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10 Sep 2020, 9:33 pm

It seems that among a certain type of people, to be against child porn is now "right wing"...

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“Cuties,” the Extraordinary Netflix Début That Became the Target of a Right-Wing Campaign

On Wednesday, Netflix releases “Cuties” (“Mignonnes”), the remarkable first feature from the French filmmaker Maïmouna Doucouré. Unfortunately, the platform’s misleading advertising has given rise to a scurrilous campaign against the film itself. The promotional image, showing young girls in bikini-like clothing dancing in provocative ways, matched with an inaccurate description, has been taken to suggest that the film celebrates children’s sexualized behavior. In fact, the subject of the film is exactly the opposite: it dramatizes the difficulties of growing up female in a sexualized and commercialized media culture. I doubt that the scandal-mongers (who include some well-known figures of the far right) have actually seen “Cuties,” but some elements of the film that weren’t presented in the advertising would surely prove irritating to them: it’s the story of a girl’s outrage at, and defiance of, a patriarchal order.

Source: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-front-row/cuties-mignonnes-the-extraordinary-netflix-debut-that-became-the-target-of-a-right-wing-campaign#intcid=recommendations_the-new-yorker-homepage_e2987300-afc1-4ea7-8e80-e1481a08e8ce_popular4-1

The reason "right wing" people are against the movie:

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* While the film consists of 11 year old girls dancing very suggestively, it is intended to be seen in an unflattering light. Children mimic what they see online and elsewhere.
* A little girl watches a female rap music video where naked women role play through dance.
* A pair of tight leather pants on an 11 year old girl are forcefully pulled down in the midst of a scuffle with another girl; the camera glances at her underwear exposed bum.
* 11 year old girls dance suggestively in front of a live adult audience. The girls show off their bums and repeatedly move their bums while standing and lying down. They slap themselves on their bums from the back and from the front.
* An 11 year old girl copies a women's seductive "thirst trap" photo from Social Media & then posts her own which receives immediate likes to her instant delight.
* An 11 year old girl finds a condom and blows it up to resemble a breast. The girl then puts it under her shirt to show another 11 year old girl how she too can have big boobs just like them.
* When caught with her uncle's phone, an 11-year-old girl locks herself in the bathroom, pulls down her pants and snaps a picture of her private area before publishing it online. No repercussions are seen of this being on the uncle's phone.

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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9196192/parentalguide

Note: "cuties" is the english language version of the film "mignonnes".


Apparently there are videos around which show some of the "questionable" content of the film, but it's certainly nothing I have any interest in looking at or for.

Based on this, I wonder how many people are unknowingly "right wing" (and what it says about the "left wing" that think this sort of thing is seen as acceptable)?



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10 Sep 2020, 9:52 pm

You sound as bad as the Republicans who were pushing the "gay agenda" a few years ago that all homosexuals must be 'pedophiles'.


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10 Sep 2020, 10:04 pm

Sorry Bric....I've read your source and I have read the parent warnings but I am completely at a loss what this has to do with politics?



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10 Sep 2020, 10:10 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Sorry Bric....I've read your source and I have read the parent warnings but I am completely at a loss what this has to do with politics?



He's trying to imply that left-wingers tolerate seemingly pedophilic movies and that anybody who is rightfully disgusted by pedophillia must be a right-winger, I think.

But it's BS of course. Just like the "gay agenda". I guess when calling the left racists, terrorists, and marxists doesn't stick, the right wing can try calling them pedophiles. How about we accuse them all of being witches while we are at it and burn them at the stake? :roll:


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10 Sep 2020, 10:12 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Sorry Bric....I've read your source and I have read the parent warnings but I am completely at a loss what this has to do with politics?


Let's try reading the heading of the article I linked for a start...
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“Cuties,” the Extraordinary Netflix Début That Became the Target of a Right-Wing Campaign


The campaign against it was entirely related to the child-porn aspect of the film.
The parental warnings indicate some of the problematic content included in it.
The author of the article says that this campaign is "right wing".

Not sure how hard that is to understand...



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10 Sep 2020, 10:19 pm

Brictoria wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Sorry Bric....I've read your source and I have read the parent warnings but I am completely at a loss what this has to do with politics?


Let's try reading the heading of the article I linked for a start...
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“Cuties,” the Extraordinary Netflix Début That Became the Target of a Right-Wing Campaign


The campaign against it was entirely related to the child-porn aspect of the film.
The parental warnings indicate some of the problematic content included in it.
The author of the article says that this campaign is "right wing".

Not sure how hard that is to understand...


And I fail to see how this proves that everyone on the left is tolerant of pedophilia. You're just using this to spread more pro-Trump right wing propaganda.

This is pizzagate all f*****g over again. :roll:


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10 Sep 2020, 10:20 pm

I don’t believe child porn was the intention—quite the opposite.

But certain aspects, unfortunately, would appeal to pedophiliacs.

I don’t have any tolerance for people who are actually into child porn.



