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30 Aug 2020, 5:46 am

The fruits of diversity. I suspect this isn't the final curtain though, America as we know it might have another decade yet. But the direction and final destination is obvious to many more people now. I no longer look like a sandwich board wearing lunatic when I said some years ago that civil war, partition along ethnic lines, ethno-religious cleansing and all manner of related horrors was in America's near future.


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30 Aug 2020, 6:56 am

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Most Americans are pretty good people

I strongly disagree. I'd say about half of the American population is decent enough (though ignorant about the rest of the world plus their own country), the other half are happily cheering for a corrupt narcissistic conman and bullying anybody who dares to oppose him with insults and even death threats. Of course now liberals and democrats are doing a lot of bullying and death threats of their own. So yeah, I think a lot of Americans really are just terrible people coming from both the right side of politics and the left side. Of course things were never this bad until Trump became president. So did Trump turn a lot of Americans crazy or did he simply pull the veil off the real face of America and expose us for the terrible people we really are?

that is prolly the #1 worst thing he did, to pull the scab off of amuuurica's festering sociopathy.



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30 Aug 2020, 6:58 am

to quote an infamous person, "why can't we all just get along?" a plaintive cry in the wilderness.



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30 Aug 2020, 7:24 am

I still think that a relatively small group of d-bags and professional crybabies are making a vast majority of decent people look bad. I've lived in lots of states, and in lots of ethnic and economic rungs. The majority of my neighbors have invariably been fine people. If the kids committed crimes, the parents grieved.

I do think that our leadership class, on both sides, isn't exactly covering itself in glory, though.


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30 Aug 2020, 7:30 am

if we had real leaders at all levels, the "professional crybabies and d-bags" wouldn't have a platform to do their dirt. but there just aren't enough adults in the room, anywhere.



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30 Aug 2020, 7:33 am

Agree 1000% Everyone tries to exploit every problem to advance their dubious cause. And social media fans the flames. But if I were to grab a beer with my neighbors I think they'd be fine :heart: :mrgreen:


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30 Aug 2020, 7:39 am

i live in magaland and they treat me like an outsider.



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30 Aug 2020, 10:57 am

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i live in magaland and they treat me like an outsider.


I bet your Magaland doesn't compare to mine. Your state is still a very liberal state. You know I'm from Georgia and you can't drive anywhere here without seeing a "Trump Pence 2020" sign. Also our governor is Brian Kemp and well... you know he's bad if even Trump thinks his policies to reopen Georgia before the pandemic is over are crazy. :|


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30 Aug 2020, 11:15 am

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i live in magaland and they treat me like an outsider.


I bet your Magaland doesn't compare to mine. Your state is still a very liberal state. You know I'm from Georgia and you can't drive anywhere here without seeing a "Trump Pence 2020" sign. Also our governor is Brian Kemp and well... you know he's bad if even Trump thinks his policies to reopen Georgia before the pandemic is over are crazy. :|

mason county is like a red blotch in a sea of blue on the west side of the state. it is like a bit of transplanted deep south.



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30 Aug 2020, 11:20 am

auntblabby wrote:
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i live in magaland and they treat me like an outsider.


I bet your Magaland doesn't compare to mine. Your state is still a very liberal state. You know I'm from Georgia and you can't drive anywhere here without seeing a "Trump Pence 2020" sign. Also our governor is Brian Kemp and well... you know he's bad if even Trump thinks his policies to reopen Georgia before the pandemic is over are crazy. :|

mason county is like a red blotch in a sea of blue on the west side of the state. it is like a bit of transplanted deep south.


Atlanta is like the reverse of that. A blue blotch in a sea of red.


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30 Aug 2020, 11:23 am

Speaking of red, isn't it ironic how during the MacCarthy era the conservatives used to say "Better dead than red!" when referring to communism and yet we are now facing a takeover of red-hat wearing MAGAs from the conservative red states? :nerdy:


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30 Aug 2020, 11:33 am

DeathEmperor413 wrote:
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i live in magaland and they treat me like an outsider.


I bet your Magaland doesn't compare to mine. Your state is still a very liberal state. You know I'm from Georgia and you can't drive anywhere here without seeing a "Trump Pence 2020" sign. Also our governor is Brian Kemp and well... you know he's bad if even Trump thinks his policies to reopen Georgia before the pandemic is over are crazy. :|

mason county is like a red blotch in a sea of blue on the west side of the state. it is like a bit of transplanted deep south.


Atlanta is like the reverse of that. A blue blotch in a sea of red.

is there any love lost between the two?



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30 Aug 2020, 11:43 am

auntblabby wrote:
DeathEmperor413 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
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i live in magaland and they treat me like an outsider.


I bet your Magaland doesn't compare to mine. Your state is still a very liberal state. You know I'm from Georgia and you can't drive anywhere here without seeing a "Trump Pence 2020" sign. Also our governor is Brian Kemp and well... you know he's bad if even Trump thinks his policies to reopen Georgia before the pandemic is over are crazy. :|

mason county is like a red blotch in a sea of blue on the west side of the state. it is like a bit of transplanted deep south.


Atlanta is like the reverse of that. A blue blotch in a sea of red.

is there any love lost between the two?


All I know is Atlanta is nothing like the rest of Georgia.


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30 Aug 2020, 11:49 am

I think for this to really take a hard turn in any direction it would take a catalyzing event.

