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21 Jan 2021, 12:15 pm

So it turns out that a troll on 4chan using the name "Q" was actually...

... a troll on 4chan.

Never saw that one coming, now did we? :roll:

Actually, this guy - despite countless of other candidates - can probably now claim the elusive title as the "Best Troll Ever", as his shenanigans came close to dismantling the US government.


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21 Jan 2021, 12:17 pm

"against stupidity, even the gods themselves contend in vain." [Nietzsche]



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21 Jan 2021, 12:38 pm

I can think of only one Q who could troll humanity so well...

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21 Jan 2021, 12:42 pm

Yes, As A Figure of Speech Now

'Listen up' Folks, If You Haven't
Figured it Out Yet; Standard IQ
Is entirely A Culturally Contrived Construct...

Evolved Human Intelligence Still Now
in Potential is Far Beyond Standard
IQ to the Point Where Folks Are so

Poor in Emotional
Intelligence

They Are
Not Able
to Discern

If Someone

Is Lying to Them
Bold Faced; Yes, Now

As Science Shows Folks
Have Potential Human Intelligences
That Standard IQ and PHD's; Yes,
Piled Higher And Deeper

For Specialized
Entirely Constructed

Cultural Made Skills

Don't
Even

Touch...

Recognizing
How Ignorant i Was
With 3 College Degrees;
And IQ Assessed off the So-Called
Charts; And 33 Years of Work Ending
Up at Higher Levels of Federal Pay Grade
Retiring Before Age 50; i had the Fortune

to Realize

Then

i had

Learned

Nothing of Real

Value in Life at All;

Other Than Making

Money And Surviving;

And i surely Recognize

Precisely Why A Mathematician
Friend of Mind With Higher Degrees
And A Summer And Winter Home

In North
And South
Affluence Fell
Hook, Line, Sinker,
to the CueAnon Non-Sense...

No Different than the Top-Ten
of the Class Priest At My Church

Who Believes He is literally Able

to Turn A Piece of Bread into a

2K Year-Old Dead Human

Who Never Left

A Word He

Actually

Wrote in a Book...
Illiterate Aramaic...

Simply a Legend Written
Of Oral Tradition; THere are

Different Kinds of Intelligence

And Folks So Smart in One Kind

of Intelligence, They Literally Can't Find

Their Way Out of A Paper Bag or They Feel

Uncomfortable Finding Their way

In a Frigging Store

Or Driving

To the Next

City As A Major

Achievement in Life...

Yep, Been THere Done That too...

A GreaTesT Thing is We aRE ALL

'Suitable' For Greater Change in Human

Nature; Yes, Greater Human Potential Intelligences

Adapting Through Struggle And Unpacking of DNA

Epigenetic Brings; Yet It's True, Without Lifting

The Veils of Ignorance And Pursuing

The Challenges

That Are

Possible,

Ya may End up

Believing in a Zombie

Cult; Believing Ya Can Transform

A Piece of Bread into a 2,000 Year
Old Little Brown Man; Once Top 10; in
The Honor Roll of Accounting At College too...

Life is More Now

Than A 'NuMBeRS'

Game; Life

is 'Soul'

Deeper than

Any Ocean Explored

For Real and Yes There

Are Elements Described in

Sacred Texts That Match What

Science Now Understands as 'the Divine'

Like 'Autotelic Flow' Transcending the Limited

Neo-Cortex With Plentiful 'Frission' As An 'Aesthete' Evolves...

Yet my
FRiEnD

Remains

A Stone on A Concrete Road...

Other Folks Travel Over with Ease

Each and Every Now..

In Real
Heaven

Within... Just

Waiting For

His Dirt

Nap

Forever

Nothing to See or Be...

At Least Never Now All that Truly Exists...

Every Day i 'Thought' i Was Going Somewhere

in the Future or Past, i wasn't Really going Anywhere at all...

It Shouldn't

Take a 'Rocket
Scientist' to Figure
This Out and Often
They Don't Have the
Kinds of Human Intelligence

to Actually Do it; no Different Than
The Ignorance of Human Empathy

That Can't See

The Hell

Someone

Feels
Inside...

