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20 Jun 2022, 4:25 am

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I don't understand why among so many changes, only the "downsizing" of black characters has been obsessed.


You need to ask Disney Corp. As I said they don't make mistakes when it comes to reading the market.

A big piece of evidence of manipulation is Harrison Ford's character Han Solo (another Chinese name :lol: ) getting blown up twice the size of Finn despite Han having a small role in the series.

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So is this poster made because they have DID?

I don't understand why some Westerners think those are "Chinese names".
They seem to have nothing to do with Chinese names in Chinese eyes. Chinese characters are not phonetic. A similar pronunciation has no meaning in Chinese names. Chinese characters are not phonetic. A similar pronunciation has no meaning in Chinese names.
It is true that one of the Chinese characters corresponding to the pronunciation "Han" will be used as a surname - but it is not common. (one pronunciation usually corresponds to more than ten Chinese characters)


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20 Jun 2022, 4:33 am

SkinnedWolf wrote:
It is true that one of the Chinese characters corresponding to the pronunciation "Han" will be used as a surname - but it is not common. (one pronunciation usually corresponds to more than ten Chinese characters)


I agree it's probably a coincidence
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Kylo
Rey
Finn
BB8

All kind of sound like anime names



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20 Jun 2022, 4:37 am

SkinnedWolf wrote:
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So is this poster made because they have DID?


I have not seen this poster??



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20 Jun 2022, 4:43 am

cyberdad wrote:
All kind of sound like anime names

China does not use transliteration when translating Japanese animation names.
The whole thing probably has nothing to do with the name.

I looked up the interpretation of Star Wars fans in China.
They thought it was because Harrison Ford was more famous in China, so his face could attract new audiences.
The most prominent thing on the poster is bb-8, which has been advertised all the time.
All other things that make Chinese people who do not pay attention to Star Wars feel unfamiliar have been deleted and diluted, and only a lot of big scenes and special effects have been added.
So this poster will make Hard core Star Wars fans in China dissatisfied. For example, the Chewbacca was completely removed.

That poster is for those who have never watched Star Wars. And with such a big change, it's hard to say that this is malicious against blacks.
For people with different needs, they have more segmented versions.

I would say that such accusations are malicious cherry picking by the media.


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20 Jun 2022, 5:57 am

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So this poster will make Hard core Star Wars fans in China dissatisfied. For example, the Chewbacca was completely removed.


As a hardcore star wars fan myself I am very curious what my star wars brethren in China think about the state of the Star wars universe? Perhaps I should start a new thread ? this doesn't seem to have much to do with who killed the mythical jesus

I thought my answer of Seth the god of the underworld was closest to the answer



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20 Jun 2022, 6:03 am

I’m not so sure Jesus was “mythical”

He seems to have been an actual person.



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20 Jun 2022, 6:08 am

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I’m not so sure Jesus was “mythical”

He seems to have been an actual person.

Maybe, but also maybe not.

The Bible is in the fiction section of the bookstore (or library) of a reason. :wink:


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20 Jun 2022, 6:12 am

I’m an agnostic atheist, by the way.

But there is a considerable scholarly consensus that Jesus was an actual person.



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20 Jun 2022, 9:30 am

There may have been an individual named Jesus who was put to death for some reason, but he was probably so different from the persona in the collection of tall tales (the Bible) that he might as well have been a different person. The Biblical Jesus is mythical.

There’s no solid proof that he did exist. People are intelligent enough to create such a character and then progressively build off of that invention in later writings.


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20 Jun 2022, 9:34 am

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The Bible is in the fiction section of the bookstore (or library) of a reason. :wink:


It’s not in a fiction section, it’s in a religion section. The word religion means “either truth or fiction or anything in between, depending on whose beliefs are right”.



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20 Jun 2022, 9:36 am

Testimonium Flavianum

About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man.  For he was one who performed surprising deeds and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly.  He won over many Jews and many of the Greeks.  He was the Christ.  And when, upon the accusation of the principal men among us, Pilate had condemned him to a cross, those who had first come to love him did not cease.  He appeared to them spending a third day restored to life, for the prophets of God had foretold these things and a thousand other marvels about him.  And the tribe of the Christians, so called after him, has still to this day not disappeared.


Source: Flavius Josephus (0037 AD to 0100 AD): Antiquities of the Jews, Book 18, Chapter 3

(Sadly, FV was born after Jesus' crucifixion and ascension, so he was not an eyewitness to the events of Jesus' life.)



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20 Jun 2022, 9:37 am

QFT wrote:
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The Bible is in the fiction section of the bookstore (or library) of a reason. :wink:


It’s not in a fiction section, it’s in a religion section. The word religion means “either truth or fiction or anything in between, depending on whose beliefs are right”.


I will think it’s all fiction until I receive objective proof. I’m expecting to wait a long time.


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20 Jun 2022, 9:38 am

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. . . The word religion means “either truth or fiction or anything in between, depending on whose beliefs are right”.
Wrong again!

According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary . . .

religion noun

re·​li·​gion | \ ri-ˈli-jən \

Definition of religion

1: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices

2a(1): the service and worship of God or the supernatural
(2): commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2b: the state of a religious // "a nun in her 20th year of religion"

3: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

4archaic : scrupulous conformity


I do wish you would stop making up definitions to suit your own opinions.



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20 Jun 2022, 9:42 am

Sauron killed Jesus.


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20 Jun 2022, 9:46 am

Fnord wrote:
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. . . The word religion means “either truth or fiction or anything in between, depending on whose beliefs are right”.
Wrong again!

According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary . . .

religion noun

re·​li·​gion | \ ri-ˈli-jən \

Definition of religion

1: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices

2a(1): the service and worship of God or the supernatural
(2): commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2b: the state of a religious // "a nun in her 20th year of religion"

3: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

4archaic : scrupulous conformity


I do wish you would stop making up definitions to suit your own opinions.


Even though what I said is not a definition verbatim, it is still true.

a) Some people believe their religion is true, other religions are false

b) Some people believe all religions have elements of truth in them

c) Some people believe all religions are false

Now the challenge is to define the word religion so that

d) Groups a, b, and c all agree to call religion whatever everyone else calls religion

e) They do d, without contradicting their own beliefs

The definition I came up with is one way to accomplish that.



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20 Jun 2022, 9:49 am

QFT wrote:
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. . . The word religion means “either truth or fiction or anything in between, depending on whose beliefs are right”.
Wrong again!

According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary . . .

religion noun

re·​li·​gion | \ ri-ˈli-jən \

Definition of religion

1: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices

2a(1): the service and worship of God or the supernatural
(2): commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2b: the state of a religious // "a nun in her 20th year of religion"

3: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

4archaic : scrupulous conformity


I do wish you would stop making up definitions to suit your own opinions.


Even though what I said is not a definition verbatim, it is still true.

a) Some people believe their religion is true, other religions are false

b) Some people believe all religions have elements of truth in them

c) Some people believe all religions are false

Now the challenge is to define the word religion so that

d) Groups a, b, and c all agree to call religion whatever everyone else calls religion

e) They do d, without contradicting their own beliefs

The definition I came up with is one way to accomplish that.


Some think religions just are with no judgment one way or another. A definition that actually defines them is more useful.


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