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10 Sep 2020, 10:28 pm

Lets slow down everyone. I'll remind everyone that "sexually demeaning content" is not allowed on the website, so no one link any sort of video.

Brictoria wrote:
Based on this, I wonder how many people are unknowingly "right wing" (and what it says about the "left wing" that think this sort of thing is seen as acceptable)?


I'm going to interpret this to mean that this actually isn't left vs right issue but an issue of those who tolerate this sort of thing and those that don't (who are labeled 'right-wing') by those who do.

Brictoria wrote:
Apparently there are videos around which show some of the "questionable" content of the film, but it's certainly nothing I have any interest in looking at or for.


I have no interest in learning more based on the imdb parental guide either.



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10 Sep 2020, 10:34 pm

Bric! mate..."you are seeing reds under the bed"

Richard Brody is a film/art critic who writes for the New Yorker and is a Ivy league Princeton graduate. What makes you think he is representative of the left?

He's an effing "art lover", its french "art-house" "art-nouveau" cinema.

As an arts person he probably thinks the moral-outrage (which he labels as right wing) is like when the Nazis deemed anything as progressive art in the 1930s as "degenerate"

You are completely way off the mark trying to paint this as some type of "left wing" united front to label critics of this movie as right wing.



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10 Sep 2020, 10:53 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I don’t believe child porn was the intention—quite the opposite.

But certain aspects, unfortunately, would appeal to pedophiliacs.

I don’t have any tolerance for people who are actually into child porn.


That's probably the reality.



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10 Sep 2020, 11:06 pm

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Bric! mate..."you are seeing reds under the bed"

Richard Brody is a film/art critic who writes for the New Yorker and is a Ivy league Princeton graduate. What makes you think he is representative of the left?

He's an effing "art lover", its french "art-house" "art-nouveau" cinema.

As an arts person he probably thinks the moral-outrage (which he labels as right wing) is like when the Nazis deemed anything as progressive art in the 1930s as "degenerate"

You are completely way off the mark trying to paint this as some type of "left wing" united front to label critics of this movie as right wing.


Nope...Just pointing out how skewed some people are that they associate a campaign against something with a high degree of "questionble, child related material" as being "right-wing", and by association infer that only someone "right-wing" would suport that campaign.

I don't see it as "right-wing" to be against this sort of thing...This was just to demonstrate how the terms "left wing" and "right wing" are weaponised to try and distract from actual problems in society.



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10 Sep 2020, 11:12 pm

I once went off on a member on here for trying to promote pedophilia behavior and trying to tell me I am only against child and adult relationships because of society taught me it was wrong. This member was also trying to use culture as an excuse to defend it.

But people who defend this stuff sicken me and that member is still posting here so I guess pro contact pedophiles are welcome here.


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10 Sep 2020, 11:14 pm

I don't defend pedophillia, but I also don't think it's right to imply that certain people or groups are pedophiles with no proof, which was the impression that I got that this thread was about.

This felt like more of that pizzagate or "gay agenda" crap to me.


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10 Sep 2020, 11:15 pm

@ Bric You said "some people" but Brody is the only person I have seen making this into a political issue.
Brody is living in the US and the religious right is more influential so perhaps that's his angle. I wouldn't say he's speaking for the left.

Funny thing is it seems to be "mummy groups" or Karens who are most opposed to the movie rather than any political movement.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/home ... 0260bdafc1



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10 Sep 2020, 11:18 pm

League_Girl wrote:
But people who defend this stuff sicken me and that member is still posting here so I guess pro contact pedophiles are welcome here.

The female Writer and director Maïmouna Doucouré said the film is about the hypersexualisation of girls, and Ms Doucouré said she was inspired by a talent show she witnessed in her old Parisian neighbourhood.
“There were these girls on stage dressed in a really sexy fashion in short, transparent clothes,” she told Screen Daily.
“They danced in a very sexually suggestive manner … I was transfixed, watching with a mixture of shock and admiration.
“I asked myself if these young girls understood what they were doing.”
The use of social media and its impacts on young people’s self-perception is another theme of the film.
While Ms Doucouré’s film apparently aims to shine a light on the challenges facing young girls growing up in an ultra-connected, image-obsessed world, some people are furious with the way she’s depicted it, and how Netflix has promoted it.



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10 Sep 2020, 11:25 pm

cyberdad wrote:
@ Bric You said "some people" but Brody is the only person I have seen making this into a political issue.
Brody is living in the US and the religious right is more influential so perhaps that's his angle. I wouldn't say he's speaking for the left.

Funny thing is it seems to be "mummy groups" or Karens who are most opposed to the movie rather than any political movement.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/home ... 0260bdafc1


HE is one person, the editorial board for the publication which published it are additional people who agreed with what was said and how it was presented, indicating they also agreed with the sentiment...

Again, the point was how "left wing" and "right wing" are weaponised (not just in this case) to deflect from societal issues...I'm certain most (if not all) members here would be against the sort of content included in the film, and I'm equally certain a large portion would be shocked that someone could have considered them "right wing" for being against the content (or "right wing" at all).