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06 Aug 2021, 11:44 am

Right now in America we have a tribe called Magas that are causing trouble.


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06 Aug 2021, 11:46 am

Don’t forget Pol Pot.


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06 Aug 2021, 2:15 pm

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Magas

Well, howya properly pronounce it?
Is it
maGÁÁs
or
MÁÁgas
????
- or something else entirely?
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06 Aug 2021, 2:56 pm

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White people also exterminate each other.

The Balkan war
Stalin killings
The Great Hunger where the English let the Irish starve ,solved that problem without firing a shot
Spanish Inquisition
Humans are nasty violent little apes.


Yeah, it's just they are very very good at it :lol:

The Arabs/Turks come second and the Chinese third.

Africa has a long sad history of tribal conflict.
https://reliefweb.int/report/world/conf ... lenge-2020

Africa? No Way! Africa lived for thousands of centuries in total peace and harmony with a reverence for science, nature and diversity until the Europeans came and destroyed it all! :D



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06 Aug 2021, 5:43 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
White people also exterminate each other.

The Balkan war
Stalin killings
The Great Hunger where the English let the Irish starve ,solved that problem without firing a shot
Spanish Inquisition
Humans are nasty violent little apes.


Yeah, it's just they are very very good at it :lol:

The Arabs/Turks come second and the Chinese third.

Africa has a long sad history of tribal conflict.
https://reliefweb.int/report/world/conf ... lenge-2020

Africa? No Way! Africa lived for thousands of centuries in total peace and harmony with a reverence for science, nature and diversity until the Europeans came and destroyed it all! :D


Typical imperialist apologist rhetoric, justifying genocide and destruction just because the people colonized and exploited weren't perfect


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06 Aug 2021, 5:46 pm

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Typical imperialist apologist rhetoric, justifying genocide and destruction just because the people colonized and exploited weren't perfect


Look at how Europe struggled to implement rule of law, was torn by ethnic strife, etc. All the same arguments for why everyone else deserved it are just as applicable.


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06 Aug 2021, 5:53 pm

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Look at how Europe struggled to implement rule of law, was torn by ethnic strife, etc. All the same arguments for why everyone else deserved it are just as applicable.

I propose different criteria. The more powerful someone is, the more they deserve to be colonized :3



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06 Aug 2021, 6:28 pm

Pepe wrote:
salad wrote:
Just went to a Native American tribal meeting where several elders were talking about their experiences in residential boarding schools

I felt like throwing up

The graphic stories of rape, abuse, sexual assault, and all types of horrific s**t I dont feel like recounting made me think "WTF, why wasnt I ever taught this in school"

I cant believe there are actually some people who think that America's history isn't that bad and that every country was this awful

Before anyone tries to pull a Godwin's Law on me for comparing America to Nazi Germany know that Hitler modeled the Holocaust based off of the American concept of Manifest Destiny and the white settlers treatment of Native Americans

I always knew America had a dark history, but I never thought America's history was this dark

As much as I used to be open about comparing Israel's treatment of Palestinians to America's treatment of Natives I'm going to stop doing that from now on because as much as I thought Palestinians had it bad what the white settlers did to the Native Americans was way worse

I'm honestly ashamed to be American now


EDIT: if I came off angry and strong its because some of the stuff discussed in the tribal meeting were very raw and very triggering, and to be honest it made me full of rage hearing how the Americans treated the Native Americans in that meeting with such callous disregard. The graphic recounting of certain rapes were very traumatizing to listen to

Jesus


When I learnt what the Amerians did to the Germans after the war, I felt the same disgust.
eisenhauer's death camps and man-made famines?
If it wasn't for the communist threat, germany would have been de-industrialised which would have meant millions of Germans wouldn't have been able to feed themselves and die.

eisenhauser was a German hater of the worst degree, but people don't talk about that mass murder's deeds either.

And here is a cheerful picture of what the marines were up to in the Pacific islands:

Image


I'm proud of my grandfather who while in the US Army took part in the smashing of Germany.



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06 Aug 2021, 6:47 pm

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Right now in America we have a tribe called Magas that are causing trouble.


"Magas"?
Isn't that the religious cult that worships "wokeness" rather rationality? :scratch:

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Don’t forget Pol Pot.


Isn't that the guy who furthered the cause of legalising marijuana? :scratch:


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Also, as George Carlin said, "I have no stake in the outcome." I'll stick around for the comedy.

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06 Aug 2021, 7:02 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
White people also exterminate each other.

The Balkan war
Stalin killings
The Great Hunger where the English let the Irish starve ,solved that problem without firing a shot
Spanish Inquisition
Humans are nasty violent little apes.


Yeah, it's just they are very very good at it :lol:

The Arabs/Turks come second and the Chinese third.

Africa has a long sad history of tribal conflict.
https://reliefweb.int/report/world/conf ... lenge-2020

Africa? No Way! Africa lived for thousands of centuries in total peace and harmony with a reverence for science, nature and diversity until the Europeans came and destroyed it all! :D


They made up for the previously benign existence:

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Shaka's reign coincided with the start of the Mfecane/Difaqane ("Upheaval" or "Crushing"), a period of devastating warfare and chaos in southern Africa between 1815 and about 1840 that depopulated the region. His role in the Mfecane/Difaqane is highly controversial. He was ultimately assassinated by his half brothers Dingane and Mhlangana.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaka

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The Rwandan genocide[3] occurred between 7 April and 15 July 1994 during the Rwandan Civil War.[4] During this period of around 100 days, members of the Tutsi minority ethnic group, as well as some moderate Hutu and Twa, were slaughtered by armed militias. The most widely accepted scholarly estimates are around 500,000 to 800,000 Tutsi deaths.[5] Estimates for the total death toll (including Hutu and Twa victims) are as high as 1,100,000.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide

And these days, visit Africa at your own risk. 8O

Those who think it is only the whiteys who are disgusting human filth need to think again, or they will be labelled Vaadwaur. 8)


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And one more thing,



Also, as George Carlin said, "I have no stake in the outcome." I'll stick around for the comedy.

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06 Aug 2021, 7:06 pm

Pepe wrote:
shlaifu wrote:
Pepe wrote:
shlaifu wrote:
Pepe wrote:
salad wrote:
Just went to a Native American tribal meeting where several elders were talking about their experiences in residential boarding schools

I felt like throwing up

The graphic stories of rape, abuse, sexual assault, and all types of horrific s**t I dont feel like recounting made me think "WTF, why wasnt I ever taught this in school"

I cant believe there are actually some people who think that America's history isn't that bad and that every country was this awful

Before anyone tries to pull a Godwin's Law on me for comparing America to Nazi Germany know that Hitler modeled the Holocaust based off of the American concept of Manifest Destiny and the white settlers treatment of Native Americans

I always knew America had a dark history, but I never thought America's history was this dark

As much as I used to be open about comparing Israel's treatment of Palestinians to America's treatment of Natives I'm going to stop doing that from now on because as much as I thought Palestinians had it bad what the white settlers did to the Native Americans was way worse

I'm honestly ashamed to be American now


EDIT: if I came off angry and strong its because some of the stuff discussed in the tribal meeting were very raw and very triggering, and to be honest it made me full of rage hearing how the Americans treated the Native Americans in that meeting with such callous disregard. The graphic recounting of certain rapes were very traumatizing to listen to

Jesus


When I learnt what the Amerians did to the Germans after the war, I felt the same disgust.
eisenhauer's death camps and man-made famines?
If it wasn't for the communist threat, germany would have been de-industrialised which would have meant millions of Germans wouldn't have been able to feed themselves and die.

eisenhauser was a German hater of the worst degree, but people don't talk about that mass murder's deeds either.


that may be because most historians think those never happened. as far as I know, there's just one book on this and it's highly disputed.
hard to make a judgment on this, 75 years later, with poor documentation and no whitnesses making any accusations at all.


Some people deny the Holocaust ever happened. 8)

There is a documented plan for poisoning the water supply of large German cities, with the intention of murdering millions of men, women and children, indiscriminately.
It was decided that a man-made famine, with Red Cross food parcels left on the trains to rot and denying prisoners of war the designation of P.O.W so the Geneva Convention rulz didn't have to be adhered to, was a better way to go. 8)

I use life experience, critical thinking skills, and my knowledge of human psychology. 8)

Quote:
'An Eye for an Eye': The Jews Who Sought to Poison Six Million Germans to Avenge the Holocaust

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.pr ... -1.8094962


yes, there were those plans.
but my grandparents all were Nazis. one of my grandfathers was a POW in Russia at the age of 16. But I have never heard anyone - in person or in the media - speak about the Americans treating Germans particularly badly. Not even the Neo-Nazis, who both deny the Holocaust and simultaneously say the bombing of Dresden was just as bad.
Quite literally the only source of this claim is a contested book I stumbled across on the internet one day.

I think relying on one's experience of human psychology is an inadequate approach to determine historical events like the supposed murder of up to a million people. I demand some less contingent indicators.


