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09 Mar 2021, 9:48 am

In Denmark, one of the politicians has a disability (not a cognitive/mental one btw).

Recently he was a victim of a lot of ad-hominem attacks because of his disability, with a lot of people saying that they wish disabled people like him and others should be sent to death camps.

They wrote that on Facebook and they were not afraid of not being anonymous.

The really scare thing was that the majority of the comments were hateful.

Even the more moderate news media is very sceptical on disabled people. Most Danes also think that disabled people should not recieve disability pension, no matter how disabled they are.

I don't think this hatred has anything to do with economics. In Ancient Greece disabled people were outcasts and disabled infants were left to the wolves to eat.

The Vikings did the same thing.

Jesus was also crucified because he helped the sick and poor.

Why do humans hate disabled people so much?



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09 Mar 2021, 10:03 am

thinkinginpictures wrote:
... Why do humans hate disabled people so much?
A quick search of the Internet reveals...

• Fear or distrust of disabled people's actions, intentions, and/or motivations.

• Fear or distrust of disabled people's service animals.

• The false belief that all disabled people place undue burdens of families, friends, and society in general.

• The false belief that all disabled people are "inferior" and/or "weak"; hence undeserving of respect.

• The false belief that all disabled people are exaggerating their disabilities or simply "faking it".

• The false belief that all disabled people are lazy and/or "gaming the system".

• The false belief that all disabled people receive too much attention and/or too many privileges.

• The false belief that all disabled people somehow "deserved" their disabilities (e.g., "G^D's will").

• The false belief that providing even reasonable accommodations is "too expensive" and/or "too much trouble".

• The fear that disabilities are somehow contagious.

• The sight of jerky and/or uncoordinated movements triggers emotional distress in some able-bodied people.

• The sight of missing and/or prosthetic limbs triggers emotional distress in some able-bodied people.


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09 Mar 2021, 10:44 am

Fnord wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
... Why do humans hate disabled people so much?
A quick search of the Internet reveals...

• Fear or distrust of disabled people's actions, intentions, and/or motivations.

• Fear or distrust of disabled people's service animals.

• The false belief that all disabled people place undue burdens of families, friends, and society in general.

• The false belief that all disabled people are "inferior" and/or "weak"; hence undeserving of respect.

• The false belief that all disabled people are exaggerating their disabilities or simply "faking it".

• The false belief that all disabled people are lazy and/or "gaming the system".

• The false belief that all disabled people receive too much attention and/or too many privileges.

• The false belief that all disabled people somehow "deserved" their disabilities (e.g., "G^D's will").

• The false belief that providing even reasonable accommodations is "too expensive" and/or "too much trouble".

• The fear that disabilities are somehow contagious.

• The sight of jerky and/or uncoordinated movements triggers emotional distress in some able-bodied people.

• The sight of missing and/or prosthetic limbs triggers emotional distress in some able-bodied people.


It's not false beliefs. It's lies. They know it is a lie that ie. all disabled people game the system or are lazy.

I'm quite sure the hatred is because people find it is fun to be evil.



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09 Mar 2021, 11:26 am

thinkinginpictures wrote:
Fnord wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
... Why do humans hate disabled people so much?
A quick search of the Internet reveals...

• Fear or distrust of disabled people's actions, intentions, and/or motivations.

• Fear or distrust of disabled people's service animals.

• The false belief that all disabled people place undue burdens of families, friends, and society in general.

• The false belief that all disabled people are "inferior" and/or "weak"; hence undeserving of respect.

• The false belief that all disabled people are exaggerating their disabilities or simply "faking it".

• The false belief that all disabled people are lazy and/or "gaming the system".

• The false belief that all disabled people receive too much attention and/or too many privileges.

• The false belief that all disabled people somehow "deserved" their disabilities (e.g., "G^D's will").

• The false belief that providing even reasonable accommodations is "too expensive" and/or "too much trouble".

• The fear that disabilities are somehow contagious.

• The sight of jerky and/or uncoordinated movements triggers emotional distress in some able-bodied people.

• The sight of missing and/or prosthetic limbs triggers emotional distress in some able-bodied people.
It's not false beliefs.  It's lies.  They know it is a lie...
Do they?  When you believe a lie is a truth, then that belief is false.

Yes, I have met people who have expressed sincere belief in one or more of those lies -- some of them were my own relatives -- and there was nothing I could do to convince them otherwise.  They also believed in conspiracy theories; some were even caught up in doomsday prophesy cults.

I am SO glad I moved out of Michigan.


