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^^Nazis in the Ukraine is not propaganda, there is a far-right battalion in the Ukrainian military that have been identified as such by the U.S. Congress.

What’s keeping you on the side of the Russians?

Look, if you say something that factually incorrect, I will correct it. I'm on the side of truth. I'm on the side of a negotiated peace before more corpses pile up. The truth is there is a Nazi element in the Military. That's not saying it's a Nazi government, alright? I'm against all invasions of this sort.

I'm trying to be nice, but you're making it increasingly difficult.

You don’t think there’s a neo-Nazi element in the Russian army?

I’m always nice…..no matter what.

It’s not a fact that there were Ukrainian soldiers lined up along the Russian border. There was no reason, as far as I’m concerned, for the Russians to invade Ukraine.

Your “niceness” or “nastiness” to me won’t affect how I feel about the situation.

No, as far as I know there are no neo Nazis in the Russian army. They are, of course, following the orders of an authoritarian leader.

Of course there was a reason. I've explained the reason, right or wrong. I don't expect you to change how you feel about the conflict. I do expect you to follow the conversation and not make ridiculous assumptions. That's not too much to ask, is it?

-Prigozhin's Wagner supplies are being cut by Russian army.
(Politics is more important than military efficiency.)
-Russia lost 50% of its MODERN tanks. (Half of 1,800 tanks.)

Wrong, it IS that simple.
Russia is not being threatened.
Its forces in Ukraine are.

pootin invalidly created a referendum so he could CLAIM Russian territory was being attacked, thus giving pootin justification to use nuclear force to protect Russian soil.
NOBODY took that farce seriously, hopefully not even you.



Where did I say any hands were klean?
I HAVE said that there is a lot of corruption in the Ukraine government, for one thing.

Plz don't misrepresent me.
You wouldn't like me when I defend my position.
I take no prisoners.

And as to me being Black&White in my assessments, here...
You don't know me very well.
I AM "The Oracle of Truth" after all, and you don't get to this position through B&W thinking.




Firstly, "Europe" loved pootin and Russia's energy resources, especially Germany.
Secondly, NATO's defence budget was pathetic until pootin's invasion of Ukraine.
Thirdly, pootin has the biggest nuclear armaments in the world, I believe.
Who in their right mind would want to tangle with that?
Biden was shiting his pants at the thought of it.

No one in Europe wanted war.
They wanted a kumbayah fest.
Countries joined the NATO DEFENSE agreement, not the let's attack Russia agreement.

pootin is undoubtedly a psychopathic murderer, imo.
Simply look at all the assassinations he is responsible for.
Many ppl believe when orchestrated false flag attacks on his own ppl to justify attacking other sovereign nations.
I am one of those skunks, btw.

He has klearly made it, err, klear that he wants to "Make Russia Great Again" through the subjugation of sovereign nations.
There was a reason countries joined a defensive pact and why others want to join also.



BTW, Let's be klear.
pootin is not a madman.
He is an egomaniac with a power lust that has no regard for human life.
The perfect leader, some may say.

You DO understand why EX-Soviet satellite "states" want to defend themselves from resurgent "Russian" imperialism?
You don't even have to be Einstein's dog to realise that, right?


Do you hate NATO or do you luv Russia?
What is it, Spitts or Swallows?

How about in Wagner Group?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group

I haven’t made any “ridiculous” assumptions. I’ve made very conventional “assumptions,” actually.

Your pro-Russia stance is quite evident. So what? My pro-Ukrainian stance is also evident. I don’t dispute that you don’t care for the “accumulation of corpses” and are not for all the carnage. That you want peace. Most clear-thinking people want peace.

Condescension is frequently a manifestation of an attempt to gain the rhetorical advantage. I don’t respond to it. I’m not deterred by it. I’ve had enough of it in the course of my life.

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It's analogous to what gets called Enlightened Centrism. One pretends to be neutral while also only offering significant criticisms towards one side. An occasional token criticism of their pet side might be made occasionally, but at the end of the day it's just trying to pass one's biases off as neutrality.

I have no idea who you are replying to.

You rang?

You do realise I am supporting the Democrats in the Ukraine situation and am actively against the Republicans on this issue, right?
I do do that sometimes.
I thought you would be pleased.

This subject is personal, to me, btw.

BTW, Did you come into this thread just to have a go at me?

Some concerns over media censorship in Ukraine over
1, Corruption and abuse of foreign aid
https://time.com/6249941/ukraine-corrup ... ky-russia/

2. Using civilians as human shields
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/04/11157568 ... se-to-civi

3. Spread of nazism in Ukraine
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohe ... SKBN1GV2TY

It starts to look suspicious when a foreign government attacks amnesty international which is usually a sign they are desperately trying to cover up human rights violations.

1. Corruption in Ukraine is not something censored, it's been the main problem of this country since it started to exist. A lot is being done to adress it, even more needs to be done.
A fact that information about the cases of abuse of international help are public are actually indicators corruption is being fought instead of being swept under the carpet.
2. This report has been widely criticised within Amnesty International itself. https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/u ... continues/
3. We've really been talking about these 5 years old reports before. It's like justifying razing USA to the ground because MAGAs exist (even if they were in sharp decline).

I wasn’t responding to you, Pepe. That should be obvious, since you evidently express a pro-Ukraine stance.