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The problem with the Republican party is not that they are blunt (or are you saying Democratic politicians like Sander is not blunt?), it is because they don't know how to govern.
I wasn't going to bite, but...weren't Reagan and Trump elected precisely because Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama were perceived as "unable to govern" by a majority of the electorate? Carter is seen by many to be among the least competent President at governing ever, in fact.
As opposed to Reagan, whom left-leaning Wikipedia describes as "touting a strong economic recovery from the 1970s stagflation and the 1981–82 recession, as well as the widespread perception that his presidency had overseen a revival of national confidence and prestige"
Some "failure at governing"...Reagan did such a bad job that he was re-elected in one of the greatest landslides ever. And Trump, well we shall see won't we.
Both Reagan and Trump improved the economy's performance. Well, before "COVID" kicked in, anyways.
Also, I consider the biggest failure to govern getting us involved in a major war. Aren't Democrats largely responsible for getting us mired in World War 1, World War 2, Korea and Vietnam?
Stop worrying about the next Twitter storm or who called whom what
If you say so, boss 
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vermontsavant wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Vermont...
Yes, or no.
Have you stopped beating your wife?
Thats the kinda question you're asking here.
Yes, or no.
Have you stopped beating your wife?
Thats the kinda question you're asking here.
How so,I appreciate the humor though.
What are your real thoughts on the difference between parties.How does that relate as to whether one bests his wife joking or not.I get your joke but not it's relation to the post.
"Still beating your wife" is an old expression for asking a question that cant be answered without incriminating yourself. A rhetorical question. "Have you stopped selling crack to school children?" You cant answer with "yes" because that implies that you used to do that, and you can say "no" because that implies that you still do it.
you're asking us if one party's knavery is the same as the other's. Or if they different kinds of knavery. So it assumes that both have knavery, so its kind of an inane leading question.
My thoughts on the current election?
My thoughts are that in the short run parties are irrelevent because the current POTUS is a criminal who dumps upon conservative GOP values even more than he dumps on progressive values. So its the duty of voters of both parties to vote him out. And the Dems picked the right guy, a bland centrist, that educated voters of both parties can follow to that end.Once we get the crises solved then we talk about political parties again.
But in the longer run?
In the short run we need a bland centrist ...after the Trump rollercoaster ride. But in the longer run the party system itself may re shape itself radically.
The GOP was already floundering and foundering before Trump, and basically doesnt even exist anymore except as a cult built around Trump. The Dems are polarized within themselves between the center left and the far left. So both parties seemed to be headed for the intensive care ward, and neither may live much longer.
So in the short we cant be radical. But in the long run we obviously need SOME kind of radical realignment. Maybe to muliple parties.
22 Aug 2020, 12:43 pm
naturalplastic wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Vermont...
Yes, or no.
Have you stopped beating your wife?
Thats the kinda question you're asking here.
Yes, or no.
Have you stopped beating your wife?
Thats the kinda question you're asking here.
How so,I appreciate the humor though.
What are your real thoughts on the difference between parties.How does that relate as to whether one bests his wife joking or not.I get your joke but not it's relation to the post.
"Still beating your wife" is an old expression for asking a question that cant be answered without incriminating yourself. A rhetorical question. "Have you stopped selling crack to school children?" You cant answer with "yes" because that implies that you used to do that, and you can say "no" because that implies that you still do it.
you're asking us if one party's knavery is the same as the other's. Or if they different kinds of knavery. So it assumes that both have knavery, so its kind of an inane leading question.
My thoughts on the current election?
My thoughts are that in the short run parties are irrelevent because the current POTUS is a criminal who dumps upon conservative GOP values even more than he dumps on progressive values. So its the duty of voters of both parties to vote him out. And the Dems picked the right guy, a bland centrist, that educated voters of both parties can follow to that end.Once we get the crises solved then we talk about political parties again.
But in the longer run?
In the short run we need a bland centrist ...after the Trump rollercoaster ride. But in the longer run the party system itself may re shape itself radically.
The GOP was already floundering and foundering before Trump, and basically doesnt even exist anymore except as a cult built around Trump. The Dems are polarized within themselves between the center left and the far left. So both parties seemed to be headed for the intensive care ward, and neither may live much longer.
So in the short we cant be radical. But in the long run we obviously need SOME kind of radical realignment. Maybe to muliple parties.
22 Aug 2020, 12:44 pm
22 Aug 2020, 12:47 pm
vermontsavant wrote:
aghogday wrote:
It's So true, Conservative that isn't
Necessarily Republican; True OR Democrat;
There are Many Liberal and Conservative
Leaning Folks in Both So-Called Parties.
But Indeed, Republicans
Are Telling the Truth;
With No Restraint Now;
All is Becoming Revealed;
That they Simply Do not
Care About Whether Other Humans
Live or Die; So How Will We Measure This?