Quote:
Morgenthau wanted not only subdivide Germany into smaller parts, he wanted to wreck all of its industrial capabilities. In order to keep Germans from making armaments, he wanted to keep them from making anything at all. Industrial facilities were to be destroyed, mines were to be wrecked and filled, experts in production and manufacturing would be forcibly removed from the region and put to work elsewhere. Germany was going to become an agrarian state, set back almost a thousand years.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/popular/ ... many-wwii/

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One of the people who hated Germany and wanted to take it out for good was Secretary of the Treasury Henry Morgenthau, Jr. — and he was almost President of the United States.

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-us- ... ?r=AU&IR=T

Quote:

Morgenthau Plan - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Morgenthau_Plan

An investigation by Herbert Hoover concluded the plan would result in up to 25 million Germans starving to death. From 1947, US policies aimed at restoring a "stable and productive Germany" and were soon followed by the Marshall Plan.


Quote:
God, I hate the Germans.
Dwight D. Eisenhower


Quote:
Marshall saw communism as a threat to European stability. The Soviet Union’s sphere of influence increased during World War II, and tensions between Eastern and Western Europe intensified.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/marshall-plan.asp

I won't be breastfeeding anyone.
Connect the dots yourself.
I am not anyone's mother. 8)


yes, I know of the Morgenthau plan and of the Soviets being the sole reason the Americans picked the Marshall plan instead.
But you need more of an Eisenhower quote as a source for the claim of a the Americans killing a million German POWs in concentration camps.
Reason prohibits connecting these dots.


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06 Aug 2021, 7:07 pm

Axeman wrote:
Pepe wrote:
salad wrote:
Just went to a Native American tribal meeting where several elders were talking about their experiences in residential boarding schools

I felt like throwing up

The graphic stories of rape, abuse, sexual assault, and all types of horrific s**t I dont feel like recounting made me think "WTF, why wasnt I ever taught this in school"

I cant believe there are actually some people who think that America's history isn't that bad and that every country was this awful

Before anyone tries to pull a Godwin's Law on me for comparing America to Nazi Germany know that Hitler modeled the Holocaust based off of the American concept of Manifest Destiny and the white settlers treatment of Native Americans

I always knew America had a dark history, but I never thought America's history was this dark

As much as I used to be open about comparing Israel's treatment of Palestinians to America's treatment of Natives I'm going to stop doing that from now on because as much as I thought Palestinians had it bad what the white settlers did to the Native Americans was way worse

I'm honestly ashamed to be American now


EDIT: if I came off angry and strong its because some of the stuff discussed in the tribal meeting were very raw and very triggering, and to be honest it made me full of rage hearing how the Americans treated the Native Americans in that meeting with such callous disregard. The graphic recounting of certain rapes were very traumatizing to listen to

Jesus


When I learnt what the Amerians did to the Germans after the war, I felt the same disgust.
eisenhauer's death camps and man-made famines?
If it wasn't for the communist threat, germany would have been de-industrialised which would have meant millions of Germans wouldn't have been able to feed themselves and die.

eisenhauser was a German hater of the worst degree, but people don't talk about that mass murder's deeds either.

And here is a cheerful picture of what the marines were up to in the Pacific islands:

Image


I'm proud of my grandfather who while in the US Army took part in the smashing of Germany.


How can that be? :scratch:
*ALL* Amerians were evil, just as *ALL* Germans were.

I need to think about what you have said.
Life is only about binaries, after all, according to some. :mrgreen:


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If I'm so bad, pass me by. ;)


And one more thing,



Also, as George Carlin said, "I have no stake in the outcome." I'll stick around for the comedy.

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06 Aug 2021, 7:10 pm

shlaifu wrote:
Pepe wrote:
shlaifu wrote:
Pepe wrote:
shlaifu wrote:
Pepe wrote:
salad wrote:
Just went to a Native American tribal meeting where several elders were talking about their experiences in residential boarding schools

I felt like throwing up

The graphic stories of rape, abuse, sexual assault, and all types of horrific s**t I dont feel like recounting made me think "WTF, why wasnt I ever taught this in school"

I cant believe there are actually some people who think that America's history isn't that bad and that every country was this awful

Before anyone tries to pull a Godwin's Law on me for comparing America to Nazi Germany know that Hitler modeled the Holocaust based off of the American concept of Manifest Destiny and the white settlers treatment of Native Americans

I always knew America had a dark history, but I never thought America's history was this dark

As much as I used to be open about comparing Israel's treatment of Palestinians to America's treatment of Natives I'm going to stop doing that from now on because as much as I thought Palestinians had it bad what the white settlers did to the Native Americans was way worse

