Pastor Barnhart explains right-wing anti-abortion politics.
Canada is not the USA in this sense. I doubt that they will follow the US's lead when it comes to abortion rights.
Canada doesn't follow the USA in EVERYTHING.
One important distinction is that Canada has universal health care for all. Not even the most conservative Canadian would allow this to be gotten rid of.
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Canada doesn't follow the USA in EVERYTHING.
One important distinction is that Canada has universal health care for all. Not even the most conservative Canadian would allow this to be gotten rid of.
That's true, it just seems that when it comes to political issues, Canada has a tendency to copy the US. Like making Cannabis legal for recent example. More political things like that.
But I guess the health care system came out in the 60s before Canada started copying the US perhaps?
Canada has more of a tendency to copy the US when it comes to relatively "progressive" things.
As far as relatively conservative things----no it doesn't.
There will never be a 2nd Amendment "right to bear arms" in Canada. Hence, there never will be much of a "gun rights" debate there.
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I suspect pro-life representatives might also be supportive of family planning.
not when the more stupidly vocal of them espouses the repeal of griswold vs. connecticut 1965.
For those who think abortion is to be allowed if it puts a woman's life at a way higher risk than a pregnancy normally would but not otherwise: what about an unwanted pregnancy's effects on the woman's mental health? What if, being denied abortion, the woman gets suicidal? If there's a reason to doubt that a woman will kill herself due to the unwanted pregnancy, would it justify abortion? If there's a reason to doubt that she'd start doing risky stuff like falling down some stairs or jumping off a bridge on purpose in order to have her rights to her own body back, should abortion be allowed in your opinion?
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Ok, but now the problem is that you can justify pretty much anything for the sake of mental health. You can't realistically or reasonably live your life if you have to worry about how your actions are going to impact someone's mental health. My, oh, my, what lawsuits I'd file if that were the case!
Of course protection of mental health is an important public health issue.
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The Right to Breathing Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness;
Oh Lord How Is This Possible if Reproductive Rights Are Taken Away
in Some States Where Women Who Are Raped, Have All Their Reproductive
Rights Taken Away
Forced to Breed
A Child of A Dude
Who Violently Raped
Them as An Additional Sentence
of Evil For 9 More Months; Particularly,
If There Are No Months or Days Left At
All to Make a Decision to Terminate What
Verily Feels Like HeLL ON EartH For The Subject
Who Lost All Their Reproductive Rights So Violently Raped;
Problem with Most All Religions Designed By Dudes is the So-Called
'Golden Rule' Fails Mightily Poor When There is No Empathy of the Cognitive
Kind And Real Compassion for Do Least Harm With the Realization That Comes
From REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES
THAT DO NOT EXPERIENCE
LIFE THE WAY THAT 'YOU' DO;
SO WHILE YOU MAY NOT HAVE A UTERUS
AND THE POTENTIAL OF BEING VIOLENTLY RAPED
AND FORCED TO BREED WHAT SEEMS LIKE A MONSTER'S
FETUS MELDING WITH YOUR BODY PARTS WITHIN THAT'S NOT
THE REALITY FOR
OTHER FOLKS SO
HOW ABOUT HAVING
SOME SOUL AND NOT JUST BE
SO CALLOUS WANTING OTHERS TO
DO LIFE ONLY THE WAY YOU WANNA DO LIFE NOW...
YES, THE golden rule is really a rotten egg when it comes
to a Human Rule that Does Not Include Do Least Harm for Real...
Yawn, i Remember Playing the Piano and Singing For The Church Choir in the 80's
And Then A Very Nice Singer Who Worked For the Department of Welfare For Women
And Children Who Had Seen Real Poverty; and Mental Illness; And The Suffering that
Goes With Unwanted Children For those Who Didn't Even Have the Education or Ability
to Obtain Effective Birth Control And Other Family Planning Resources in the Real Trenches
And
Fox Holes
of Life AS Such;
Well, All She Could Do
Is Roll Her EYes AT the
Ignorance of The Church as it
Suggested to Take Away Reproductive
Rights For Women Ranging From Contraception
To Abortion; And Of Course the Delusion that Sexual
Pleasures only
are For Marriage
And Child Bearing
Purposes; Yes, Face Palm
Thick Forests Even More; Damned
Ignorance is Blind, it Just Can't See;
Ignorance Still Harms, Rapes, Maims,
And Kills As A Most Deadly Real Human Pandemic
Spreading
Still to Date...
