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01 May 2020, 4:25 pm

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Maybe he'd be classified as somewhat socially conservative and largely fiscally liberal.

Neither of those terms are meaningful at all. It's kind of dumb to call crony-capitalist military spending "fiscally liberal". "social conservative" is also dumb because he obviously cares nothing for religion or tradition. His use of irrational nativist fear-mongering is proto-fascist. It's a form of scape-goating used to deflect blame away from the wealthy ruling class. Capitalism without government intervention always trends towards ever greater inequality. Western economists understood this at one time, but decided for forget sometime around 1975. Now this amnesia is finally catching up with us... some 55 years later. But rather than talk about what's really happening the right is more comfortable blaming minorities and immigrants.



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01 May 2020, 4:27 pm

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Trump is more of a nationalist than a traditional conservative but he is not a liberal by any stretch,so I would call him a conservative.

He doesn't seem want to conserve much.

He seems to want to tear everything down and remake it ....

GLORIOUSLY, GREATLY, BIGLY, MUCH BETTER, FANTASTICALLY, WONDERFULLY, and YUGELY ....

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He hasn't remade anything. All he does is talk. That's all he's ever done. That and tax cuts for the rich.



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01 May 2020, 4:42 pm

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Western economists understood this at one time, but decided for forget sometime around 1975. Now this amnesia is finally catching up with us... some 55 years later.


I don't know much about it, but I read from some other posts that Western Europe is more socialist than the US.



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01 May 2020, 4:44 pm

NoClearMind53 wrote:
He hasn't remade anything. All he does is talk. That's all he's ever done. That and tax cuts for the rich.


Well, he moved the US embasy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. I am not saying whether its good or bad (thats a different question) but this is an example where he has done something rather than just talk.

As far as building the wall, he was "trying" to "do" something with it too -- but he was stopped every time. So its not about him being "just a talker" but rather about the rest of the government stopping him.



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01 May 2020, 4:51 pm

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The only thing you can say with confidence is that he is authoritarian.


Well, reopening the country doesn't sound very authoritarian. An authoritarian person would be the one to keep the country closed for as long as possible, just to show his power.

Now, you might say that it is a terrible decision, which is probably true. But just the fact that decision is bad, doesn't mean that it is authoritarian. There are plenty of ways of making a bad decision without being authoritarian.

The only aspect where it "is" authoritarian, would be authoritarian over the state governors. But that is a rather specific form of being authoritarian. Its like giving "more" freedom to people at the expense of giving "less" freedom to state governors. Once again, too much freedom might be a bad thing, but don't misuse the name on how you call it.



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03 May 2020, 11:17 pm

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NoClearMind53 wrote:
He hasn't remade anything. All he does is talk. That's all he's ever done. That and tax cuts for the rich.


Well, he moved the US embasy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. I am not saying whether its good or bad (thats a different question) but this is an example where he has done something rather than just talk.

As far as building the wall, he was "trying" to "do" something with it too -- but he was stopped every time. So its not about him being "just a talker" but rather about the rest of the government stopping him.


Be skeptical on the use of the words "always", "never", "all", "none", "every", etc. when referring to the actions of a person. Not possible.


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03 May 2020, 11:37 pm

ALL for GOPers and the back of the hand for the rest of us has ALWAYS been what the GOP is ALL about.



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04 May 2020, 12:01 am

Why would one feel that building a wall, and making Mexico pay for it is a good thing?

Why would one think that moving the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem is a good thing.

Hitler “did things,” and “put his money where his mouth was”— but it would have been better had he did nothing, and kept his mouth shut.



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04 May 2020, 12:25 am

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Why would one feel that building a wall, and making Mexico pay for it is a good thing?

Why would one think that moving the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem is a good thing.

Hitler “did things,” and “put his money where his mouth was”— but it would have been better had he did nothing, and kept his mouth shut.


I didn't say it was good (and I am not saying its bad either). I simply noticed that someone said "he doesn't do anything other than talk" -- and I see that this statement is "factually" not true (regardless of whether its good or bad). So I pointed it out.



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04 May 2020, 12:34 am

speaking of hitler-
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folks, game over- fascism won and is the regime now. snopes said this is TRUE. gawd, how far we've fallen.



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04 May 2020, 7:43 am

Magna wrote:
QFT wrote:
NoClearMind53 wrote:
He hasn't remade anything. All he does is talk. That's all he's ever done. That and tax cuts for the rich.


Well, he moved the US embasy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. I am not saying whether its good or bad (thats a different question) but this is an example where he has done something rather than just talk.

As far as building the wall, he was "trying" to "do" something with it too -- but he was stopped every time. So its not about him being "just a talker" but rather about the rest of the government stopping him.


Be skeptical on the use of the words "always", "never", "all", "none", "every", etc. when referring to the actions of a person. Not possible.

Right, Universal truth is likely always wrong for everything ... except ...

for human made concepts like math, protons and neutrons


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04 May 2020, 11:38 am

Trumpty Dumpty is only concerned about 2 items:

1. How much “wealth” he can acquire

And

2. Who he can f!ck over and bamboozle in order to obtain said “wealth”

In short: he’s just as bad as any other politician (with the possible exception of Eisenhower and Teddy Roosevelt) over the last 150 years.


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04 May 2020, 11:59 am

Yes, it is all about enhancing his wealth. The lines between me and you are quite clear when he does stuff.



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04 May 2020, 3:52 pm

Who cares? He's an idiot and I hope the US has the good sense to wave goodbye to him at the end of the year.



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04 May 2020, 9:03 pm

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Who cares? He's an idiot and I hope the US has the good sense to wave goodbye to him at the end of the year.


It seems like the Democrats are dedicated to undermining their chances of winning.

Right now America's best hope is that Trump and Biden both catch coronavirus, are briefly mourned and both parties have to come up with new candidates.


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05 May 2020, 4:31 am

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Who cares? He's an idiot and I hope the US has the good sense to wave goodbye to him at the end of the year.


It seems like the Democrats are dedicated to undermining their chances of winning.

Right now America's best hope is that Trump and Biden both catch coronavirus, are briefly mourned and both parties have to come up with new candidates.


If, for whatever reason, both parties had to come up with the 2nd choice for Pres, who would it actually be on the Reps side?