I'm honestly ashamed to be American now


EDIT: if I came off angry and strong its because some of the stuff discussed in the tribal meeting were very raw and very triggering, and to be honest it made me full of rage hearing how the Americans treated the Native Americans in that meeting with such callous disregard. The graphic recounting of certain rapes were very traumatizing to listen to

Jesus


When I learnt what the Amerians did to the Germans after the war, I felt the same disgust.
eisenhauer's death camps and man-made famines?
If it wasn't for the communist threat, germany would have been de-industrialised which would have meant millions of Germans wouldn't have been able to feed themselves and die.

eisenhauser was a German hater of the worst degree, but people don't talk about that mass murder's deeds either.


that may be because most historians think those never happened. as far as I know, there's just one book on this and it's highly disputed.
hard to make a judgment on this, 75 years later, with poor documentation and no whitnesses making any accusations at all.


Some people deny the Holocaust ever happened. 8)

There is a documented plan for poisoning the water supply of large German cities, with the intention of murdering millions of men, women and children, indiscriminately.
It was decided that a man-made famine, with Red Cross food parcels left on the trains to rot and denying prisoners of war the designation of P.O.W so the Geneva Convention rulz didn't have to be adhered to, was a better way to go. 8)

I use life experience, critical thinking skills, and my knowledge of human psychology. 8)

Quote:
'An Eye for an Eye': The Jews Who Sought to Poison Six Million Germans to Avenge the Holocaust

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.pr ... -1.8094962


yes, there were those plans.
but my grandparents all were Nazis. one of my grandfathers was a POW in Russia at the age of 16. But I have never heard anyone - in person or in the media - speak about the Americans treating Germans particularly badly. Not even the Neo-Nazis, who both deny the Holocaust and simultaneously say the bombing of Dresden was just as bad.
Quite literally the only source of this claim is a contested book I stumbled across on the internet one day.

I think relying on one's experience of human psychology is an inadequate approach to determine historical events like the supposed murder of up to a million people. I demand some less contingent indicators.


Quote:
Morgenthau wanted not only subdivide Germany into smaller parts, he wanted to wreck all of its industrial capabilities. In order to keep Germans from making armaments, he wanted to keep them from making anything at all. Industrial facilities were to be destroyed, mines were to be wrecked and filled, experts in production and manufacturing would be forcibly removed from the region and put to work elsewhere. Germany was going to become an agrarian state, set back almost a thousand years.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/popular/ ... many-wwii/

Quote:
One of the people who hated Germany and wanted to take it out for good was Secretary of the Treasury Henry Morgenthau, Jr. — and he was almost President of the United States.

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-us- ... ?r=AU&IR=T

Quote:

Morgenthau Plan - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Morgenthau_Plan

An investigation by Herbert Hoover concluded the plan would result in up to 25 million Germans starving to death. From 1947, US policies aimed at restoring a "stable and productive Germany" and were soon followed by the Marshall Plan.


Quote:
God, I hate the Germans.
Dwight D. Eisenhower


Quote:
Marshall saw communism as a threat to European stability. The Soviet Union’s sphere of influence increased during World War II, and tensions between Eastern and Western Europe intensified.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/marshall-plan.asp

I won't be breastfeeding anyone.
Connect the dots yourself.
I am not anyone's mother. 8)


yes, I know of the Morgenthau plan and of the Soviets being the sole reason the Americans picked the Marshall plan instead.
But you need more of an Eisenhower quote as a source for the claim of a the Americans killing a million German POWs in concentration camps.
Reason prohibits connecting these dots.


I believe a "straw man" has made us a visit. 8O
Could you cut and paste where I said millions of P.O.W.s were murdered in eisenhower's death camps? 8)


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If I'm so bad, pass me by. ;)


And one more thing,



Also, as George Carlin said, "I have no stake in the outcome." I'll stick around for the comedy.

