Preacher says the word "Dominion" belongs to Christianity.

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24 Jan 2022, 11:54 pm

Genisis 27-11

"Behold. My brother Esau is a hairy man. But I am a smooth man".




So now you know!

From now on you cant use the word "hairy" because it "belongs to Christianity".



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25 Jan 2022, 12:34 am

naturalplastic wrote:
Genisis 27-11

"Behold. My brother Esau is a hairy man. But I am a smooth man".




So now you know!

From now on you cant use the word "hairy" because it "belongs to Christianity".


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26 Jan 2022, 1:13 am

Fnord wrote:
How exactly is Iran using its nuclear capability to hold the world hostage?


Uh.... I'm not sure if you're joking or being sarcastic or just misinformed, but Iran does not and has never had nuclear weapons. Israel is the only middle-eastern country with nukes.

Here's a list of all the countries that have nuclear weapons.
China
France
India
Israel
North Korea
Pakistan
Russia
United States of America
United Kingdom

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Dominionist Christianity is white supremacy. You can tell that their agenda is white supremacy because if you're anti-racist, they will accuse you of being anti-Christian.
Exactly how often has this happened to you?

What, how often have I been called "anti-Christian" or "anti-American"? Uh... Pretty much every day of high school, for starters? I'm an immigrant Muslim, I don't have to try very hard to make white racists upset.



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26 Jan 2022, 12:00 pm



Hmm, SPeaKinG of "a Few wafers short of a full Communion service;"

Religious, Traditional, Tribal Specific Behavior; Like Suggesting The Rarified
Abstract Construct Word Created By Humans, "Dominion," Belongs to Christianity

Is No More Short in 'Wafers' of A 'FULL COMMUNION SERVICE' THAN SUGGESTING THAT

THE STORY OF A DUDE NAMED

JESUS IS THE ONLY GOD

AND IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THAT
YOU WILL BURN IN HELL IN ALL CAPS, hehe...

Don't Believe Everything 'You' Hear in Stories.

-me

And Famous Religious Philosopher Comparatively
Speaking With All Religions; Yes, Alan Watts From Last
Century, Suggesting That A Greatest Danger of Religion

Is Rarified Abstract Constructs As Any Story This Way May
Become Gospel Truth as Religion; Yuck, Even Presently the

'Religion of
Trumpism'
That Still Persists
For Just This Reason As Well;
The Rarified Abstract Constructs
of His 'Story/Religion'; And Like 'PT Barnum' Suggested

From Circus Days Still, There is A 'S88KeR Born Every Minute'

Just Waiting to Swallow the Whole Bait, Sinker, And Hook of the Next 'Grift'...

True, Not Much Different really, than the 'Grift' of Psychic Readings As Such too;
It's 'the Story' That Counts

Most Now For Whoever

'Buys' 'The Story' Next
in All The Ways Humans
Rarify Abstract Constructs of
Stories; Yes, Religions; Yes, Politics;
Yes, Philosophies; Yes, Traditions; Yes ALL CuLTuRES

Every Damn
Last One

of them
Constructed
As Nightmares
Through Dreams

of Hell Thru Purgatory
Thru HeLL ON EartH Now;

And By God Yes Heaven Now too;

Even the Falsehoods We Convince
Ourselves of Without Much Help from
Anyone Else, Yet This Tool of Language

That is Already Pandora Released Out of Every Box of Tradition Now...

This is Common; This is Human Changing Culture; This is Part of Basic Human Nature
That Ain't Goin' Away (Until We All Do) As Alan Watts Suggested A 'Cure to the issue' Would

Be to Ceremonially

Burn the Christian
Bible at Easter Every
Year, For He Saw it as A Very
Dangerous Book/Tool Used to Harm
Folks From Slaves to Women to All of Nature

Still Now As Interpreted Under Dominion And Control
Now; Sure, Similar to Limiting Reproductive Freedoms for

All Who Are Concerned Now too; Yet Alan Watts Was Incorrect
About that Solving the Problem As The Devil You already know

May Not Be nearly As

Dangerous As the 'Trumpism';
The Stalinism; or the Adolphism;

or the Nextism That Will Naturally Come Next,

DarK Thru LiGHT; Dreams Thru Nightmares; Heaven
And HeLL And

Purgatory

Still Revealed

on Earth As 'The Folks'

From 'the Night Motels Spread
Out into Broad Daylight' With No Shame or Regret At All

For the Harm They Bring to the Rest of Our Species and Other Species too....

A 'Great' Example of this is when the Head Priest of The Catholic Church i Visit And
Study As A Free Lance Participatory Free Verse Anthropology Longest Form Poet Was Whining About
Gay/LGBQT+ Folks Appropriating the 'Rainbow Symbol' And 'Christian Trademark Rainbows' In General

Away From

'Noah' Who the
Priest Believes Literally Existed And The Fictional
Story Actually Happened About 'the Ark and Flood'
And 'Rainbow Story Coming After That' Speaking
For The Catholic Church That Christianity
Still Owns a Trademark on Rainbows Now;

And THere i Am Just Listening to 'the Live
Stream' Safe From A Deadly Pandemic
Peak Away From Visiting the Church

Unmasked Without Regard to
the Sanctity of Breathing Life

With A Face Palm Forest Thick
That He Was Worried More About
Gay Folks Using Rainbows Than Holding

The Church Attendees to a Rule Enforced
of Wearing Masks to Protect Others in the Peak of
a Deadly Pandemic Along With All the Non-Sense

of Protecting Non-Breathing Life More than Supporting
Single Mothers With Tax Supported Benefits For the Sanctity of
Breathing Life...