4 Percent of the World's Population;
With 25 Percent or So of Covid-19 Deaths;
Easy to Remedy With Leaders Who Care Enough
to Employ Science; as Other Countries Have to Reduce the
Numbers of Misery, Suffering, Death; and Ongoing Disease in REAL NUMBERS.
i'm not worried about
What Happened in the
Past; i wanna see RESULTS NOW;
BY DECEMBER, 25 Days before Christmas:
Science, Already Shows 70,000 Lives
Will be Saved if Americans Wears Masks;
Trump and His Followers, Just Yesterday
in a Small Room Campaign Rally, Refused
to Social Distance, Or Wear Masks; That Is NOTHING
More than Blatant Ignorance and Lack of Human Caring for Others.
BIDEN MAKES IT CLEAR he will MAKE A Mandate for A National
Mask Wearing Policy that ACTUALLY SAVES LIVES; meanwhile, during
the Pandemic, Trump And His Administration work 'Feverishly' to Remove
Health Care During A Pandemic; WHAT the only Man worth Salt of Soul in the
Republican Party did before he died; a REAL WAR AND HUMAN HERO; John McCain,
Prevented the Republican Party As Whole From Inflicting the Misery and Suffering
and Deaths that would have come from what they set out to do, Two years ago,
Removing Health Care from the Arms of 20 Million Americans, Then; Yes
This is the
Difference Between
Republicans and Democrats
Now as far as empirical Knowledge
of the Effective Policies They Bring in
Truth; The Republicans Policies are INHUMANE;
IF IT WERE NOT FOR MCAIN, my Sister might not have
Health Care Now; i take this very seriously; it is a life
or death potential Policy for Other Human Beings;
They wanna mess with the Potential Life or Death
of My Sister; indeed those who support that will hear from me;
AND THEY ARE NO LONGER HIDING THIS TRUTH OF DARK.
KUDOS; they Just signed their Pact and Exit of Power with 'the Devil' at the top
as soon they go the same way they came; nowhere at all close to Human Soul and soon out of 'Power'.
That's Good News; it means this Country is Still Human enough to remove policies from Leaders, INHUMANE.
Necessarily Republican; True OR Democrat;
There are Many Liberal and Conservative
Leaning Folks in Both So-Called Parties.
But Indeed, Republicans
Are Telling the Truth;
With No Restraint Now;
All is Becoming Revealed;
That they Simply Do not
Care About Whether Other Humans
Live or Die; So How Will We Measure This?
4 Percent of the World's Population;
With 25 Percent or So of Covid-19 Deaths;
Easy to Remedy With Leaders Who Care Enough
to Employ Science; as Other Countries Have to Reduce the
Numbers of Misery, Suffering, Death; and Ongoing Disease in REAL NUMBERS.
i'm not worried about
What Happened in the
Past; i wanna see RESULTS NOW;
BY DECEMBER, 25 Days before Christmas:
Science, Already Shows 70,000 Lives
Will be Saved if Americans Wears Masks;
Trump and His Followers, Just Yesterday
in a Small Room Campaign Rally, Refused
to Social Distance, Or Wear Masks; That Is NOTHING
More than Blatant Ignorance and Lack of Human Caring for Others.
BIDEN MAKES IT CLEAR he will MAKE A Mandate for A National
Mask Wearing Policy that ACTUALLY SAVES LIVES; meanwhile, during
the Pandemic, Trump And His Administration work 'Feverishly' to Remove
Health Care During A Pandemic; WHAT the only Man worth Salt of Soul in the
Republican Party did before he died; a REAL WAR AND HUMAN HERO; John McCain,
Prevented the Republican Party As Whole From Inflicting the Misery and Suffering
and Deaths that would have come from what they set out to do, Two years ago,
Removing Health Care from the Arms of 20 Million Americans, Then; Yes
This is the
Difference Between
Republicans and Democrats
Now as far as empirical Knowledge
of the Effective Policies They Bring in
Truth; The Republicans Policies are INHUMANE;
IF IT WERE NOT FOR MCAIN, my Sister might not have
Health Care Now; i take this very seriously; it is a life
or death potential Policy for Other Human Beings;
They wanna mess with the Potential Life or Death
of My Sister; indeed those who support that will hear from me;
AND THEY ARE NO LONGER HIDING THIS TRUTH OF DARK.
KUDOS; they Just signed their Pact and Exit of Power with 'the Devil' at the top
as soon they go the same way they came; nowhere at all close to Human Soul and soon out of 'Power'.
That's Good News; it means this Country is Still Human enough to remove policies from Leaders, INHUMANE.
Unlike most you got the gist of the post.
Thanks Ben..
