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Which Religion Should Be The National Religion?
Animism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Atheism 24%  24%  [ 8 ]
Buddhism 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
Christianity 15%  15%  [ 5 ]
Confucianism 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
Druidism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Gnosticism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Hinduism 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
Islam 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
Jainism 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
Judaism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Mormonism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Paganism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Scientology 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
Shamanism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Shintoism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Sikhism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Taoism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Zoroastrianism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Other: ________________ (Please elaborate). 39%  39%  [ 13 ]
Total votes : 33

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01 Sep 2020, 10:40 pm

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No religion that isn't either of above = you believe God exists but you don't care what He revealed?
Faith and religion are not the same thing.  Religion is the expression of faith through ritual acts, and is a human invention, which is what makes religion so pointless.  Faith is a relationship with G^D (only) through Jesus (only), empowered by the Holy Spirit (only).

Science flies you to the Moon, Religion flies you into buildings, and Faith flies you to Heaven.


I think you need a religion to know what to believe. No one would know anything about Jesus or the Holy Spirit without the Christian religion except in rare circumstances where it was supernaturally revealed to them (like Saint Paul). I think other people could have faith in a higher power without religion by following their conscience and obeying the natural law but I think the majority would base their faith on whatever feels right to them and be led astray.



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01 Sep 2020, 10:45 pm

I picked atheism, of course. Too much bulls**t in any religion.



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01 Sep 2020, 11:40 pm

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"double predestination" - no wonder people like pat robertson believe pofolk are predestined to permanently be out of god's favor, and by extension, to be condemned. he has spoken of this more than one in his broadcasts, so it wasn't a slip of the tongue or anything like that.


With Pat Robertson, I'd suspect the Godless prosperity gospel plays a big part in his damning poor people to Hell.


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02 Sep 2020, 12:00 am

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"double predestination" - no wonder people like pat robertson believe pofolk are predestined to permanently be out of god's favor, and by extension, to be condemned. he has spoken of this more than one in his broadcasts, so it wasn't a slip of the tongue or anything like that.


With Pat Robertson, I'd suspect the Godless prosperity gospel plays a big part in his damning poor people to Hell.

i thought it was an outgrowth of calvinism.



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02 Sep 2020, 1:04 am

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"double predestination" - no wonder people like pat robertson believe pofolk are predestined to permanently be out of god's favor, and by extension, to be condemned. he has spoken of this more than one in his broadcasts, so it wasn't a slip of the tongue or anything like that.


With Pat Robertson, I'd suspect the Godless prosperity gospel plays a big part in his damning poor people to Hell.

i thought it was an outgrowth of calvinism.


I suspect there's a connection. Or at least a misinterpretation of Calvinism.


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02 Sep 2020, 1:24 am

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"double predestination" - no wonder people like pat robertson believe pofolk are predestined to permanently be out of god's favor, and by extension, to be condemned. he has spoken of this more than one in his broadcasts, so it wasn't a slip of the tongue or anything like that.


With Pat Robertson, I'd suspect the Godless prosperity gospel plays a big part in his damning poor people to Hell.

i thought it was an outgrowth of calvinism.


I suspect there's a connection. Or at least a misinterpretation of Calvinism.

i'd say the bible is one of the more [all too often willfully] misinterpreted books in human history.



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02 Sep 2020, 1:55 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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"double predestination" - no wonder people like pat robertson believe pofolk are predestined to permanently be out of god's favor, and by extension, to be condemned. he has spoken of this more than one in his broadcasts, so it wasn't a slip of the tongue or anything like that.


With Pat Robertson, I'd suspect the Godless prosperity gospel plays a big part in his damning poor people to Hell.

i thought it was an outgrowth of calvinism.


I suspect there's a connection. Or at least a misinterpretation of Calvinism.

Hasn't Calvinism been pretty much debunked even by fundamentalists.

You never answered my question from the other day.Your quite liberal to be a lutheran it seems or is the lutheran church more liberal today .


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02 Sep 2020, 10:13 pm

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"double predestination" - no wonder people like pat robertson believe pofolk are predestined to permanently be out of god's favor, and by extension, to be condemned. he has spoken of this more than one in his broadcasts, so it wasn't a slip of the tongue or anything like that.


With Pat Robertson, I'd suspect the Godless prosperity gospel plays a big part in his damning poor people to Hell.

i thought it was an outgrowth of calvinism.


I suspect there's a connection. Or at least a misinterpretation of Calvinism.

Hasn't Calvinism been pretty much debunked even by fundamentalists.

You never answered my question from the other day.Your quite liberal to be a lutheran it seems or is the lutheran church more liberal today .


Lutherans can be liberal or conservative. My own Lutheran Church Missouri Synod tends to be conservative while the Evangelical Lutheran Church In America tends to be more liberal, but individual members can go either way.
Whether Calvinism has been debunked or not is a matter of opinion. Reformed and Presbyterian churches, which are Calvinistic in doctrine, would beg to differ. Most fundamentalists and evangelicals tend to be Arminian in doctrine, which teaches human beings cooperate in their own salvation by choosing to believe. In fact, this doctrinal stance has always been rejected by Lutherans and Calvinists, whom for the most part are the doctrinal basis of mainline denominations today.


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02 Sep 2020, 10:14 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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"double predestination" - no wonder people like pat robertson believe pofolk are predestined to permanently be out of god's favor, and by extension, to be condemned. he has spoken of this more than one in his broadcasts, so it wasn't a slip of the tongue or anything like that.


With Pat Robertson, I'd suspect the Godless prosperity gospel plays a big part in his damning poor people to Hell.

i thought it was an outgrowth of calvinism.


I suspect there's a connection. Or at least a misinterpretation of Calvinism.

i'd say the bible is one of the more [all too often willfully] misinterpreted books in human history.


No doubt of that.


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02 Sep 2020, 10:29 pm

Everyone should be un-baptized with a hair dryer.


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02 Sep 2020, 10:40 pm

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Everyone should be un-baptized with a hair dryer.


:lol: :lol: :lol:


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02 Sep 2020, 11:19 pm

anybody ever run into a cathtist?



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03 Sep 2020, 12:09 am

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anybody ever run into a cathtist?


That's nearly everyone in Texas.


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anybody ever run into a cathtist?


That's nearly everyone in Texas.

why is this?



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03 Sep 2020, 10:45 am

I picked atheistm but meant secularism.

There shouldn't be a state religion.

No church should be tax exempt or above the law. However, the vast majority of religions are currently peaceful enough that in their true form they should be legal.

No murder cults allowed, though and no brainwashing people to kill themselves to reach the afterlife.


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03 Sep 2020, 11:12 am

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anybody ever run into a cathtist?
No, but I've run into quite a few MethoCaHolics in Michigan.