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12 Oct 2021, 2:03 pm

In all of the USA except a small handful of Nevada counties prostitution is illegal. The laws against it are inefficient, ineffective, and probably unconstitutional. They serve only to make the activity, which is practiced widely, more dangerous by making it controlled by criminals and giving those involved little legal recourse. Like drugs it's unstoppable, and the laws are almost unenforceable except by means of entrapment stings. These stings consume tremendous police resources for a small handful of arrests which do nothing to stop the activity. It's like putting a small shot glass under a waterfall. You filled it up so what big deal. As long as there are men there will always be men looking to buy sex, and as long as there are women there will always be women willing to sell it.



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12 Oct 2021, 3:12 pm

Ya i never quite understood why its illegal because I am have libertarian leanings.I dont know why drugs have to be banned either.I think a lot of good could be done if "vice"s were legal everywhere in the country.



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12 Oct 2021, 3:13 pm

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Ya i never quite understood why its illegal because I am have libertarian leanings.I dont know why drugs have to be banned either.I think a lot of good could be done if "vice"s were legal everywhere in the country.


Amen my brother.

It's illegal in the US for the same reasons alcohol once was and the laws came into being around the same time.



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12 Oct 2021, 3:20 pm

What you are actually saying is that your morals have become so erroded in America that you are having to legalize criminal activity because too many people have turned to crime as a way of life? What a failure of a country you have and live in!


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12 Oct 2021, 3:29 pm

Mountain Goat wrote:
What you are actually saying is that your morals have become so erroded in America that you are having to legalize criminal activity because too many people have turned to crime as a way of life? What a failure of a country you have and live in!

You should never do that. When you reach that point you toughen up the penaulty so that people will fear for their lives if they even think about being involved in crime.

If the people have let go of their morals, it is time for drastic action, not give in! What is the USA today? A third world country or a leading empire?

While I realize that things are not so simple and many need help, take a look at the countries that carry the death penaulty for crimes like this both for the prostitue and for the customer who has paid for the prostitute. Look how little prostitution goes on in those countries. I am not saying this is the answer as I am one who wants people to change so people need to have a chance to change and also to have their issues sorted out.


I don't see prostitution as immoral and I'm certainly not for killing people for it. That's just nuts, and prostitution exists everywhere even in such screwed up places.

It's fully legal in the UK, Canada, and Australia. It works and would here.



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12 Oct 2021, 3:31 pm

Mountain Goat wrote:
What you are actually saying is that your morals have become so erroded in America that you are having to legalize criminal activity because too many people have turned to crime as a way of life? What a failure of a country you have and live in!


Btw where are you? Afghanistan?



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12 Oct 2021, 3:31 pm

It is not legal in Britain. Certainly not!


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12 Oct 2021, 3:33 pm

I'm glad I quoted you before you took out your desire to execute people involved in prostitution. Shows how beyond pale you are.



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12 Oct 2021, 3:34 pm

Mountain Goat wrote:
It is not legal in Britain. Certainly not!


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostit ... ed_Kingdom



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12 Oct 2021, 3:41 pm

Axeman wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
It is not legal in Britain. Certainly not!


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostit ... ed_Kingdom


Well that js another law the EU imposed on us that needs addressing.

The stupid EU changed many of our laws on purpose just before we had Brexit and put a stipulation that we had to abide by them for so many years.

That is something that needs changing back.

Put it this way. As a man. Would you go to a random steanger and pay for sex? If you do there is something morally wrong with you and here is why.
Firstly you are degrading yourself by paying for it as you are worth more then that.
Secondly you will be the reason why the sex industry exists.

Here in the UK the sex industry is a horrible one of slavery where women and men (It is not just women) have to sell themselves to pay for drug habbits etc. Very few people involved have no drug or alcohol addictions.
It is a dirty degrading industry that perverts the sanctity of sex.


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12 Oct 2021, 3:44 pm

Mountain Goat wrote:
Axeman wrote:
Mountain Goat wrote:
It is not legal in Britain. Certainly not!


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostit ... ed_Kingdom


Well that js another law the EU imposed on us that needs addressing.

The stupid EU changed many of our laws on purpose just before we had Brexit and put a stipulation that we had to abide by them for so many years.

That is something that needs changing back.

Put it this way. As a man. Would you go to a random steanger and pay for sex? If you do there is something morally wrong with you and here is why.
Firstly you are degrading yourself by paying for it as you are worth more then that.
Secondly you will be the reason why the sex industry exists.

Here in the UK the sex industry is a horrible one of slavery where women and men (It is not just women) have to sell themselves to pay for drug habbits etc. Very few people involved have no drug or alcohol addictions.
It is a dirty degrading industry that perverts the sanctity of sex.


I'm married and would never seek the services of a whore. However the industry will never not exist, isn't all like what you describe, and has been going on since before we were human. Chimps trade meat for sex it's well documented.



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12 Oct 2021, 3:51 pm

I agree that it should be legalized. There will always be a demand for sex workers, and legalizing it (or perhaps decriminalizing it) would simply make it safer for sex workers and their clients. Removing some of the taboo associated with sex work could do the world a lot of good too.

I don't understand how pornography is legal but prostitution isn't. Side note: I don't understand taboos associated with sex in general. I have no idea how there is so much shame surrounding a natural act between two consenting adults (which happens to involve payment).


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12 Oct 2021, 3:53 pm

I agree that it should be legal. It being illegal prevents the men and women doing the prostitution from reporting when they're assaulted, robbed, etc. out of fear of being arrested, and forces them to put themselves in dangerous situations to avoid being caught. Those things are my main concern.



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12 Oct 2021, 3:53 pm

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I agree that it should be legal. It being illegal prevents the men and women doing the prostitution from reporting when they're assaulted, robbed, etc. out of fear of being arrested, and forces them to put themselves in dangerous situations to avoid being caught. Those things are my main concern.


100 percent agree.


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12 Oct 2021, 3:54 pm

Flown wrote:
I agree that it should be legalized. There will always be a demand for sex workers, and legalizing it (or perhaps decriminalizing it) would simply make it safer for sex workers and their clients. Removing some of the taboo associated with sex work could do the world a lot of good too.

I don't understand how pornography is legal but prostitution isn't. Side note: I don't understand taboos associated with sex in general. I have no idea how there is so much shame surrounding a natural act between two consenting adults (which happens to involve payment).


In porn the person paying isn't the one having sex.

The shame and etc comes from Abrahamic religions in which your eldest son inherited all you had so you had to be very sure your kids were in fact your biological offspring. Hence the value placed on virgins and etc.



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12 Oct 2021, 3:55 pm

HeroOfHyrule wrote:
I agree that it should be legal. It being illegal prevents the men and women doing the prostitution from reporting when they're assaulted, robbed, etc. out of fear of being arrested, and forces them to put themselves in dangerous situations to avoid being caught. Those things are my main concern.


Totally agreed.