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15 Aug 2021, 11:18 am

That's what I thought. But is that really the motivation of the Democrats since or those mayors?



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15 Aug 2021, 4:18 pm

People are not gonna like me for saying this, but it needs to be said.

There are people in this country that would rather have 9/11 happen again a thousand times all at once than let the opposing political party have any advantage.


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15 Aug 2021, 4:31 pm

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1/6 was way way more then a larp. The Shaman and other theater have made it too easy to dismiss 1/6. It is too easy to dismiss 1/6 because of what did not happen instead of looking at what came too close to happening. There were members of hardcore domestic terrorist groups in that crowd. For arguments sakes lets say they were delusional role players. What would have happened if somehow the got to the Congressmen or Pence and killed them or put them on trial as part of the “game”? Is that any less bad?


If it was a serious attempt to murder the Vice President and various Senators and Representatives, how come not a single person brought a gun? Given the country we live in and the political demographics of that crowd, I think that's a very important detail that frequently gets glossed over.


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15 Aug 2021, 9:01 pm

If 9/11 happened today, there would be tick tock footage about it, there would be more live videos of it on reddit and youtube and Facebook because I know people would be filming it with their phones and putting it online.


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16 Aug 2021, 12:13 am

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We’re more concerned about domestic, far-right terrorism now than about foreign terrorists.

1/6 changed everything just as much as 9/11.

Domestic terrorists vs foreign terrorists. Both groups were far-right.


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16 Aug 2021, 8:13 am

Now that Afghanistan has fallen back into Taliban control it....probably WILL "happen today" ( ie happen again in the near future).

The Taliban will allow their country to be used as a staging ground for terrorist groups like Al Queda, and ISIS- just like they did in 2001. And these outside groups may well attack us again, and level a skyscraper again just like Al Queda did in 2001. And whomever is POTUS then will have no choice but to...invade Afghanistan again! Seriously - nonretaliation would not be an option because the American people would demand retaliation - and you get something like that go unpunished.

So....we will invade the place again.

And we will end up quagmired in the place again for another 20 years. And some future POTUS after that... will face an electorate demanding that we leave the place. So this second POTUS will have no choice but to set a deadline to leave...and we will have another messy withdrawl like this from the same country...in circa 2045.

Kinda like the movie "Groundhog Day" starring Bill Murray. But not as funny.



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16 Aug 2021, 4:10 pm

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Depends on the nature of the attack.

Trump and Mike Pence accused China of releasing a bioweapon and curiously the Chinese government has been aggressively expanding militarily during COVID-19 since March 2020. Millions have died as a result of the virus which could well have been designed as a bioweapon. But the US isn't taking action against China.


I think it's more speculation and sabre rattling along with having to take action against a very powerful enemy.

With 9/11 it was obvious who did it as the perpetrator even publicly said he did it. The enemy was also a relatively weak one in an area that was testing the patients of allied nations anyway.



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16 Aug 2021, 4:33 pm

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Now that Afghanistan has fallen back into Taliban control it....probably WILL "happen today" ( ie happen again in the near future).

The Taliban will allow their country to be used as a staging ground for terrorist groups like Al Queda, and ISIS- just like they did in 2001. And these outside groups may well attack us again, and level a skyscraper again just like Al Queda did in 2001. And whomever is POTUS then will have no choice but to...invade Afghanistan again! Seriously - nonretaliation would not be an option because the American people would demand retaliation - and you get something like that go unpunished.

So....we will invade the place again.

And we will end up quagmired in the place again for another 20 years. And some future POTUS after that... will face an electorate demanding that we leave the place. So this second POTUS will have no choice but to set a deadline to leave...and we will have another messy withdrawl like this from the same country...in circa 2045.

Kinda like the movie "Groundhog Day" starring Bill Murray. But not as funny.


If it happens again they need to seize control of it permanently and install their own government.



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16 Aug 2021, 4:35 pm

If 9/11 were to happen today...
...hawks would insist we invade Afghanistan for the next several decades. :nerdy:


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16 Aug 2021, 4:37 pm

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If it was a serious attempt to murder the Vice President and various Senators and Representatives, how come not a single person brought a gun? Given the country we live in and the political demographics of that crowd, I think that's a very important detail that frequently gets glossed over.


Quite right. Calling that vandalism an "attempted coup" is a stretch and the event doesn't come close to 9/11 in comparison.

If 9/11 actually happened again today, the first step they'd take, before even contemplating invading another country, is push through PATRIOT ACT 2.0, which would make the original PATRIOT ACT and all these draconian lock-down laws look like hopscotch.



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16 Aug 2021, 5:25 pm

Nades wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Now that Afghanistan has fallen back into Taliban control it....probably WILL "happen today" ( ie happen again in the near future).

The Taliban will allow their country to be used as a staging ground for terrorist groups like Al Queda, and ISIS- just like they did in 2001. And these outside groups may well attack us again, and level a skyscraper again just like Al Queda did in 2001. And whomever is POTUS then will have no choice but to...invade Afghanistan again! Seriously - nonretaliation would not be an option because the American people would demand retaliation - and you get something like that go unpunished.

So....we will invade the place again.

And we will end up quagmired in the place again for another 20 years. And some future POTUS after that... will face an electorate demanding that we leave the place. So this second POTUS will have no choice but to set a deadline to leave...and we will have another messy withdrawl like this from the same country...in circa 2045.

Kinda like the movie "Groundhog Day" starring Bill Murray. But not as funny.


If it happens again they need to seize control of it permanently and install their own government.


You mean...do same thing we did the first time?



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16 Aug 2021, 7:16 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Depends on the nature of the attack.

Trump and Mike Pence accused China of releasing a bioweapon and curiously the Chinese government has been aggressively expanding militarily during COVID-19 since March 2020. Millions have died as a result of the virus which could well have been designed as a bioweapon. But the US isn't taking action against China.

Sounds about right. You can't expect Captain Bonespurs to actually do something. He was to busy playing with Twitter.


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16 Aug 2021, 7:50 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Nades wrote:
If it happens again they need to seize control of it permanently and install their own government.

You mean...do same thing we did the first time?

With one difference.


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17 Aug 2021, 2:32 am

Well according to some news articles, such as this one, apparently the Taliban are taking over Afghanistan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KMj5lrPMpk

Is this true though that Taliban are taking over the country and have practically seized Kabul?



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17 Aug 2021, 2:53 am

ironpony wrote:
Well according to some news articles, such as this one, apparently the Taliban are taking over Afghanistan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KMj5lrPMpk

Is this true though that Taliban are taking over the country and have practically seized Kabul?


Yes.

And water is wet. The sky is blue. Poison ivy is a plant that looks like ivy, but it's poison. And most humans have two eyes, and two arms, and two legs.

Did I cover all of the dumb questions that you want Captain Obvious to answer?

Or do you have some more? :lol:

And since you want us on WP to do the work of reading the newspapers for you...is there anything else that you want us to do for you as well?

Like maybe we all can follow you into the bathroom and hold your dingaling while you take a tinkle ! :lol:



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17 Aug 2021, 4:46 pm

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People are not gonna like me for saying this, but it needs to be said.

There are people in this country that would rather have 9/11 happen again a thousand times all at once than let the opposing political party have any advantage.

QFT


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