Abortion is the Last
Practice i Will Imagine
Being in a 32-Year Happy
Marriage Barring More Life
or Death Consequences Associated
For My Wife Yet i am Human Enough 'Both
Devil And Angel' to Understand Both the
Dark and Light
of Life; You Don't
Burn People More Who
Are Already in Hell, Of Course
Unless You are the 'Trump' of An Old New Testament
And Or All of 'HIS' Followers Still True to A Real Sin of Ignorance
Still
Reigning
As A Lesser
God than Love With Least Harm; God Yes,
This is A Matter of Ethics And Morality
Separating the Good of Least Harm
From the
Evil that
Just Doesn't
Give A Damn
As Long as Real Evil Doesn't
Ruffle Any Nest Feathers at Home...
i See it as Sick as Disgusting and Just Another
Part of Human Nature And Traditional Ways Closer to
Hell Than Heaven on Earth...
Like Everything
Else in the Change
of Reality; It's All A Spectrum;
The Delusion is Life Consists
of Black And White Solutions;
So in Other Words An Only
Solution in this Scenario that
Will Possibly Work in the Long Term
of A Country With a Declaration of Independence
Proclaiming a Right to Breathing Life, Liberty and the
Pursuit of Happiness
IS FRIGGING
CHOICE;
AS THE FOLKS
WITH ANY FRIGGING
COMMON SENSE ALREADY
FIXED THE IGNORANCE ONCE FROM BEFORE;
YET, IT'S TRUE SOME FOLKS ENJOY A TRUE
INSANITY OF REPEATING THE SAME IGNORANCE;
Go Figure IT's
The Condition'
SO BLIND
IT SEEMS;
SO VERY BLIND
TO THE HARM
OTHER FOLKS EXPERIENCE
IN THEIR RIGHTS TO BREATHING
LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE pursuit of
Happiness, including what is Core of
Reproductive Freedoms that Do least harm...
Or Of Course We Can Devolve into a Third World
Country, WHere Women Are Treated As No Different than
Cattle
to Breed,
Cattle to Buy;
And Cattle to Sell
Out And Make Slaves Again...
Sure, A Place Where A Woman
Cannot Even Walk Alone Without a Designated 'Male Master'...
Those Places Still Exist And Sadly Some Folks Want them here now...
Yet Do Take Note, 66 Percent of American Folks, Still Want None of this Real Evil Ignorance.
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Of course protection of mental health is an important public health issue.
While I agree with you, an unreasonable concern for the mental health of everyone at the expense of one’s personal freedom is at least just as unhealthy. Suicidal people will ideate suicide. People who aren’t suicidal won’t. People who will hurt themselves don’t need an excuse and will do it regardless of whether they have the option to kill someone else.
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Have you heard of ectopic pregnancies where the fetus implants in the wrong place? The only treatment for that is abortion. If she is denied an abortion that is a death sentence....what does your morality say about that?
I would like "evidence" that it would happen.
It is inconceivable (pun intended) that a women would be left to die in such a situation.
It sounds like utter nonsense and I think you are hurting your argument, assuming you are incorrect.
Sorry to be so firm about my position, but as I said, something like you described is beyond *my* realm of reality.
Some anti abortion groups and people are calling for a full ban on abortion. I am not certain that it would actually occur.
Even in Texas abortions are allowed later than 6 weeks for situations like that, however it causes confusion as to when a doctor could perform it. Like in the case of ectopic pregnancies can the doctor perform an abortion once it's discovered or do they have to wait till her fallopian tube ruptures? The texas law is not clear on that.
https://www.thelily.com/the-texas-abortion-ban-has-a-medical-exception-but-some-doctors-worry-its-too-narrow-to-use/
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