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06 Aug 2021, 7:11 pm

Pepe wrote:
Axeman wrote:
Pepe wrote:
salad wrote:
Just went to a Native American tribal meeting where several elders were talking about their experiences in residential boarding schools

I felt like throwing up

The graphic stories of rape, abuse, sexual assault, and all types of horrific s**t I dont feel like recounting made me think "WTF, why wasnt I ever taught this in school"

I cant believe there are actually some people who think that America's history isn't that bad and that every country was this awful

Before anyone tries to pull a Godwin's Law on me for comparing America to Nazi Germany know that Hitler modeled the Holocaust based off of the American concept of Manifest Destiny and the white settlers treatment of Native Americans

I always knew America had a dark history, but I never thought America's history was this dark

As much as I used to be open about comparing Israel's treatment of Palestinians to America's treatment of Natives I'm going to stop doing that from now on because as much as I thought Palestinians had it bad what the white settlers did to the Native Americans was way worse

I'm honestly ashamed to be American now


EDIT: if I came off angry and strong its because some of the stuff discussed in the tribal meeting were very raw and very triggering, and to be honest it made me full of rage hearing how the Americans treated the Native Americans in that meeting with such callous disregard. The graphic recounting of certain rapes were very traumatizing to listen to

Jesus


When I learnt what the Amerians did to the Germans after the war, I felt the same disgust.
eisenhauer's death camps and man-made famines?
If it wasn't for the communist threat, germany would have been de-industrialised which would have meant millions of Germans wouldn't have been able to feed themselves and die.

eisenhauser was a German hater of the worst degree, but people don't talk about that mass murder's deeds either.

And here is a cheerful picture of what the marines were up to in the Pacific islands:

Image


I'm proud of my grandfather who while in the US Army took part in the smashing of Germany.


How can that be? :scratch:
*ALL* Amerians were evil, just as *ALL* Germans were.

I need to think about what you have said.
Life is only about binaries, after all, according to some. :mrgreen:


At that time there were very few good Germans and fewer good Japanese. IMO the atom bomb was the most humane way to end the war in the Pacific. A US invasion of the home islands would have resulted in far more dead Japanese.



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Axeman wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Axeman wrote:
Pepe wrote:
salad wrote:
Just went to a Native American tribal meeting where several elders were talking about their experiences in residential boarding schools

I felt like throwing up

The graphic stories of rape, abuse, sexual assault, and all types of horrific s**t I dont feel like recounting made me think "WTF, why wasnt I ever taught this in school"

I cant believe there are actually some people who think that America's history isn't that bad and that every country was this awful

Before anyone tries to pull a Godwin's Law on me for comparing America to Nazi Germany know that Hitler modeled the Holocaust based off of the American concept of Manifest Destiny and the white settlers treatment of Native Americans

I always knew America had a dark history, but I never thought America's history was this dark

As much as I used to be open about comparing Israel's treatment of Palestinians to America's treatment of Natives I'm going to stop doing that from now on because as much as I thought Palestinians had it bad what the white settlers did to the Native Americans was way worse

I'm honestly ashamed to be American now


EDIT: if I came off angry and strong its because some of the stuff discussed in the tribal meeting were very raw and very triggering, and to be honest it made me full of rage hearing how the Americans treated the Native Americans in that meeting with such callous disregard. The graphic recounting of certain rapes were very traumatizing to listen to

Jesus


When I learnt what the Amerians did to the Germans after the war, I felt the same disgust.
eisenhauer's death camps and man-made famines?
If it wasn't for the communist threat, germany would have been de-industrialised which would have meant millions of Germans wouldn't have been able to feed themselves and die.

eisenhauser was a German hater of the worst degree, but people don't talk about that mass murder's deeds either.

And here is a cheerful picture of what the marines were up to in the Pacific islands:

Image


I'm proud of my grandfather who while in the US Army took part in the smashing of Germany.


How can that be? :scratch:
*ALL* Amerians were evil, just as *ALL* Germans were.

I need to think about what you have said.
Life is only about binaries, after all, according to some. :mrgreen:


At that time there were very few good Germans and fewer good Japanese. IMO the atom bomb was the most humane way to end the war in the Pacific. A US invasion of the home islands would have resulted in far more dead Japanese.


May I ask how old you are? 8)


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If I'm so bad, pass me by. ;)


And one more thing,



Also, as George Carlin said, "I have no stake in the outcome." I'll stick around for the comedy.

"A stranger is a friend gang-stalker you haven't met yet."
Truth may be inconvenient but it is never politically incorrect...The Oracle of Truth has spoken...8)
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When I learnt what the Amerians did to the Germans after the war, I felt the same disgust.
eisenhauer's death camps and man-made famines?
[...]

eisenhauser was a German hater of the worst degree, but people don't talk about that mass murder's deeds either.




I believe a "straw man" has made us a visit. 8O
Could you cut and paste where I said millions of P.O.W.s were murdered in eisenhower's death camps? 8)


the only historical claim about Eisenhower being responsible for any reasonable amount of deaths is some book that claims a million Germans might have been starved by the Americans after the war. It is highly disputed.
In all other accounts, a few thousand died, hardly justifying calling Eisenhower a mass murderer, given the situation.


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