desperately wanting to come to the
United States for Freedom. I surely agree with You here; and they would too, as far as i can see on these issues.
Albeit, they are all Female; and don't get the Same Benefits out of their Cultures as the Males do; a Major Issue
i hear about too...:)

I surely would not want to Live where there is not the Freedom We Enjoy here; the Freedom For Everyone; the
Freedom i do hope we manage to not take for Granted and Keep..:)


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01 Mar 2020, 1:46 pm

blazingstar wrote:
BenderRodriguez wrote:
blooiejagwa wrote:
There’s a saying in Islam that as long as a people take care of their own including the weak ones , God will help them even if they dont believe in God.


I subscribe to the view that "the true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members".


Agreed. I remember the quote as being the true measure of civilization. I no longer remember where I heard it.


Sorry Im not sure I understand what you mean by I remember it as being but If its what Im guessing..

The same view can be stated in different cultures. By diff ppl.
Same truth applies.

The saying Im referring to is from centuries ago. Its quoted in books from centuries ago from diff countries.
Rumi, Ghazali, among others, directly quoted, paraphrased, and referred to it.


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01 Mar 2020, 1:51 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
It’s not necessarily because of Islam....it’s because of human greed, avarice, the whole 9 yards. Some Islamic countries have corrupted Islam. Saudi Arabia is not a paragon of Islam.

Same as when Christian countries practiced, or practiced, similar policies. Many Christian countries have corrupted Christianity.


Well it makes me extremely frustrated to think about how on the one hand you've got a ton of scholars sitting around debating whether the length of a garment should be at the calf or ankle...
but on the other you actually couldn't care less about real people though u have all the resources n money to increase public education and repair your unjust system..

you'd rather build malls.


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01 Mar 2020, 4:17 pm

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NPC is a gaming term that's made its way into non-gaming parlance. It stands for "non-player character" and in this context it's a derogatory term for someone who only repeats what they've been told to say without any thoughts of their own.

Thank you! Wow, it certainly is derogatory.



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01 Mar 2020, 10:53 pm

aghogday wrote:
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aghogday wrote:
blooiejagwa wrote:
When you capitalize some but not all words,but often, it’s difficult for me to keep upwith what you were saying....


i apologize;
but it is my Nature;
it's hard for most
People to keep up with
me in Real Life when i speak too;
i find Dance a More Effective Language to Speak as far as reciprocal Communication
non-Verbal Returned as well; And My Method of Stimming is truly Super Cool and Art;
12,793 Miles of Public Dance in 78 Months; Truly a World Record Never Documented at least before.

The 7.8 Million Words
of Free Verse Poetic Words a bit
more of a complicated Special Interest for Folks to Comprehend;
but that is the Nature of Original Art that Lasts; Deeper than the Shallows of Before..:)

Smiles; anyway; thanks for the Social Reciprocal Communication; any Feed back here is nice..:)


I do not mean to be mean. But your posts are virtually unreadable because of the way you format them. I have pretty good reading comprehension, but I basically have no idea of what you are saying 99% of the time. You might as well be writing in Esperanto.


i find this Fascinating; People from the United States can't understand it; but on the other Hand,
People From the Middle East and India Understand every word; Obviously there is something Missing here.

(the East it appears at least)

Trust me no offense; i can't count the number of times that folks in other Countries
Call it Profound Genius; but i'm surely not going to water it down; as it isJust just me.


Just seems a waste cranking out thousands of words that do not really say anything and most people are never going to read. I think perhaps those folks calling it profound genius are pulling your leg. Their version of "cool story bro".



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02 Mar 2020, 1:38 am

EzraS wrote:
aghogday wrote:
EzraS wrote:
aghogday wrote:
blooiejagwa wrote:
When you capitalize some but not all words,but often, it’s difficult for me to keep upwith what you were saying....


i apologize;
but it is my Nature;
it's hard for most
People to keep up with
me in Real Life when i speak too;
i find Dance a More Effective Language to Speak as far as reciprocal Communication
non-Verbal Returned as well; And My Method of Stimming is truly Super Cool and Art;
12,793 Miles of Public Dance in 78 Months; Truly a World Record Never Documented at least before.

The 7.8 Million Words
of Free Verse Poetic Words a bit
more of a complicated Special Interest for Folks to Comprehend;
but that is the Nature of Original Art that Lasts; Deeper than the Shallows of Before..:)

Smiles; anyway; thanks for the Social Reciprocal Communication; any Feed back here is nice..:)


I do not mean to be mean. But your posts are virtually unreadable because of the way you format them. I have pretty good reading comprehension, but I basically have no idea of what you are saying 99% of the time. You might as well be writing in Esperanto.


i find this Fascinating; People from the United States can't understand it; but on the other Hand,
People From the Middle East and India Understand every word; Obviously there is something Missing here.

(the East it appears at least)

Trust me no offense; i can't count the number of times that folks in other Countries
Call it Profound Genius; but i'm surely not going to water it down; as it isJust just me.


Just seems a waste cranking out thousands of words that do not really say anything and most people are never going to read. I think perhaps those folks calling it profound genius are pulling your leg. Their version of "cool story bro".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifCWN5pJGIE

i don't hang around people who lie;

Not my style;

Just noting the Facts; and sure, you can check my Blogs out
if You like, and See the Tally of Hundreds of Thousands of Views;
Just in One of Seven Different ones; that doesn't lie either...