Yet Again,

Go Figure,

This is the Human
Condition As Is;

There Are No
Guarantees

Or Warranties

For the Used Lemons
Without Lemonade Still;

Humans, Both Individually
And Group Oriented Now in
Ignorance Co-Create That Harms
Others and The Rest of Nature Now...

It's Like Baking A Cake; Somedays it Rises; Somedays it Falls; Ending Or Beginning

Again; Yet Again, 'the Devil' We aRe Already Knowing And Into May Be Better Than
the Next 'Trumpism' (Christianity, Really Didn't Need A Spoiled Rotten Trump As An
Additional Ingredient
to Further Rot)

to Develop...

As Far as
The Next
'Dominion' That Comes...

Yawn, Modern Cultures Now
Bring the Opportunity For So
Many 'New Dominions' (Sub-CuLTuRES) of Control
Through Newly Developed Abstract (Stories)
Constructs for Every S88KeR Born Per Minute
to Consume..

-Burp

Yes, Like 'A Child'
i BurP it All Up And Dispose oF iT With 'GLoVES'...

And sure, Like Everyone Else, in Individual And or
Group Ways, Creating my 'Own
Dominion(S)' Now;

That Is/Are
Basically

Just The
'Selfie' And
'Facebook Profile Pic Bible Dancing Singing Free Verse Ongoing
Long Form Poem(s)' i Create as Just A Subchapter in 56 Months
Of 6 MiLLioN Words of 10.1 MiLLioN Word "SonG oF mY SoUL"
Long Form Poem Bible Fully Illustrated in 101 Months; Yes, of Course
As 'Instagrams'
Grow
Glow

too...

HeHe...

Don't Fool Yourself (Not,
'You' in Particular Alone);
We aRe aLL Part of Our or
Someone Else's Story(s)/

'Dominion(S)' Now...

Yawn, Again i
Create my Own
And Burp The Rest up...

Fascinating 'Article' For Most
Interesting Days to Exist AND ThriVE iNdeed NoW...

And Really Better Advice Than Burning Old Bibles
as Suggested By Alan Watts, The Philosopher of Last
Century As What Walt Whitman the Free Verse Poet
True too, Suggested Long Before

That (And me) Write Your Own

Bible, Be Your Own
Priest of the
'Kosmos'

Now

Live And
Thrive And

Let Others Do
Do What They Do Best too...

Just A Rhetorical Question,
So What 'Dominion' Do 'You'
Fall Under or Rise Above Now...

Is It Your Story Or Does Someone
Own You Now With Their Story...

Per
'Their
Dominion(s)' Still...

Yes/No, Which Author(s)
Do You Bow Down to... Now...

Do You Rise or Fall Down... Now...
Below Another Author's 'Rule of Dominion(s)'...

It's Absolutely True, Some Folks Are Complete
Slaves Under the 'Dominion(s) of Christianity' Still

or at
Least
A Story(s)
They Co-Create Now For Real,
Always Changing With Every Inhale
of Peace Exhale of Love For ALL DarK

Thru LiGHT or So Much Less... Less... Now...



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26 Jan 2022, 5:31 pm

And forget about ever talking about the latest digital tech ever again!






Genisis 22-13

"The Lord will provide the RAM."



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26 Jan 2022, 7:00 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
And forget about ever talking about the latest digital tech ever again!






Genisis 22-13

"The Lord will provide the RAM."


:lol: :lol: :lol:


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We can start a discussion on nuclear weapons in Middle East if you want, in a separate thread.


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27 Jan 2022, 9:17 am

Thanks, Magz!

The topic is: "Preacher says the word 'Dominion' belongs to Christianity."

Has anyone else run into people claiming their religion allegedly "owns" certain stories, words, and concepts?



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27 Jan 2022, 10:57 am

The "dominion" perspective arose out of a Reformed / Calvinist branch of Christianity.

In a way it is a little like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day when he is struck by the thought that his predicament was the result of the groundhog, "He has to be stopped, and I'm the one to do it".

...Let me explain.

When approaching Christianity, one might ask, "What about the Jews?". Since most of the bible describes the history and prophecy to the nation of Israel, this question would seem to loom large.

The reformed / Calvinist perspective frequently denies that the church has replaced Israel, but the theology essentially takes this view. As a result, some come to see themselves as assuming the mission of Israel (to be a nation of priests, presumably to bring the knowledge of God to the whole world) and add to it an ego inflating perspective seen with some environmentalists to "save the world".

I hold to a different branch of Christianity that sees a future and restored role for the nation of Israel after the events described in Revelation take place.