What seems painfully obvious - economy and economy reduced by COVID is probably the biggest factor in the general pain people are feeling. You then have on top of it all kinds of meme farms in other countries conducting espionage on us across social media (trying to divide and weaken) and then you have all of the disaffected people who have a very low threshold for rioting, people who'd be miserable no matter what and are looking for an outlet to take it out on - you see that in Portland and we saw it in DC a bit back, and certain people with vested interests are even transporting some of these people around the country to stir things up.

This seems like the kind of thing that happens when what should be the 'adults' in the room are either kept out of leadership or are straight-jacketed into silence knowing one word out of context or even just an accusation could destroy them.

To me the country 'burning' is a side-effect of something much more fundamental, and I think a really big piece of it is secular humanism, especially secular humanism with neoliberalism, being tone-deaf to the animal and irrational side of what it is to be human. Hence all sorts of great ideas that can't work in the real world like free global trade without a safety net or institutions and public/civic ethos to ease the transition ends up happening.

I have to keep turning this back to Mark Blyth. Look up his 'Global Trumpism' lecture from late 2016 before Trump won the election, look up his interviews on his book Angrynomics. He explains better than anyone I've seen exactly what's been happening since the early 1970's economically and what got us here (his 'How We Got Here and Why' lecture is excellent as well).


As far as Trump - he's essentially a 'in the threads' chaos magician or alchemist. He knows how to take disorder and craft it into what he wants it to be. He's a strange enough case that if you're betting on him to be evil you can't even count on him for that - he'll do all sorts of things to help people but he'll lie almost every third or fourth word just to keep anything from sticking, to be able to manipulate the media, manipulate the voting base, etc.. I hate to say it but as a country, with the maturity level we have and how we've been running our institutions, our orange spirit animal is a perfect fit for us as a country right now.


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30 Aug 2020, 1:04 pm

^^^



True, Trump is Most Definitely A 'Black Magician';
Understanding Without Understanding the Human
Animal As Whole is Not Rational; Some Will Bow to
Fear and Hate; Others too Weak in Shadow Will
To Raise A Lion
of Love to
Defeat
the Fear
And Hate;
Ironically, those
Without a Monster
of Their Own Are Defeated
Without 'Jedi' Mastery of 'Sith' Tool;
Love Your Enemy, Indeed; Much Deeper Meaning for Real.

Love Without Fear With Shadow Drive; 'A Voice' That Will Not Be 'Put Down'...

Meanwhile, i Go to the Catholic Church And Face 'them' Directly As They continue
to Support 'The Little Dictator'; No Different than Last Century; All they need is
A Shadow
Love
to Face
to Remedy their
Need oF iGnorance Love;
Very Few Will Understand
'The Devil' Enough Now Not
to Laugh in the Power 'The Devil Has';
Just A Metaphor of Course; the Study
Of Human Nature; Just Proves We really
Haven't Changed Much in the last 40,000
or So Years; Except for the (Cave Art) Cultural Clothes We Wear
in Both Dark and Light, We Continue to Co-Create/Co-Change...

At Least Folks are Beginning to Understand Again This

'Devil' Is Real NoW;
And A Formidable
Foe that will Not
Be Dismissed
As the Dark
Force it is;
hehe. yeah;
Don't Dismiss
the Power of
the Dark Force, indeed...

Art iS iN
The Play;
IT iS Not only
'Black And White
Magic'; Not only
in the 'Red and Blue
Pill'; But The Green CoLoRing FLoWeRS
All LiVinG one True as is to Be in Balance..:)

i Wore a 'Baby Yoda Wanted' T-Shirt, Fully Illustrated
to Catholic Church This Morning; The Deacon Parroted
Fox News As Another Usual Arm of the Trump Administration
Crying About 'Fake News'; but the Real Faux News; the False True News;

Like it is Very Evil for the Administration to Pooh Pooh Wearing Masks
And Social Distancing in a Crowd of 1500 Folks at a Republican Convention;
Just providing 'the Death Star' News of 'Everybody is Going to Get This Thing, Anyway';
Meanwhile, as the Genocide of the Vulnerable Continues no Different than World War II;
Just another Way to Do it; to Blame Nature instead to Move Ahead in Power of Dictatorship more;

Anyway, i went up for Communion and received the Little Magic Wafer that is supposedly
Changed into Jesus Like Trump; and Carried it back to the Back Pew and Dropped in on the
Floor where they put a 'Good Cop Jesus' in Perspective of another Day In Church, as far as Love that
Does Not Propagate
Death NoW in the
Most Vulnerable
Among us; where
A Cross as small
As A Piece of Cloth
Mask is too heavy to
Require to Lift to save
Lives in Church; Anyway,
All of this, is Just more excellent DarK
Muse, for Another 'Court Report' of the Day;
Just for the Record as i continue my Watch
as a Rather Epic Participant Anthropology Observer;
The Day,
8.30.2020
i Dropped
The 'Fake
Wafer' on the
Back Row Pew Floor;
Hopefully, someone will
Resuscitate the Fake Wafer
Enough by Next Sunday to
Require Masks to Save the
Sanctity of Life FOR REAL
AMONG THE MOST
VULNERABLE
AMONG US;
you know that
old story what
would Jesus Do;
Such Great Dark
Muse 'Trump' And All
Associated with 'Trump'
Second and Same to
A Poet's Greatest
Muse a Source
of Unrequited
Love the Hunger
For Art THE WAFER that's Always
Fed As DarK BeCoMeS LiGHT AGaiN


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