Never the less, i write for the Fun of it; yes, just for the fun of it.

You can also check out around 1300 comments from a Viral
Video of My Public Dance Documented as well, from one of the Video Voyeurs who follow me around
From my Metro Community that assesses me as Hero and Legend; etc. etc. etc... in 12,818 Miles of Public Dance
now in 78 Months; and sure, a few 'Stuck in the Mud Folks' get a bit afraid of a 240 Pound Dude Dancing in Public too;
There are Lovers and Haters in life; nothing new; God Yes, Open minded folks; and very closed minded folks too.
Very rarely do the closed minded folks Understand much of what i do; to be expected as Science Shows now too.

Never the Less; not unlike Forrest Gump; i do that Just for Fun too.

Dude; i'm married to a Beautiful Woman; and am Financially Independent;

That's really Enough Blessing For me;

The Rest of it is Just Icing on the Cake other folks have offered up to me;

i surely Never Asked for any of it;

As far as anyone pulling my Leg; considering that i still Leg Press 1520 American Pounds
at 90 Degrees, for 8 Reps; and have the YouTube Video Proof of 1340 American Pounds at 90 Degrees
for 12 Reps, in a duration of a Very Slow 100 Seconds of Effort; not likely anyone, you know at least,
could Pull my Leg; literally as such of course.

i don't leave home without the Proof;

Just because you don't understand me; does not mean that other folks don't get it; 'the World' is a much bigger place.

Oh, there is one other thing; and lots of other stuff; but let's conserve space; over 2000 Photos of Beautiful Women
That Appreciate the Dance of me Very Much that are also Documented too smiling ear to ear with me as well;
i suppose some folks think that the Dance is A waste of time too; but nah; it's not.

Here is just Two Links below for the Tip of the Iceberg at close to 60 Years-Old.

Come back and tell me what you accomplish in life when you get to my age;

i'll Still be Dancing...
And Writing...
Just for Fun...

With or without any external rewards at all; nothing i do is a waste of time; the Journey is the Bliss all the way, NOW.

In case, you aren't familiar With the Phrase 'Autotelic Flow'; in other Words, the Kingdom of Heaven Within, NOW;
That is Generated and Mastered by Relative Free Will; and tons of practice to keep the Heaven Journey REAL NOW.

THREE WORDS:

Life is Good;
And sure, 2000 Plus
More Photos Just like that
included in my 7.8 Million Word Epic Free Verse Poem accomplished
in 78 Months; And yes, this too; Smiles; just for 'the Record Book' even more..;)

Just Showing You a tiny bit of what is Humanly Possible; that most folks can't fathom in Life for real.

It is inspires most folks i meet in 'real life', who are confident in themselves; and generally speaking really Happy.

But of course, Just one Photo speaks more than all the Words ever written in recorded History too; Just Human Bliss;

Yes by God; Heaven on a Young Woman's Face; the Joy 'one' Brings to Her AND OTHERS without a Word; Just Dance.

Smiles; i write to rest my Feet; Smiles; i come here to rest my Happiness; hehe; Can't afford to get too Naturally High..;)

Oh, one other Thing; Free Flowing Autotelic Meditative Writing and Dancing is assessed by Science as Literally a Fountain
of Youth too; this all in synergy allows me to achieve more and more of my Human Potential as No one can keep up
with me at the Dance Hall or the Military Gym i work-out at; that's almost hard for me to believe; but not impossible,
considering i both do it; and record the case-evidence study as i go; others have done this too; but technology allows
me to do that more too; as far as case-evidence study continues to accumulate and grow....

This ain't no Myth; This ain't No Cult; Human Potential Far Exceeds anything for Real written in Old Sacred Texts now.

In other Words, to top it all off; this is also on topic too.

And as far as the 'Cult of the Virgin Mary' goes; every Woman should know/believe her Son Will do more than me too...

But it will probably take close to the Faith of A Mother in A Son; as my Mother Had in me; all this still deserves a song;

But Her Name is Helen; Actors Change; Human Archetypes remain.

To Be Crystal Clear; my Name is Just Frederick; in German, it Means Peaceful Ruler..;)

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02 Mar 2020, 6:46 pm

8O
I think bcuz of me initially... but this thread took an unexpected turn.

Sorry Fnord


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02 Mar 2020, 6:59 pm

Posts from obsessed members of religious sects about their beliefs was something I never anticipated as a newcomer to Wrong Planet. Fortunately the exposures have been relatively few but they still seem out of place to me. I can understand that people enjoy discussing social and cultural and political impacts of religious sects here, but when it crosses over into fervent worship-type posts, prosetylising and proclaiming, it makes me feel as if I am on another kind of wrong planet. Personally it feels to me like a serious WP boundary is breeched by that behaviour and I can't persuade myself that Alex ever intended the forum to be used in that way.

There are plenty of forums for religious people of all persuasions online, and I would prefer that WP stays secular and members wanting to share their fervent worship for religious icons found somewhere more appropriate to that goal than WP.