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It probably comes down to how the different groups are acting and how they respond to the police: If a group is acting peacefully, then there won't be a problem. If the group is hostile to the police, or acting in a hostile\destructive manner, then the police will react accordingly.

Admittedly I haven't seen right wingers damaging public property but they come armed to the teeth at rallies. Certainly intimidating to normal folk.

I have seen videos and personal stories where people are at protests and they were not even destroying anything and they were just standing there when they get attacked with tear gas or get shot with a rubber bullet..

It would also help deter those seeking to cause trouble through using those with the guns as a "shield" to hide behind due to the possibilty of the shield turning on them.

Watch the US civil rights march videos, there are some doozies of police happily piling into women and children with trudgeons back in the 1960s.

I have seen videos and personal stories where people are at protests and they were not even destroying anything and they were just standing there when they get attacked with tear gas or get shot with a rubber bullet.

WTF is wrong with the police shooting at innocent people who are just standing there? This was going on before Trump started sending out troops.

Who are the "those" you are referring to? I assume it's the recent appearance of the black militia you are talking about those hiding behind?

Similarly, it is (was?) only a relatively small number of people involved in the attack on the couorthouse in Portland(?), but through the lack of effort by the innocent protesters to stop this, the entire protest is then associated with these actions.

And because those with the power ($) to fix it (Billionaires and the politicians they own) won't do it, there's going to be an implosion. Those powers will be happy to prod you all into fighting amongst yourselves, but the best possible outcome would be is if all poor and working class people put politics & race and other divisive nonsense aside and banded together to eat the rich. Maybe not literally lol but tear down their gates and ivory towers, use whatever force is necessary to redistribute their ill gotten gains. Literally everyone working together as one bug Robin Hood movement where the 1% either volunteer their vast wealth as reparations to society, or spend the rest of their lives on the run never again having a comfortable night's sleep.

But what's more likely is poor people fighting poor people for scraps while the 1% carry on unscathed because people are stupid.

The U.S. is great at propaganda. We're indoctrinated from an early age that all it takes to succeed is "hard work," and, if you're poor, it's obviously because you're stupid/lazy. And the natural human tendency to want to feel superior to others doesn't help.

I'm poor. In a way, I almost feel bad for the middle class. At least I understand I'm a cog in a great machine and no one cares if I live or die. It's the people who think they're untouchable because they have "MarKetAble SkIllS" that are going to be completely poleaxed when they learn that the 1% don't care about them either.

The rich didn't get that way because they're nice. The rich got their wealth by exploiting labor, and they don't want to pay engineers and plumbers their fair share any more than they want to pay janitors and burger flippers. Capitalism doesn't have any answers for a post-job world, and this is only going to get worse before it gets better.

I believe the looting is being done by people who are not part of the protest and they are just using it to do it. It's also been proven in the media as well. People who were arrested for looting and trashing buildings were not from the area.

Even minority businesses have been victims of their business being destroyed.

This is one of the things I am quiet about on social media so I don't get myself cancelled and this is also why I do not say what my usernames are on other places.

Members of Black Lives Matter held a solidarity rally on Monday night with the more than 100 individuals who were arrested after a night of looting and unrest in Chicago.

The rally was held at the South Loop police station where organizers say those individuals are currently being held in custody.

“I don’t care if someone decides to loot a Gucci or a Macy’s or a Nike store, because that makes sure that person eats,” Ariel Atkins, a BLM organizer, said.

What you call "identity politics" is nothing more than a matter of necessity. People of color, gay people, trans people, disabled people, whoever you want, DO have a different experience to more privileged groups, and acknowledging it as such is necessary for improving people's lives. And "political correctness"? What are you talking about? Sorry you can't openly say slurs I guess.

The reason why so-called "socially conservative views" are marginalized is because few can deny any longer that they're bigoted and harmful. Campaigning against LGBT rights, demonizing immigrants, hand-waving away racism as anything besides racism, are undeniably harmful. That is what "socially conservative" views are. Funny how you and the op are only talking about them in the abstract. I'm not going to entertain bigoted ideas out of politeness.



Maybe you should find another justification for your reactionary ideology than a book written by a socialist who fought with anarchists in Spain.

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Racist views in that time period were considered “right wing”. Conservatism was being for more negative consequences for bad behavior be it lazyness whining, excuse making, and criminality. Conservatism at the time was heavily conflated with support of the ongoing Vietnam War effort, patriotic symbolism, pro military etc. Conservatism at the time also meant things like thinking too much government deficits is a bad thing. Some racists hid behind conservatism most notably in opposing judicially ordered school busing and other government mandated integration.

Nowadays conservatism is conflated with Trumpism and the alt right. “Deficit Hawk“ ehh what, can you visit them in zoos with rare animal collections?. This is the fault of those Trump supporters whom made him a cult of personality. A cult who is centered around destroying things and owning the libs. The old fashioned conservatives have been put out to pasture just as ingloriously as the regressive left is attempting to do to non purists. It is also the fault of the conservatives who know this as bad but just cannot pass up the opportunity to get some policies they want implemented.

Yes it is understandable and inevitable that people would be radicalized, want to destroy and eliminate any element of conservative thought because conservative thought equals racist thought because that is the thought most seen.

And it sure looks like at some point in the near future those Trumpian conservatives are going to be owned in ways they can’t even imagine. The left are younger and understand how to use technology better and they are masters at altering language for their purposes in ways the makes most attempts at resisting look stupid and bigoted.

That does not make it right. It makes it compounding the problems. It makes it inevitable that those celebrating the seemingly inevitable owning of conservatism will be owned themselves and faster then they think. Final result everybody loses.