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08 Sep 2020, 3:33 am

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“Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle.”

----Thomas Jeferson


As Jefferson was a stalwart defender of freedom of the press as the cornerstone of liberty, it really sounds like that quote was cherry picked.


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08 Sep 2020, 3:48 am

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Keep going, you "addressed" half. Why are Biden's many, many gaffes immaterial, while unsourced Trump rumors obviously leaked to interfere with the Election a big deal?


What do you mean? Biden's gaffes have been all over the news, and have been stuff for humor by the likes of Trevor Noah, Samantha Bee, and John Oliver.


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08 Sep 2020, 3:10 pm

Even John Bolden says it didn't happen and he is definitely not in Trumps fan club.


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08 Sep 2020, 3:50 pm

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Even John Bolden says it didn't happen and he is definitely not in Trumps fan club.


That's somewhat inaccurate. John Bolton didn't say that it didn't happen. He said that he was there for a discussion and didn't hear Trump say it at that discussion, but he did not rule out the possibility that it was said later in the day.



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08 Sep 2020, 7:01 pm

kokopelli wrote:
Brehus wrote:
Even John Bolden says it didn't happen and he is definitely not in Trumps fan club.


That's somewhat inaccurate. John Bolton didn't say that it didn't happen. He said that he was there for a discussion and didn't hear Trump say it at that discussion, but he did not rule out the possibility that it was said later in the day.


Thus far, the only people who have spoken publicly regarding this have all denied Mr Trump making the comment: As no-one has come out and stated on the record that he did say it, the balance of probabilities woud indicate it was never said, and the claim was made to pander to the "low information" voters who would never willingly look for source material to confirm it, or which may prove it was a lie.



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08 Sep 2020, 7:14 pm

kokopelli wrote:
Brehus wrote:
Even John Bolden says it didn't happen and he is definitely not in Trumps fan club.


That's somewhat inaccurate. John Bolton didn't say that it didn't happen. He said that he was there for a discussion and didn't hear Trump say it at that discussion, but he did not rule out the possibility that it was said later in the day.


On top of that, Bolton had said it was something Trump would say.


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08 Sep 2020, 7:26 pm

Former National Security Adviser John Bolton reiterated his skepticism over a report alleging that President Trump disparaged America’s war dead during a 2018 trip to France.
Bolton, who turned from friend to foe to the commander-in-chief after leaving the White House, said during an interview Monday with Fox News’ Martha MacCallum that the allegations were “simply false.”
“According to what that article said, the president made disparaging remarks about soldiers and people buried in the cemetery in connection with the decision for him not to go to the ceremony that was planned that afternoon, and that was simply false,” Bolton told the network.


“I don’t know who told the author that, but that was false.”


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08 Sep 2020, 7:38 pm

You can't expose all the liars in DC by becoming the most powerful one of them. Making the problem worse for four years isn't some covert plan that's been going perfectly the whole time for your idealized 'deep state' coup.

It's just four years of BS.

Complaining about bureaucracy becomes moot when you're the one's asking "papers, please". Democrats are not ignoring the subtext, only interpreting it rationally instead of wishfully.


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08 Sep 2020, 8:45 pm

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It's just four years of BS.


Probably the best description of the past 4 years of news based around "anonymous sources" designed to attack a single person that I have seen so far...