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19 Jun 2022, 11:50 am

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This year, India has banned food exports.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-61590756
It seems they are open to making exceptions to this ban, though.

Only wheat. Some of my sources also mentioned sugar. But there seems to be no more categories.
Agriculture and Food Industry and Exports
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India is one of the largest agricultural products exporters in the world. During 2021-22, the country crossed US$ 50 billion in agriculture exports with a 19.92% increase from US$ 41.87 billion in 2020-21. It exports rice, meat, grains, wheat, nuts, onions, fruits, pulses, dairy products, alcoholic beverages, cereals, cashews, vegetables, etc.

Rice is the largest exported agricultural product from India and contributed to more than 17% of the total agriculture export during the year 2021-22. Buffalo meat, wheat and maize are among the largest exported products with the contribution of 6%, 4% and 2% to 2021-22 agriculture exports respectively.

India is not a big exporter of wheat, and its exports will account for only 3% of the world in 2021. I doubt it will be decisive.

This is more because this year's extreme weather has hit India's total agricultural production.
I am not familiar with the varieties of crops grown in India. But generally speaking, wheat cuts down production more than rice in high temperature.


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19 Jun 2022, 12:09 pm

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Putin was wrong about US food exports.
https://www.usda.gov/media/press-releas ... cords-2021

Yes, China and the United States have always been important trading partners in soybeans - accounting for 34.4% of China's total soybean imports and about 60% of the total U.S. soybean exports.

And also rice from my state.
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/202 ... kansas-to/


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19 Jun 2022, 1:44 pm

Misslizard wrote:
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Putin was wrong about US food exports.
https://www.usda.gov/media/press-releas ... cords-2021

Yes, China and the United States have always been important trading partners in soybeans - accounting for 34.4% of China's total soybean imports and about 60% of the total U.S. soybean exports.

And also rice from my state.
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/202 ... kansas-to/

Is there a big market for long-grained rice in China?


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19 Jun 2022, 2:07 pm

/\ I suppose, they wouldn’t purchase it otherwise.It’s not a sticky type rice ,so would probably depend on regional cuisine.


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19 Jun 2022, 10:45 pm

MaxE wrote:
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Misslizard wrote:
Putin was wrong about US food exports.
https://www.usda.gov/media/press-releas ... cords-2021

Yes, China and the United States have always been important trading partners in soybeans - accounting for 34.4% of China's total soybean imports and about 60% of the total U.S. soybean exports.

And also rice from my state.
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/202 ... kansas-to/

Is there a big market for long-grained rice in China?

Long-grain rice is produced in South China and short-grain rice is produced in North China. Their market roughly corresponds to the place of origin.

I am not very sure about the status of imported rice from the United States in the Chinese market. According to the information introduced in this article, it is likely to be used as a variety adjustment. Previously, China's high-end varieties of rice mainly came from Thailand and Japan. There are several high-end varieties of rice in Northeast China, but they can not meet the needs of the whole country.

China's traditional rice import sources are Southeast Asia and Pakistan. One part is "broken rice", which is used as chicken feed or raw material for making wine or noodles. They have a price advantage over domestic rice.


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19 Jun 2022, 11:49 pm

In Europe, the dominant supplier of rice is Italy.
Even sushi rice of Japanese-sounding brands have little "made in Italy" label in local supermarkets.


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20 Jun 2022, 7:03 am

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What does that have to do with anything? :scratch:
A consideration to join NATO doesn't have an expiry date.


It looks bad for NATO though, because Ukraine was trying to join or considering, and then NATO decides to not allow them to join, in time of need now, if I understand it correct.



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20 Jun 2022, 7:18 am

France and Germany blocked Ukraine and Georgia from joining NATO back in 2008 - probably for the sake of their relationships with Russia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Bucharest_summit
In August the same year, Russia attacked Georgia.

Generally:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E ... _relations


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20 Jun 2022, 8:34 am

Ukraine received a significant boost on Friday (2022-06-17) when the European Commission recommended it for candidate status, a decision EU nations are expected to endorse at a summit this week.

That would put Ukraine on course to realise an aspiration seen as out of reach before Russia’s Feb. 24 invasion, even if membership could take years.


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20 Jun 2022, 8:54 am

Very proud that my state is helping.
https://governor.arkansas.gov/news-medi ... eapons-com


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20 Jun 2022, 8:59 am

Dworczyk is a politically controversive figure but when he's assigned to solve a problem, he's effective.
His previous big assignment was building a system for distributing covid vaccines and he did it well.

Now he's assigned to do what's possible to help with grain exports.
https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/po ... oods-31175
Ten days, doubled capacity for motor cargo traffic with Ukraine.
I hope he keeps working.


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20 Jun 2022, 9:47 am

Ever heard of Suwałki Gap?
An idillic place:
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where some 100km of sparsely populated (and really beautiful) NATO territory separates Russian Kaliningrad District from Belarus.

As Lithuania has closed transit of Russian goods citing EU sanctions, Kremlin started to send open threats.

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"If in the near future cargo transit between the Kaliningrad region and the rest of the territory of the Russian Federation through Lithuania is not restored in full, then Russia reserves the right to take actions to protect its national interests," the ministry said.
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-lithuani ... 06501.html

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A move by Russia on Poland or Lithuania would clearly trigger NATO’s Article 5 mutual defense provision, immediately pulling in all the alliance’s members — from Turkey to Bulgaria to France and the United States.

At least in theory. How eager would Washington and NATO be to risk Armageddon over a stretch of largely unpopulated farmland few of their citizens even know exists? It’s exactly the kind of edge case that Putin has proved eager to test.
https://www.politico.eu/article/suwalki ... nd-border/


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20 Jun 2022, 11:29 am

Attention, Kremlin has a new narrative!
There's no special military operation in Ukraine. Repeat. There's no special military operation in Ukraine.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/youll-nev ... p-with-now


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21 Jun 2022, 12:34 pm

^^ Continuation on Suwałki Gap:
https://www.politico.eu/article/russia- ... liningrad/

It's pretty tense.
If NATO territory was to be drawn into direct fights, it would likely be there.

What I think should be done now:
Loudly and visibly place some American NATO units in the Suwałki region. Any units, just loud and visible, because their purpose would be sending a message: if you attack here, you don't attack some picturesque meadows, you attack US Army.

I wonder if they do it this way. That's what I would recommend if I was in any position to give advice on such decisions.


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21 Jun 2022, 2:40 pm

magz wrote:
^^ Continuation on Suwałki Gap:
https://www.politico.eu/article/russia- ... liningrad/

It's pretty tense.
If NATO territory was to be drawn into direct fights, it would likely be there.

What I think should be done now:
Loudly and visibly place some American NATO units in the Suwałki region. Any units, just loud and visible, because their purpose would be sending a message: if you attack here, you don't attack some picturesque meadows, you attack US Army.

I wonder if they do it this way. That's what I would recommend if I was in any position to give advice on such decisions.


This testing of Russia is only testing NATO.

Lithuania may get an unfortunate surprise that the US will not directly fight for it.

Its an open secret of the cold war that the US would not have lost NewYork / Washington for W Germany, after W Germany it was just a short drive to Nuclear France & UK that could defend themselves if attacked.

Anyone who denies this lacks survival logic

The US cant defend Lithuania as the supply lines are too far and forces too small and the US will not destroy itself in attacking Russia directly in defence of Lithuania.

If Lithuania is attacked & US do nothing it will destroy NATO and make Europe more a more dangerous place so not a great move.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zV8GbhSLWXM


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22 Jun 2022, 1:31 am

I don't think supply lines to Lithuania would be a problem. Supply lines to landlocked Afghanistan are worse and don't go through allies' territories - and NATO managed to fight 20 years of war there.

Poland would certainly go to Lithuania's aid because it's a question of survival for us - and, in addition, we would do everything to drag the rest of NATO into it.
Having seen that Ukraine is able to fight roughly balanced war with Russia, Baltic states + Poland would be capable of the same. NATO is not just USA - but USA and Britain are probably trigger happy enough to join us there.

Actually, I think we really shouldn't underestimate Britain here. They're already using the crisis to leverage their geopolitical position against the rest of Europe. If US stepped down not defending Lithuania, Britain would probably jump the opportunity of becoming the new Sheriff Nation.

But right now, making US Army visible in the critical points of Lithuania would likely prevent all this from becoming reality. Russians love to threat those they find weak but cower before those they find strong. Opening another front right now would be a suicide and they know it.


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