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10 Sep 2020, 2:54 am

why did he have to go and do it, guys?

what was his motivation?

was there a historical precedent? do you think he knew what the consequences of this would be?


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10 Sep 2020, 3:02 am

Chasing unexplored opportunities.


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10 Sep 2020, 3:06 am

He felt like he was on the Wrong Planet


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10 Sep 2020, 3:32 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
why did he have to go and do it, guys?

what was his motivation?

was there a historical precedent? do you think he knew what the consequences of this would be?


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1) Not sure he(?) HAD to do it.
2) Most likely less competition for resources (If vegetarian\omnivorous - plenty of "free food") and safer for self and offspring (no predators)
3a) Unlikely...plants, bacteria, etc. maybe.
3b) It is doubtful it had the cognitive ability to look to the future, so "consequences" would have been an unknown concept.



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10 Sep 2020, 3:50 am

Brictoria wrote:
Kiprobalhato wrote:
why did he have to go and do it, guys?

what was his motivation?

was there a historical precedent? do you think he knew what the consequences of this would be?


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1) Not sure he(?) HAD to do it.
2) Most likely less competition for resources (If vegetarian\omnivorous - plenty of "free food") and safer for self and offspring (no predators)
3a) Unlikely...plants, bacteria, etc. maybe.
3b) It is doubtful it had the cognitive ability to look to the future, so "consequences" would have been an unknown concept.

If we're talking about tiktaalik lifestyle, it was carnivorous, living in shallow, warm, oxygen-deprived swampy ponds. Even today fish in such enviroments develop ability to breathe air and move on land (eels, "walking catfish", etc.)

But there are mysterious Zachełmie Tracks that suggest some beast was walking the earth before the neat timeline of Ichtyostega and Tiktaalik...
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10 Sep 2020, 4:06 am

Well......the fish who became an amphibian did it.....why fuss about it now?

This animal probably wanted to get dry. Probably had enough of being sopping wet!



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10 Sep 2020, 4:10 am

To get at prey, to escape predators, to go boldly where no fish had gone before, to escape creditors, or maybe...to get in on the ground floor of some sleazy real estate pyramid scheme. Who knows?

There was historic precedent.

He was not the first animal to invade the land. The invertabrates had already invaded the land. Notably the arthropods.

The ancestors of crabs and lobsters, had already invaded and had become the insects on land. Wood lice are still classified as "crustaceans" and live on both land and sea. Arachnids (spiders, and scorpions) already lived on land and in the sea at the time.

That tiktaalik fellow was actually a johnny-come-lately. But his descendants (a particular species of two legged mammals) wrote the books, and make him out to be somekind of great pioneer of the land! Geeze! Give the bugs their due!



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10 Sep 2020, 4:24 am

More likely the neighbours were making too much noise.



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10 Sep 2020, 5:15 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
why did he have to go and do it, guys?

what was his motivation?

was there a historical precedent? do you think he knew what the consequences of this would be?


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Why did who do what?What on earth are you talking about? :?


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10 Sep 2020, 7:56 am

Is this a bit of humor about evolution? :)


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10 Sep 2020, 8:02 am

… because someone peed in the pool, of course.



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10 Sep 2020, 8:10 am

It’s a rendition of the evolutionary transition from fish to amphibians—from water to land.

Kip’s picture, that is.

He is lamenting that Homo sapiens even emerged.



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10 Sep 2020, 8:14 am

GGPViper wrote:
… because someone peed in the pool, of course.
^ THIS ^

For the win!

Seriously, I haven't wanted to swim in the ocean since my last visit to the aquarium...


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10 Sep 2020, 8:16 am

vermontsavant wrote:
Kiprobalhato wrote:
why did he have to go and do it, guys?

what was his motivation?

was there a historical precedent? do you think he knew what the consequences of this would be?


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Why did who do what?  What on earth are you talking about?
Evolution, of course.


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10 Sep 2020, 8:16 am

He, she or "they" (it could be a non binary gendered creature. I don't want to make any assumptions here) looks quite serene and chill about the whole thing and not really realizing the long term consequences of their actions.



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10 Sep 2020, 8:16 am

If you want to get all PC about it:

How does one know the “he” wasn’t a “she”? :wink: