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16 Sep 2020, 7:43 am

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There is no doubt that centuries of inter breeding have much of Persia and the Indian sub-continent a mix of east Asian and Indo-Iranian culture and language.

If you take the analogy that dravidian DNA is like coffee, Iranian is milk and east asian is tea then almost all south Asians are coffee except it contains more milk as you further north and becomes rather milky when you enter Iran and as you enter the himalayas, north-eastern India and central Asia the milk is more mixed with tea and less coffee.

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The the Turk's were likely an exiled Mongol tribe like the Hun's maybe related to the Xiongnu but have live in the Anatolian peninsula since the 15 century and are heavily Europeanized.I think the Finn's and the Magyar's who are the relatives of modern Hungary came from the Ural mountain region in eastern Russia.


The Turks and Tatars were indeed turko-mongol tribes, but over centuries they absorbed inhabitants of the populations they ruled by taking the children as tribute to fight as soldiers (Turks called them Jannisaries).

The Finns mixed with paleolithic scandanavian Europeans while the Huns absorbed German and Slavic tribes that lived in central Europe.
You know history well for sure,you beat out my brother in-law Kim (he is a man: Kimball) for most knowledgeable amateur historian,or maybe IRL you are a history professor,who knows.

Have you ever read Norman Cantor,he is a great history writer; former Columbia Emeritus Prof. I believe now deceased, but yea great history books.


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16 Sep 2020, 6:39 pm

Yes I have an obsession with history. Interestingly I did join historic societies when I was younger but found I was 30 years younger than the youngest member of such groups. I should recheck again since now I'm in that appropriate age bracket :lol:

I don't particularly follow any one historian but among the Brits the doyen of PIE Prof Colin Renfrew is somebody I have read. Chris Stringer is another (both Renfrew and Stringer were from Cambridge but they are probably retired now),

The Bill Bryson and Neil Oliver type historians are a good gateway into the wonderful world of European history but they tend to skim over the interesting details which I love to explore.



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21 Sep 2020, 1:18 pm

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Yes I have an obsession with history. Interestingly I did join historic societies when I was younger but found I was 30 years younger than the youngest member of such groups. I should recheck again since now I'm in that appropriate age bracket :lol:

I don't particularly follow any one historian but among the Brits the doyen of PIE Prof Colin Renfrew is somebody I have read. Chris Stringer is another (both Renfrew and Stringer were from Cambridge but they are probably retired now),

The Bill Bryson and Neil Oliver type historians are a good gateway into the wonderful world of European history but they tend to skim over the interesting details which I love to explore.

My teenage son is the same. He is obsessed with history, but has trouble finding clubs or groups for his age group. His true passion is military history. I warned him against majoring in history, because of the lack of job opportunities. He wants to do something military-related that exploits his skills with writing and history though. I love history, and have read and watched a ton of information about it. My special interest is geology and rocks though. Also, not many job opportunities there.


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21 Sep 2020, 9:48 pm

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Yes I have an obsession with history. Interestingly I did join historic societies when I was younger but found I was 30 years younger than the youngest member of such groups. I should recheck again since now I'm in that appropriate age bracket :lol:

I don't particularly follow any one historian but among the Brits the doyen of PIE Prof Colin Renfrew is somebody I have read. Chris Stringer is another (both Renfrew and Stringer were from Cambridge but they are probably retired now),

The Bill Bryson and Neil Oliver type historians are a good gateway into the wonderful world of European history but they tend to skim over the interesting details which I love to explore.

My teenage son is the same. He is obsessed with history, but has trouble finding clubs or groups for his age group. His true passion is military history. I warned him against majoring in history, because of the lack of job opportunities. He wants to do something military-related that exploits his skills with writing and history though. I love history, and have read and watched a ton of information about it. My special interest is geology and rocks though. Also, not many job opportunities there.


Would your son be interested in being a history teacher?



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21 Sep 2020, 9:50 pm

I don't know, are any of you unknowingly ancient voodoo witch doctor shamans?

I bet you are, that would be cooler anyway. 8)


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21 Sep 2020, 9:51 pm

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I don't know, are any of you unknowingly ancient voodoo witch doctor shamans?

I bet you are, that would be cooler anyway. 8)


I'm not qualified as I never went to Hogwarts medical college :lol:



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21 Sep 2020, 9:54 pm

Shaman school just dropped me off on these Republicans doorsteps & now all I can do is try to teach them civilized ways.


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22 Sep 2020, 9:21 am

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Yes I have an obsession with history. Interestingly I did join historic societies when I was younger but found I was 30 years younger than the youngest member of such groups. I should recheck again since now I'm in that appropriate age bracket :lol:

I don't particularly follow any one historian but among the Brits the doyen of PIE Prof Colin Renfrew is somebody I have read. Chris Stringer is another (both Renfrew and Stringer were from Cambridge but they are probably retired now),

The Bill Bryson and Neil Oliver type historians are a good gateway into the wonderful world of European history but they tend to skim over the interesting details which I love to explore.

My teenage son is the same. He is obsessed with history, but has trouble finding clubs or groups for his age group. His true passion is military history. I warned him against majoring in history, because of the lack of job opportunities. He wants to do something military-related that exploits his skills with writing and history though. I love history, and have read and watched a ton of information about it. My special interest is geology and rocks though. Also, not many job opportunities there.


