Are "corporate~democrats" actualy true democrats ?

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25 Aug 2021, 1:40 am

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25 Aug 2021, 2:40 am

Too vague to respond to.

Problem one: Youre a Dutch person, and not an American. But its sounds like youre commenting upon American politics.

Do you mean "the Democratic Party" of the USA? Or do you mean something else by the term "democrat"?



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25 Aug 2021, 8:28 am

They're Democrats, just not liberals like they claim to be.


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27 Aug 2021, 2:40 am

naturalplastic wrote:
Too vague to respond to.

Problem one: Youre a Dutch person, and not an American. But its sounds like youre commenting upon American politics.

Do you mean "the Democratic Party" of the USA? Or do you mean something else by the term "democrat"?


I mean it in general.
In the picture 2 corporate-democrats, and the person on the right side is a corporate-socialist.

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18 Sep 2021, 12:44 am

"Lobbyism is no democratie"

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30 Sep 2021, 12:38 pm

Corporate means away from the people's hand. Do not believe anything corporate, as a corporation has no body and no soul, which makes it free to do sin at will.



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22 Feb 2022, 5:18 am

I think such accusations tend to come from dissatisfied leftists who know they are unhappy but aren’t able to articulate genuine grievances so just fall back on cliches. All humans do this to some extent.

The Netherlands is below the European average for restrictions around political financing and financial disclosure. That being said, in practice it has relatively small amounts of money in politics, only about €2.50 per adult. So while more transparency might be beneficial for increasing trust in politics, it seems unlikely that donors are significantly shaping Dutch politics.



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22 Feb 2022, 12:39 pm

Yes, that's the ideology of the Democratic Party.


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22 Feb 2022, 12:44 pm

Im not a registered Democrat for a reason….



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20 Jun 2022, 7:59 am

DINO= Democrat in name only.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_in_Name_Only

In my part of the planet are also a lot of Dino's



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22 Jun 2022, 3:02 pm

I don't really consider anyone to be a "True" or "False" Democrat/Republican. Those labels just refer to membership in or ideological alignment with a certain party. The parties change their ideologies over the years, and that ideology is influenced by those who are part of that party or its constituents--among other factors.

Democrats have spent the last several decades being an anti-socialist, pro-capital liberal party. It strikes me as very odd to call such a person a DINO when just 10 years ago it was *much* more frowned upon for a politician to openly identify as a socialist.

It's an insult that suggests that True Democrats exist--a label which is used by primarily leftists who act like the Democrat Party has been primarily a vehicle for socialism and progressivism which...it has not. I'm a leftist and I roll my eyes at leftists who act like the Democrat Party is deserving of respect.


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