Should We Convict
Them and Torture

Them Forever

For Their

Lack of Human

Emotional Intelligence

in Not Seeing the otherwise

'Invisible Disability' In the Windows
of the Soul of the Homeless Man on the
Side of the Road; NO, Not Unless We Are Some

Kind of Psychopathic Human God We Will never give up on

Helping Them 'See'

Indeed We will

Be More

Human

Than 'Faux News Gods'...

What is Real is Greater Than Any Faux

God What Is Love is Greater Than Any Word Alone....

Or Frigging
Standard
IQ

Or
What
It Takes
to Build A
Sky Scraper

And Destroy 1 in
8 Animal And Plant
Species in the Coming Decades

Why? NDD, Nature Deficit Disorder
Naked And Free GDD for Real

God Deficit
Disorder

We aRe aLL

More or Less

of the Cosmos

Unto Ourselves Us

And Truly The Chaos

Magic of Art We Create This

Hallucination This Trip That

Even Neuroscience Shows is As Real As Creating Our Realities Grow And Shrink

OtherWise In More Colors of Life Than Some Humans Ever Come to See; Yes, For them

for all practical

Intents

And Purposes

Beyond Nature for
them in NDD/GDD;

Name it SuperNatural
Or SuperNormal it matters

Not as it is in No Place of the Nature of THeiR Existence Real...

Which Comes Back to the Sugar Pill of that Little Piece of Bread

Some folks Come to Believe they Consume As Love For Real

Sugar
Pills

Work

That is not
Entirely Myth
Either As the

Essence of Love

Consumed And Given

Is as Real As Give for the Receive of the Reward of Happiness is...

Try To Put Feet in the Shoes of Your Neighbor; Don't Just Treat them

Through a Narrow View...

True The 'Basic' Golden
Rule Needs ReVision...

It's Not About How

We See... It's About

Understanding

Greater How

Our Neighbors

Survive and Thrive

So Much Differently than We Do...

It Is Essence That Counts Most; Forms Vary Indeed...


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21 Jan 2021, 12:43 pm

Ha ha ha, so who's crying now?

It's certainly not the 'libtards' who voted for Biden that's for damn sure. :lol:


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21 Jan 2021, 12:55 pm

I do wonder if those who took great joy in "owning" the liberals ever considered the long-term consequences of their actions.  I mean, if they had spent less effort on "owning" and more effort on "converting", would Mr. Biden still have won the election?  We will never know.

What we can learn from their loss is that "owning" the opposition (e.g., humiliating, insulting, annoying, or asserting dominance over the opposition) is no way to convince the opposition into coming over to your side.

Sadly, the use of facts, reason, and educated assumptions was an exercise in futility on the part of the liberals to convert their opposition to the winning side.


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21 Jan 2021, 12:56 pm

roronoa79 wrote:
I can think of only one Q who could troll humanity so well...

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He may have been a petulant pain-in-the-neck for Cpt. Picard, but he sure was a snazzy dresser -- just look at those epaulets!


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21 Jan 2021, 12:59 pm

I think the wrong people have been worrying about 'bubbles' for the last 4 years.

These far right people and the absolute wokescold types (who will be offended by absolutely everything because they forget that the real world exists...) haven't bothered to communicate with anyone else.

The slightly woke types (ie genuinely trying not to offend minorities) and the centrists and the generic left have been panicking about 'how do we reach out'.

If these people want us to take them seriously, they need to take a step back from this stuff.

Part of the issue is for certain NTs to stop being 'very online' after covid is over. And for people who are really ill to get off the internet.


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21 Jan 2021, 1:02 pm

Fnord wrote:
I do wonder if those who took great joy in "owning" the liberals every considered the long-term consequences of their actions.  I mean, if they had spent less effort on "owning" and more effort on "converting", would Mr. Biden still have won the election?  We will never know.

What we can learn from their loss is that "owning" the opposition (e.g., humiliating, annoying, or asserting dominance over the opposition) is no way to convince the opposition into coming over to your side.