The idea of "dominion" originates with Genesis in that man was originally created to have dominion over the earth. This was lost when man used his free will to choose a path apart from God. I am not sure how the dominionists conclude that they have now come to the point where they can assume dominion over the earth.

There was 2000 years of the nation of Israel failing at almost every point. Then there has been almost 2000 years of the Christian church similarly demonstrating failure (we were supposed to become like Christ, instead we built cathedrals, engaged in politics and war, grew rich, and wallowed in pride).

One would think that even a cursory interest in truth would lead to a deep humility. While there have been individuals in both Israel and the church that were humble, sought truth, and honored God, many have allowed themselves to stray far from truth.

A dominionist is similar to a liberal who sees mankind evolving to a more noble state. There is nothing to support such a view other than the wish it were true. Fed by self-righteousness and a sense of purpose, one has little hope of having a rational conversation with them.



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27 Jan 2022, 5:16 pm

timf wrote:
The "dominion" perspective arose out of a Reformed / Calvinist branch of Christianity.

In a way it is a little like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day when he is struck by the thought that his predicament was the result of the groundhog, "He has to be stopped, and I'm the one to do it".

...Let me explain.

When approaching Christianity, one might ask, "What about the Jews?". Since most of the bible describes the history and prophecy to the nation of Israel, this question would seem to loom large.

The reformed / Calvinist perspective frequently denies that the church has replaced Israel, but the theology essentially takes this view. As a result, some come to see themselves as assuming the mission of Israel (to be a nation of priests, presumably to bring the knowledge of God to the whole world) and add to it an ego inflating perspective seen with some environmentalists to "save the world".

I hold to a different branch of Christianity that sees a future and restored role for the nation of Israel after the events described in Revelation take place.

The idea of "dominion" originates with Genesis in that man was originally created to have dominion over the earth. This was lost when man used his free will to choose a path apart from God. I am not sure how the dominionists conclude that they have now come to the point where they can assume dominion over the earth.

There was 2000 years of the nation of Israel failing at almost every point. Then there has been almost 2000 years of the Christian church similarly demonstrating failure (we were supposed to become like Christ, instead we built cathedrals, engaged in politics and war, grew rich, and wallowed in pride).

One would think that even a cursory interest in truth would lead to a deep humility. While there have been individuals in both Israel and the church that were humble, sought truth, and honored God, many have allowed themselves to stray far from truth.

A dominionist is similar to a liberal who sees mankind evolving to a more noble state. There is nothing to support such a view other than the wish it were true. Fed by self-righteousness and a sense of purpose, one has little hope of having a rational conversation with them.


As a Lutheran, I don't agree with everything you posted, as my faith is Amillennialist and teaches that the term "Israel" refers to faith rather than bloodline, making the Church it's spiritual successor, as well. I certainly don't agree with your stance that Dominionism in any way resembles liberalism, especially as it's weighed in on the far right end of the political scale. But I certainly agree that Dominionism is not an orthodox theology.


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27 Jan 2022, 6:06 pm

Fnord wrote:
Has anyone else run into people claiming their religion allegedly "owns" certain stories, words, and concepts?

Yeah. Morality. Also science.

E.g. "Objective morality comes from God. All other morality is subjective and subjective morality is no morality at all".

E.g. "Christians invented science" as though that gives them ownership of science.

On a related note, I've also run into creationists acting like they own Christianity. They ignore the fact that loads of Christians believe in evolution (including modern day scientists who are Christians) act like only atheists believe in evolution.


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31 Jan 2022, 1:29 am

Here's a little something about Christian Nationalism, but it has mention of Dominionism:

https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/how- ... D8l5mkZJ4s


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23 Mar 2022, 12:15 am

timf wrote:
The idea of "dominion" originates with Genesis in that man was originally created to have dominion over the earth. This was lost when man used his free will to choose a path apart from God. I am not sure how the dominionists conclude that they have now come to the point where they can assume dominion over the earth.

Guess it could be less a matter of a studied conclusion and more a matter of pride and ego.

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There was 2000 years of the nation of Israel failing at almost every point. Then there has been almost 2000 years of the Christian church similarly demonstrating failure (we were supposed to become like Christ, instead we built cathedrals, engaged in politics and war, grew rich, and wallowed in pride).

Yep, gamers gonna game, gamers of the system gonna game the system, sinners gonna sin, and human nature ain't gonna fix itself.

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One would think that even a cursory interest in truth would lead to a deep humility. While there have been individuals in both Israel and the church that were humble, sought truth, and honored God, many have allowed themselves to stray far from truth.

Even though how much it matters may be debatable it could be interesting to know how many drifted astray while only partly aware of their drift versus how many made a deliberate willful decision to stray in order to achieve personal goals.


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23 Mar 2022, 4:24 am

timf wrote:
A dominionist is similar to a liberal who sees mankind evolving to a more noble state. There is nothing to support such a view other than the wish it were true.

Perhaps not "more noble," but indeed less violent. At least in the West, we've become much less violent over the past 800 years or so. See, for example, Long-term Historical Trends in Violent Crime. Of course our countries are still far from completely nonviolent, and of course there have been some extremely violent episodes during just the past 100 years or so, but, nevertheless, there has indeed been progress overall.


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