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09 Mar 2021, 1:31 pm

Survival of the fittest instincts? Not wanting anyone they perceive as weak or a burden - anyone who can't defend themselves or others, or provide for themselves and others. Meanwhile Elders fit this category but typically get a pass and respect - because they earned it via hard work, battles, providing for themselves and others etc for many years.

But then there's modern society where technology is the great equalizer for many disabled people. My best friend is disabled (deaf) and is also the CEO of his growing tech company that does multiple 7 figures/year in business. Be like him and don't listen to anyone tell you that you can't do something & just do it anyways. 8)


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09 Mar 2021, 2:01 pm

Some of the people originated from Norse people (viking heritage) gravitate towards neo-pagan / neo-nazi beliefs / values.

The nazi's of the world war 2 used all sorts of propaganda to manipulate the people in order to incite them to take up arms and to join their cause.

This includes the use of powerful imagery provoking Greek, Roman and Viking mythology. 3 of the greatest empires in history, that also had a class system structure to their societies, and who all also were known to expand their territory and wealth using offensive warfare and conquest methodology.

The countries who have a strong identity based on their viking heritage have some inhabitants that harbour anti disabled values based on the viking folklore, but also the nazi philosophy of race supremacy and eugenics.



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09 Mar 2021, 2:20 pm

thinkinginpictures wrote:
Jesus was also crucified because he helped the sick and poor.


I'm not sure that's why Roman and Jewish authorities viewed him as a threat. They wrote the reason above his head.



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09 Mar 2021, 3:14 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
thinkinginpictures wrote:
Jesus was also crucified because he helped the sick and poor.
I'm not sure that's why Roman and Jewish authorities viewed him as a threat.  They wrote the reason above his head.
"IESUS NAZARENUS REX IUDEUM"
"Ο Ιησούς της Ναζαρέτ Βασιλιάς των Εβραίων"
"ישוע מנצרת מלך היהודים"


How could any of this be a threat?


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09 Mar 2021, 3:47 pm

It's the us vs them mentality, like with racism or sexism or homophobia. At least, that's what it seems like.


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10 Mar 2021, 4:34 am

It's said to be human nature to be skeptic of things that one does not understand. I suppose that applies to the disabled as well.

Another thing is a matter of money: a fact is that a lot of disabled people eat away at tax money for treatment and basic living, including people that can't really produce any tax money back (as in, can't work/can only work very little.) Not everyone likes that; they might feel it to be unfair that they have to work hard to get a roof over their heads while some people get one for free without doing anything to earn it.

Then there's a matter of superstitions: apparently, in some cultures, it's still believed that associating with disabled people brings bad luck.



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10 Mar 2021, 3:57 pm

Humans are,. by nature, animals. Animals seek domination over their peers. Degrading disabled people gets douchebags the attention they seek. Other neurotypical peopl find it funny for someone to be humiliated by another person. Just see how people like seeing a street fight. The one who would break the fight would be booed. Humans are competitive and like easy matchups. If they can put someone down easily, they will.



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10 Mar 2021, 4:20 pm

Fireblossom wrote:

Another thing is a matter of money: a fact is that a lot of disabled people eat away at tax money for treatment and basic living, including people that can't really produce any tax money back (as in, can't work/can only work very little.) Not everyone likes that; they might feel it to be unfair that they have to work hard to get a roof over their heads while some people get one for free without doing anything to earn it.


I am curious what their real world solution is to do with all of us disabled people who don't contribute enough in their opinion. For some people the only disabled that are worth much are just the ones that over-come and succeed despite all odds.


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10 Mar 2021, 5:10 pm

Fireblossom wrote:
It's said to be human nature to be skeptic of things that one does not understand. I suppose that applies to the disabled as well.

That's a good point.

Also *visible* and *invisible* disability may be treated differently, based on not understanding.


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10 Mar 2021, 7:30 pm

"Why are you people avoiding me? Does my withered face remind you of the grim specter of death?" THE SIMPSONS, LISA vs MALIBU STACY, 1994...

Another reason... Right wing politicians play up scarcity and people get the idea disabled people are a luxury we cannot afford.



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11 Mar 2021, 3:03 am

TheRobotLives wrote:
Fireblossom wrote:
It's said to be human nature to be skeptic of things that one does not understand. I suppose that applies to the disabled as well.

That's a good point.

Also *visible* and *invisible* disability may be treated differently, based on not understanding.


They tend to be, yeah. If someone is in a wheelchair due to having bad legs, it's a given they won't do well in PE class when doing something like football or gymnastics. But if someone has a weak body due to a physical condition that can't be easily seen from the outside, they're just considered lazy and should just train more, even by the teachers... yes, been there.