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cyberdad
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11 Nov 2020, 7:02 pm

Tempus Fugit wrote:
It would be cool if there was less extremism on both sides.


It's funny, I can't find moderator on your tag? but of course you are only moderating one side....



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12 Nov 2020, 2:24 am

Redd_Kross wrote:
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Trump did exceptional.

Sure, he lost a close race ... however ...

-Republicans look to capture 8-15 Democrat House seats

-Republicans likely to keep the Senate

-More people voted Republican than in any prior president election

-Socialist is a dirty word again.
a. Some Democrats say being labeled as a Socialist lost them or nearly lost their seats.

b. AOC says she may quit because "progressives" are being blamed
https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-say ... es-2020-11

-Democrats continue to lose support from black men
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/bla ... w-n1246447

-Trump gained Hispanic vote in Texas, Florida


What that says to me is, support for Republican House and Senate contenders was strong this time around but that didn't automatically translate into votes for Trump. In other words the party faithful have supported the GOP but not its current front man.

I'm not sure how socialism being a dirty word again is a good thing if that's affecting the Democrats. They're a moderately right wing party with a few centrist, social democrat style policies (not socialist, totally different thing). The allegation that the Democrats are socialist is completely false and as such you're flag-waving for a triumph of misrepresentation and stupidity over fact. What's so clever about that?

There are several Democrats who call themselves SOCIALIST.

There are many other Democrats who claim to be "progessive" and favor Socialist ideas.

The "squad" of self-labeled Socialist Democrats ...
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12 Nov 2020, 2:28 am

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The "squad" of self-labeled Socialist Democrats ...
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I was wondering what happened to the "Fab four"? they have been awfully quiet during the election?

Biden gag order?



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12 Nov 2020, 2:47 am

I'm picturing Biden sometime in the near future saying, "Release the Kraken!"



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12 Nov 2020, 3:17 am

TheRobotLives wrote:
Redd_Kross wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Trump did exceptional.

Sure, he lost a close race ... however ...

-Republicans look to capture 8-15 Democrat House seats

-Republicans likely to keep the Senate

-More people voted Republican than in any prior president election

-Socialist is a dirty word again.
a. Some Democrats say being labeled as a Socialist lost them or nearly lost their seats.

b. AOC says she may quit because "progressives" are being blamed
https://www.businessinsider.com/aoc-say ... es-2020-11

-Democrats continue to lose support from black men
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/bla ... w-n1246447

-Trump gained Hispanic vote in Texas, Florida


What that says to me is, support for Republican House and Senate contenders was strong this time around but that didn't automatically translate into votes for Trump. In other words the party faithful have supported the GOP but not its current front man.

I'm not sure how socialism being a dirty word again is a good thing if that's affecting the Democrats. They're a moderately right wing party with a few centrist, social democrat style policies (not socialist, totally different thing). The allegation that the Democrats are socialist is completely false and as such you're flag-waving for a triumph of misrepresentation and stupidity over fact. What's so clever about that?

There are several Democrats who call themselves SOCIALIST.

There are many other Democrats who claim to be "progessive" and favor Socialist ideas.

The "squad" of self-labeled Socialist Democrats ...
Image


They can describe themselves however they like, but social democrats aren't actually socialists by most reasonable definitions.

Regardless of what they call themselves, since when was a politician running on a self-described 'socialist' platform and winning an issue? Pure capitalism has never existed and it's perfectly reasonable to discuss the ideal 'mix' of elements within a mixed economy like every developed nation on earth has.

If the American people want a more 'socialized' economy, why would ideological puritans get to prevent the American people from pursuing the changes they prefer?



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12 Nov 2020, 3:38 am

Is there anyone affiliated with democrats who are actually "socialists"?



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12 Nov 2020, 7:07 am

Perhaps some study of the 14 year long administration of Socialist President François Mitterrand of France could be instructive.

I don't fully align with the agenda of the Crew but I think they are important voices in Congress because they draw attention to important issues in our country that the center might not necessarily talk about every day.


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