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Which "Christian" religion should be your national religion?
Anglican 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Baptist 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Roman Catholicism 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Church of Christ, Scientist 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Congregationalist 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Eastern Orthodox 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Episcopalians 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Jehovah's Witness 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Lutheran 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Methodist 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Mormon/LDS 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Pentecost (any) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Presbyterian 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Puritan 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Quakers 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Russian Orthodox 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Seventh-Day Adventist 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Unification 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Unitarian Universalist 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Other or None __________ (Please explain) 72%  72%  [ 13 ]
Total votes : 18


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15 Sep 2020, 10:39 am

That list alone should make a Christian goes atheist.


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15 Sep 2020, 10:40 am

That's what did or for me. Back when I was 12.


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15 Sep 2020, 11:23 am

Fnord wrote:
If it came down to only me choosing a "religion" for my country, my choice would be one based solely on STEM -- Science, Technology, Engineering, and Maths.

Otherwise, I hope for a continued Secularist government and society.

Interesting, in some ways, a STEM RELIGION As Metaphor for Government
Makes Sense As Working for the Government for 25 Years, It is Clear It Is
Based On 'Order' Moving As Far Away From 'Chaos' As Possible; Particularly,
Working for the Disciplined Military This Way for 25 Years; And True as far
as the Core Meaning of Religion in Bonding and Binding Human Being Over
Common Meaning And Purpose For Basic Order of Social Cohesion; This Indeed
is Why Religion
as Practiced Today
Rigidly Will in Effect
Look Much Like STEM
Religion In Order for Social
Cohesion, Where Chaos Does
Not Break the Order as More
Liberal Exploring Nature
Will Naturally Do as
Sails More in
Rough Seas
of Boats
Requiring Anchors
For Safe Harbor; Truly,
There is No Greater Conservatism
Than Science As Science Relies On Order in
Repeatable Predictable Observable Phenomena;
Ironically, This May Be Done Rigidly With Abstract Constructs
That Humans Co-Create in Rigid Ways that Are Not Rational
in How
Sees the World;
While Conservative
in Keeping the Status
Quo of Order; The Chaos
is in the Trees of the Forest;
Indeed Reflecting Nothing 'Real'
Science Observes of Nature in Order at all;

Thing Is; THere is Art And Science...

Thing Is; As Neuroscience Shows

Humans Basically Hallucinate

THeir Reality Now, Based on

The ReaLiTY THeir

Minds Have Created

Before in What We Love to

Call the Reality of Nature Now

That is Chaos in Art of How Our

Minds Create the Only Reality We See Always Changing Now;

Indeed, Science and Even the Abstract Constructs We Glue Ourselves

to So Rigidly; Like Buildings with Predictable Lines and Angles too;

Truly, this is 'the Delusion' We Create; For Nature Flows

Like A River

And Human

Attempts to Chain

What is Wild and Free (God)

Constantly Coloring Reality Differently

in Chains of Science Indeed; Yes, All These

Layers of CuLTuraL Clothes Changing Now too

This 'Delusion' Does Help Us to Survive in Ways;

But on the Other Hand; WHere Colors come to

Play in the More Mystical Aspects of Co-Creating More

Colors of Life;

Johnny And or

'Sally' May Indeed

Live a Rather Drab Life in Order;

All Buttoned Up and Suited without Much Room To Color Life New;

i still believe the Current Religion of America; the Right to Life and Liberty

And the Pursuit of Individual Happiness that does Least Harm by Law to Protect

Those Right of Others in A More Perfect Union is More a Reflection of the Core

Teachings of

'Jesus ' by 'Ideal'

Than Any Other

Religion Practiced

On Earth Now; And True,

A Main Reason it isn't working

Now is the 'Leader' 'Ship' of 'Religion' With

'Trumps' to make a Democracy A Monarchy

of God IN Prison and all of Us indeed; Sadly,

there are Few with Depth of Our Forefathers and Mothers Intent

For This Freedom to Love Life in Dark thru Light That is Essence of 'God Nature'

in Human For Real...

People Spend
So Much 'Time'
Worrying About
'Dying' They
This Heaven
Within Eternally Now
in Fact, They Truly Never Breathe Free
And Just Live Coloring Life New; the trap
of the 'Science' oF CuLTuRaL ClotheS, inDeed
for the Order Required for Basic Survival Now;
The 'Golden Age' At any Age is Mastering that
In Balance
of Art and Science;
A Bit too Fine of an
Art for Everyone to Balance Now;
Way too Many Distractions for
the Science of Art We Create
Now; But of course During
The Renaissance, only
5 Percent or so of
the Population
Age 'Rapture'
Then Either;
It's Just the Way Heaven is...

If We Had a 'Mechanical God'

Life Could Be As Free As a 'Fair' Machine Ride'

Yet Nature and Time Flows As 'the River Dances and Sings'




As 'Rush' in Effortless Ease

No Different Than Breeze

of 'Spirit Wind' (God) Free Relates too...

Fortunately 'the Forefathers and Mothers'

of this Country Had More BreadTH And Depth Than 'Twitter Air'...

And Just to Be Concrete Clear, i am Philosophizing About Our 'National Religion'

That i do Not

Want 'Trumps

And Church' to

Remove from the Grasp

of 'We the People' who are

Clever enough to Actually BReATHE Free...

Indeed, God Nature Loves Best Free in All that is

Dancing Singing As The River Breathes Ocean Water Wave Whole...

KATiE MiA FredericK!iI

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