how many free thinkers are here?

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AG, I won't be the least bit surprised if you end up going VA Tech on someone and end up on the news giving aspies like us a bad name.

For anyone who isn't that familiar with AG's posts, this guy defends sweat shops and beating you dog for kicks, going to war for greed (blatantly and admittedly), if you people want someone to flame who deserves a good flaming, flame AG.

...and yet, he manages to do so without resorting to excessive use of "f**k". Even if he supports the 'wrong' side, at least he manages to do so in a rational manner - resorting to personal attacks doesn't leave you on the 'right' side of an argument, whatever your views.

I would define a free thinker as someone who either:

(a) Understands the TV series "The Prisoner" and can escape the Village of both their own mind and that of the society they identify with

(b) Places their philosophy under the GPL

To begin with, f**k is just a word, though perhaps I should be more careful what I say seeing as younger children could come on here and parents could get mad if their children start swearing and see they've been reading my posts.... So for that much I apologize, I do swear alot... But swear words are just words, we're allowed to say other things that mean the exact same thing.
As for personal attacks, people make personal attacks on me all the time because I'm not "liberal" enough, or I'm not "conservative" enough, or I'm "a conspiracy nut" because I've read history books and seen c-span. Rather you agree with what I have to say or not, I atleast have good intentions. But I guess it's better to flame someone with good unbiased intentions than to flame a "normal" dysfunctional (and hince "entertaining") person.

Prove that this is meritorious. Prove that this is the measure of being human. Frankly, I would argue that man cannot be liberated from himself and thus any statement of that nature is nonsense.

We already do the former, and the latter is completely contrary to the interests of most of mankind anyway. Self-serving neanderthals would never do that which is why MAD is considered a deterrent. What would it matter if I am a sociopath? If anything all this shows is that I a freer thinker than you are as I am free of the constriction of normal morality and instead act upon my own values and desires. It must be remembered that some of the most liberating minds were insane.

Let's see, I defend sweatshops as well as a few respectable economists, I defend the legal ability to do that not necessarily the morality of the action as the 2 are different, and the matter of war I believe is simply an iteration of the realist position in international relations that nations act based upon their interests. Really, none of those arguments you put forward is a sign that I deserve flaming, if anything it merely shows that I am a freer thinker as I defy respectability and convention with ease based upon my logic.

I'm not even bringing intentions into this; my point is that you villify yourself by resorting to personal attacks, irrelevant of your position. So, while I might agree with some of the things you say, I'm not going to associate myself with your argument, because of the negative way you present it. Do you see what I mean?

Your gonna grow up to be a lonely old man with no friends, one day you'll need someone's help and people will tell you to f off. When that happens, you'll see how "logical" your attitude has been. The more enemies you make, the more you dig your own grave. It's a process called "action vs. reaction".

Heh, lemme ask you a question AG..... If you were president of the United States, would you seek to overthrow democracy and become a supreme dictator?

Ok, thank goodness I don't have many enemies.

I don't think I would seek such an end, it would be dangerous to try, not only that but I am not sure that it would benefit the long run stability of the United States.

You respond to flames very graciously.

I thank you for your compliment.

What the blue hell? I get flamed all the time for saying things that might be "politically incorrect" but have merit, this guys comes on here and supports sweat shops, war for power, beating his dog for fun, exploiting starving nations for his own benefit, and he gets praised?

Is this your catholic morality gwenyvyn?

You get flamed all of the time for how you express your ideas. Really though, merit is often found in the eye of the beholder. I don't consider myself praised for being a good person, but rather simply in not being as discourteous as you are in this conversation.

How is this a matter of much morality, she didn't say I was moral, she said that she thought I was doing something well. A statement others have been kind enough to give you in this thread as well, notably the admiration in Lindarthebard for your description of society. I think she would oppose my political views, but being wrong in one area doesn't mean that one isn't right in another and I think that a catholic morality would likely appreciate that aspect given that most Christian theology does state that man is fallen and cannot be perfect.