Would your son be interested in being a history teacher?


Like me, my son is not really a "people person". He's considered teaching, but I don't think he'd have the patience to deal with the demands and responsibilities of teaching. I might be able to see him teaching at the college level, but it takes a great deal of determination to get through all of the schooling required to become a professor. He's a bright kid, and he could definitely do it, it's just a matter of sticking with it.
I myself started to pursue teaching, but due to a number of issues related to my AS, I realized this was not going to work. Sensory overload and my slow processing speed just don't work well in a classroom.


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22 Sep 2020, 5:46 pm

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Like me, my son is not really a "people person". He's considered teaching, but I don't think he'd have the patience to deal with the demands and responsibilities of teaching. I might be able to see him teaching at the college level, but it takes a great deal of determination to get through all of the schooling required to become a professor. He's a bright kid, and he could definitely do it, it's just a matter of sticking with it.
I myself started to pursue teaching, but due to a number of issues related to my AS, I realized this was not going to work. Sensory overload and my slow processing speed just don't work well in a classroom.


In a previous job working in a university I came across an aspie who specialised in the US civil war (he told me that was his obsession) and he was employed as a sessional tutor and lecturer teaching one unit on the US civil war. While he was only paid part time (he couldn't teach anything else) it gave him a sense of satisfaction as the university appreciated he had memory for fine detail on nearly every known publication on the civil war.



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23 Sep 2020, 9:57 am

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Like me, my son is not really a "people person". He's considered teaching, but I don't think he'd have the patience to deal with the demands and responsibilities of teaching. I might be able to see him teaching at the college level, but it takes a great deal of determination to get through all of the schooling required to become a professor. He's a bright kid, and he could definitely do it, it's just a matter of sticking with it.
I myself started to pursue teaching, but due to a number of issues related to my AS, I realized this was not going to work. Sensory overload and my slow processing speed just don't work well in a classroom.


In a previous job working in a university I came across an aspie who specialised in the US civil war (he told me that was his obsession) and he was employed as a sessional tutor and lecturer teaching one unit on the US civil war. While he was only paid part time (he couldn't teach anything else) it gave him a sense of satisfaction as the university appreciated he had memory for fine detail on nearly every known publication on the civil war.

Yep, that sounds like my son! His obsession is World Wars I and II. Thanks!


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23 Sep 2020, 10:03 pm

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Like me, my son is not really a "people person". He's considered teaching, but I don't think he'd have the patience to deal with the demands and responsibilities of teaching. I might be able to see him teaching at the college level, but it takes a great deal of determination to get through all of the schooling required to become a professor. He's a bright kid, and he could definitely do it, it's just a matter of sticking with it.
I myself started to pursue teaching, but due to a number of issues related to my AS, I realized this was not going to work. Sensory overload and my slow processing speed just don't work well in a classroom.


In a previous job working in a university I came across an aspie who specialised in the US civil war (he told me that was his obsession) and he was employed as a sessional tutor and lecturer teaching one unit on the US civil war. While he was only paid part time (he couldn't teach anything else) it gave him a sense of satisfaction as the university appreciated he had memory for fine detail on nearly every known publication on the civil war.

Yep, that sounds like my son! His obsession is World Wars I and II. Thanks!


All the best for your son, he sounds like a cool dude. Just so you know the civil war sessional was very popular with his students who loved that he was passionate about his area of interest. So its also a great way for your son to meet chicks :wink:



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24 Sep 2020, 7:43 am

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AspiePrincess611 wrote:
Like me, my son is not really a "people person". He's considered teaching, but I don't think he'd have the patience to deal with the demands and responsibilities of teaching. I might be able to see him teaching at the college level, but it takes a great deal of determination to get through all of the schooling required to become a professor. He's a bright kid, and he could definitely do it, it's just a matter of sticking with it.
I myself started to pursue teaching, but due to a number of issues related to my AS, I realized this was not going to work. Sensory overload and my slow processing speed just don't work well in a classroom.


In a previous job working in a university I came across an aspie who specialised in the US civil war (he told me that was his obsession) and he was employed as a sessional tutor and lecturer teaching one unit on the US civil war. While he was only paid part time (he couldn't teach anything else) it gave him a sense of satisfaction as the university appreciated he had memory for fine detail on nearly every known publication on the civil war.

Yep, that sounds like my son! His obsession is World Wars I and II. Thanks!


All the best for your son, he sounds like a cool dude. Just so you know the civil war sessional was very popular with his students who loved that he was passionate about his area of interest. So its also a great way for your son to meet chicks :wink:

Thanks again :D


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26 Sep 2020, 5:37 pm

Funny enough, I've thought about this a lot.

There are certain right wing "cultural issues" I agree with. One of which is that cancel culture is harmful, and that popular feminism especially in its "Me Too" form favors discussing the impact of intentions over their intent in a way that disadvantages numerous people who can't read social cues well, particularly aspies. The other is that capitalism is what you make of it, although anyone trying to build a career and savings in today's world will be frustrated by it.

However, having thought about this, I just care too much about climate change, abortion, and LGBT rights to ever be right wing. That and I'm really not a big fan of how the contemporary right is mobilizing conspiracy theorists and people driven by racial resentment in ways that have a long-term negative impact on political stability.



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26 Sep 2020, 8:22 pm

I think we need a checklist