Sadly, the use facts, reason, and educated assumptions was an exercise in futility on the part of the liberals to convert their opposition to the winning side.


This plus the ableist language involved is why I'm not happy with Vaush's plan to keep 'owning' these people & laughing at them.

Edginess should be left to teenagers who are too young to vote and to political comedy shows. It shouldn't replace serious debate between adults/politicians.


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21 Jan 2021, 1:26 pm

Fnord wrote:
I do wonder if those who took great joy in "owning" the liberals ever considered the long-term consequences of their actions.  I mean, if they had spent less effort on "owning" and more effort on "converting", would Mr. Biden still have won the election?  We will never know.

What we can learn from their loss is that "owning" the opposition (e.g., humiliating, insulting, annoying, or asserting dominance over the opposition) is no way to convince the opposition into coming over to your side.

Sadly, the use of facts, reason, and educated assumptions was an exercise in futility on the part of the liberals to convert their opposition to the winning side.



What about owning the conservs? Making stuff up to make them fall for it like they did with Q'Anan.

Now I know making up stuff to make people fall for it can lead to big consequences, let's remember what happened on Jan 6th 2021.


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21 Jan 2021, 1:32 pm

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What about owning the conservs?

Good question.
Will we ever grow out of this tribal attitude and learn to have constructive debates?


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21 Jan 2021, 1:37 pm

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What about owning the conservs? Making stuff up to make them fall for it like they did with Q'Anon...
While "Turnabout is fair play" is a valid statement, it is not necessarily an ethical one.  "We" won because "we" stuck closer to the truth and were skeptical of the opposition's claims, especially when those claims originated from one specific source.  "We" need to keep to this same strategy, or risk falling to the level of the opposition.


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... Will we ever grow out of this tribal attitude and learn to have constructive debates?
Only when everyone practices zero tolerance for bigotry of any kind.


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21 Jan 2021, 1:45 pm

League_Girl wrote:
Fnord wrote:
I do wonder if those who took great joy in "owning" the liberals ever considered the long-term consequences of their actions.  I mean, if they had spent less effort on "owning" and more effort on "converting", would Mr. Biden still have won the election?  We will never know.

What we can learn from their loss is that "owning" the opposition (e.g., humiliating, insulting, annoying, or asserting dominance over the opposition) is no way to convince the opposition into coming over to your side.

Sadly, the use of facts, reason, and educated assumptions was an exercise in futility on the part of the liberals to convert their opposition to the winning side.



What about owning the conservs? Making stuff up to make them fall for it like they did with Q'Anan.

Now I know making up stuff to make people fall for it can lead to big consequences, let's remember what happened on Jan 6th 2021.


owning the conservs wouldn't require making stuff up, and besides gaslighting is cruel.


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21 Jan 2021, 1:47 pm

Anyone remember that episode in Hey Arnold when he and his friend Gerald try to do a Halloween prank on his family. They set up a fake radio announcement on the roof and do a fake breaking news report about aliens landing and they had the water tower decorated to make it look like a space ship and had it be lit up by one of their friends.

But instead the signal got picked up by a radio station and they fell for it and started broadcasting it and then other people heard and then the whole area was in panic. Then Helga and Phoebe and their classmates who happened to be aliens for Halloween were being chased by an angry mob. Arnold tries to tell everyone there were no aliens and it was all a hoax but no one listens. Only people who listened was his grandfather.

No one knew it was all a hoax until they busted the water tower.

My how I had no idea people were this stupid in real life. I thought this was only on TV but gee you have to wonder where the creators get these ideas.


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21 Jan 2021, 1:49 pm

Fnord wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
What about owning the conservs? Making stuff up to make them fall for it like they did with Q'Anon...
While "Turnabout is fair play" is a valid statement, it is not necessarily an ethical one.  "We" won because "we" stuck closer to the truth and were skeptical of the opposition's claims, especially when those claims originated from one specific source.  "We" need to keep to this same strategy, or risk falling to the level of the opposition.


And we are supposed to be the emotional and illogical ones and lack critical thinking. :roll:


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