04 Jul 2022, 8:36 pm
Twilightprincess wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
I don't disagree but that's besides the point considering the main disagreement is over who is entitled to consent with who and who should be entitled to consent with who.
It has already been found that the person in question was not entitled to receive consent and is, thus, a sex offender.
I doubt she was really that surprised since the laws are well-known. I would’ve assumed that I couldn’t sleep with a 14 year old at 19, not that I would’ve wanted to (ewwww!!).
It depends what they did while they were in bed, as one could be prosecuted for underage snoring? (Ok. I will be serious... Not that it helps because each time I try to write you lot write so quick I can't post what I write and I have to quickly post to ammend what I put just to get the reply sent.
Wow, you lot can type fast!)
04 Jul 2022, 8:39 pm
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04 Jul 2022, 8:41 pm
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Cool! I’ll ask the next 10 year old victim if he was a victim. If he says “no,” the guilty should go free. 
People can be victims without initially realizing it. The negative effects can come years later. 14 year olds don’t know “everything” because they are still children.
People can be victims without initially realizing it. The negative effects can come years later. 14 year olds don’t know “everything” because they are still children.
So wait, it's unreasonable to lump and 19 year old and 14 year old together as peers but somehow you think treating a 14 year old the same as a 10 year old seems reasonable? You're sacrificing logical consistency to gain what exactly? Emotional impact? I guess if that's what you find persuasive.
04 Jul 2022, 8:42 pm
04 Jul 2022, 8:44 pm
funeralxempire wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
Cool! I’ll ask the next 10 year old victim if he was a victim. If he says “no,” the guilty should go free.
People can be victims without initially realizing it. The negative effects can come years later. 14 year olds don’t know “everything” because they are still children.
People can be victims without initially realizing it. The negative effects can come years later. 14 year olds don’t know “everything” because they are still children.
So wait, it's unreasonable to lump and 19 year old and 14 year old together as peers but somehow you think treating a 14 year old the same as a 10 year old seems reasonable? You're sacrificing logical consistency to gain what exactly? Emotional impact? I guess if that's what you find persuasive.
14 year olds and 10 year olds are both minors.
At what age, do you think, should we start asking victims of abuse whether they feel like they are victims or not?
(It doesn’t really matter since we already have laws in place to protect victims. I don’t need to sound persuasive.)
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04 Jul 2022, 8:53 pm
Twilightprincess wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
Cool! I’ll ask the next 10 year old victim if he was a victim. If he says “no,” the guilty should go free.
People can be victims without initially realizing it. The negative effects can come years later. 14 year olds don’t know “everything” because they are still children.
People can be victims without initially realizing it. The negative effects can come years later. 14 year olds don’t know “everything” because they are still children.
So wait, it's unreasonable to lump and 19 year old and 14 year old together as peers but somehow you think treating a 14 year old the same as a 10 year old seems reasonable? You're sacrificing logical consistency to gain what exactly? Emotional impact? I guess if that's what you find persuasive.
14 year olds and 10 year olds are both minors.
At what age, do you think, should we start asking victims of abuse whether they feel like they are victims or not?
(It doesn’t really matter since we already have laws in place to protect victims. I don’t need to sound persuasive.)
Toddlers and 17 year olds are both minors but that means jackshit.
Let's see, 14 isn't an uncommon AoC meanwhile 10 is pretty much universally considered too low. For the one, it's reasonable to recognize that debate exists meanwhile for the other isn't absurd to insist debate exists.
Treating interactions between teenagers as being between teenagers seems more reasonable than what you admit support for. Using some case of a 10 year old that got raped is just a dishonest appeal to emotion and little more than an attempt to hide where you're actually being criticized underneath something different that can't be.
04 Jul 2022, 8:55 pm
funeralxempire wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Twilightprincess wrote:
Cool! I’ll ask the next 10 year old victim if he was a victim. If he says “no,” the guilty should go free.
People can be victims without initially realizing it. The negative effects can come years later. 14 year olds don’t know “everything” because they are still children.
People can be victims without initially realizing it. The negative effects can come years later. 14 year olds don’t know “everything” because they are still children.
So wait, it's unreasonable to lump and 19 year old and 14 year old together as peers but somehow you think treating a 14 year old the same as a 10 year old seems reasonable? You're sacrificing logical consistency to gain what exactly? Emotional impact? I guess if that's what you find persuasive.
14 year olds and 10 year olds are both minors.
At what age, do you think, should we start asking victims of abuse whether they feel like they are victims or not?
(It doesn’t really matter since we already have laws in place to protect victims. I don’t need to sound persuasive.)
Toddlers and 17 year olds are both minors but that means jackshit.
Let's see, 14 isn't an uncommon AoC meanwhile 10 is pretty much universally considered too low. For the one, it's reasonable to recognize that debate exists meanwhile for the other isn't absurd to insist debate exists.
Treating interactions between teenagers as being between teenagers seems more reasonable than what you admit support for. Using some case of a 10 year old that got raped is just a dishonest appeal to emotion and little more than an attempt to hide where you're actually being criticized underneath something different that can't be.
There’s a world of difference between 14 and 19, and the 19 year old almost certainly knew it.
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