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27 Sep 2022, 2:58 am

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They could actually bring back the sodomy laws and heretic burnings for all we know. And I guarantee you many of these people are hoping for this.


Lynchings have been a recreational passtime in the US from the 1600s all the way to the mid 1960s

You think lynchings stopped in America in the 1960's? :?

There were several black Americans found hanging during the BLM protests of 2020. It's possible some may have been suicides, but it's more probable that they were mostly, or all, racially motivated lynchings.

It was only this year, in late February/early March 2022 that the US finally passed a law making lynching a federal crime.


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27 Sep 2022, 5:18 am

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It was only this year, in late February/early March 2022 that the US finally passed a law making lynching a federal crime.



That's somewhat disingenuous. Deprivation of Civil Rights, is the relevant federal charge in such cases and has been around since the civil rights era. It carries the equivalent of a murder charge.



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27 Sep 2022, 5:48 am

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It was only this year, in late February/early March 2022 that the US finally passed a law making lynching a federal crime.



That's somewhat disingenuous. Deprivation of Civil Rights, is the relevant federal charge in such cases and has been around since the civil rights era. It carries the equivalent of a murder charge.


Yes, but...if it were my son who was murdered, it would be insulting to me, his family and his memory to have "deprivation of civit rights" be the charge against the perpetrator. Like WOW! Lynching is murder and the charge should carry that weight.

And even so, the civil rights era is some 100 years after slavery was abolished. I am not proud that my country took so very long to implement laws protecting the right of persons to live.


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27 Sep 2022, 5:53 am

goldfish21 wrote:
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They could actually bring back the sodomy laws and heretic burnings for all we know. And I guarantee you many of these people are hoping for this.


Lynchings have been a recreational passtime in the US from the 1600s all the way to the mid 1960s

You think lynchings stopped in America in the 1960's? :?

There were several black Americans found hanging during the BLM protests of 2020. It's possible some may have been suicides, but it's more probable that they were mostly, or all, racially motivated lynchings.

It was only this year, in late February/early March 2022 that the US finally passed a law making lynching a federal crime.


Utterly unbelievable it took till March of this year??

I think the last public lynching involving "happy" picnics, children and photos was in the 60s. They were family entertainment before television. The ones you are referring to are secretive affairs,

Look at the happy faces

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27 Sep 2022, 6:51 am

blazingstar wrote:
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goldfish21 wrote:
It was only this year, in late February/early March 2022 that the US finally passed a law making lynching a federal crime.



That's somewhat disingenuous. Deprivation of Civil Rights, is the relevant federal charge in such cases and has been around since the civil rights era. It carries the equivalent of a murder charge.


Yes, but...if it were my son who was murdered, it would be insulting to me, his family and his memory to have "deprivation of civit rights" be the charge against the perpetrator. Like WOW! Lynching is murder and the charge should carry that weight.

And even so, the civil rights era is some 100 years after slavery was abolished. I am not proud that my country took so very long to implement laws protecting the right of persons to live.

The right to life is a legal cornerstone of the United States and has been implemented since its inception.



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27 Sep 2022, 8:13 am

cyberdad wrote:
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They could actually bring back the sodomy laws and heretic burnings for all we know. And I guarantee you many of these people are hoping for this.


Lynchings have been a recreational passtime in the US from the 1600s all the way to the mid 1960s


They still happen from what I've been told. I used to live in Florida and there was a small town called Jay close to where we lived that I'm pretty sure had connections to the KKK. My mom at one time thought about buying property there because it was very cheap and she thought it looked like a nice small town, but her friend from college (who is black) looked shocked that my mom was thinking about moving there and straight up told my mom "If you move there I won't be able to visit you. Black people aren't welcomed there."

My Mom was confused at first until she looked at the history of this town. Lynchings still happen there even in recent years.



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27 Sep 2022, 10:08 am

DeathFlowerKing wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
DeathFlowerKing wrote:
They could actually bring back the sodomy laws and heretic burnings for all we know. And I guarantee you many of these people are hoping for this.


Lynchings have been a recreational passtime in the US from the 1600s all the way to the mid 1960s


They still happen from what I've been told. I used to live in Florida and there was a small town called Jay close to where we lived that I'm pretty sure had connections to the KKK. My mom at one time thought about buying property there because it was very cheap and she thought it looked like a nice small town, but her friend from college (who is black) looked shocked that my mom was thinking about moving there and straight up told my mom "If you move there I won't be able to visit you. Black people aren't welcomed there."

My Mom was confused at first until she looked at the history of this town. Lynchings still happen there even in recent years.




Holy CR8P, Jay is Only Less than 20 Miles
From Where i Live in Florida too; (We Were Practically
Neighbors too) Anyway, Back in 1984, When i Started
my Federal Working Career for 25 Years For the United
States Navy, 'They' Told The African American Sailors as

Part of their Introduction
to the Area, Don't Go
to Jay After Dark As It's
True Then it Wasn't A Very
Welcoming Place For African
Americans At All Still in the
80's in the United States; And Yes,

Systemic Discrimination Against Blacks
Still Occurs Here as not too Long Ago One
of my Wife's Great Nieces As She Has Great Great
Nieces too As Her Sister is A Great Grandmother Now
Several Times Over With Great Grand Children in Grade School

Now; Yes, Her Great Niece's (She is of Black And White Inter-Racial
Mix) Husband (He is Black) Was Stopped Driving His Lexus in His
Affluent Neighborhood After Working 80 Hours a Week One Night

Yep Profiled
Still For No Other
Reason than the
Melanin of His Skin
And Pre-Conceived
Notions About Melanin
And Socio-Economic Ability

And Criminal Activity;

Yes, A World is Still Quite
Ill at Least in 'Trump Town Places'
This Way in America Indeed; Yes, a Little
Critical Race Theory is Still in Order of Art
of WHere All This Bull CR8P Originates From Indeed...

It Wasn't A Big Problem in the United States Navy; They all
Understood We All Bleed The Color Red And Love the Same...

Matter of Fact, As A Rather Odd Person, Not Yet Diagnosed on
The Autism Spectrum There, They Treated me With More Respect
And Others too in A Discipline of Life Militarily Speaking in Respect for All

At Least
When Not
Fighting the
Enemy Somewhere
Else Yet Their Homeland Now...

i Still Call Everyone One of Them
Sir and or Ma'am Now At the Military Gym Where
i Used to Be An Athletic Director and Recreation
Programs Manager of; Still Leg Pressing Up to 1520
Pounds, There is a Certain Grace of Respect for others

That
Comes
Through
True Strength
Earned Through DarK AND LiGHT
For An All Hands Shipmate Effort indeed...

Indeed, The Original Greek Definition of Meek
Inheriting the Earth Through Balancing of Loving Grace

With No God
Damn Little
Man And Or Woman Disease
In 'Napoleon Ice Cream Ways' to Prove...

The Truth is the Military Treats Everyone
With More Respect Than Christian Churches
i Have Visited in the Area Mostly For the Reason

They Stay in The Same
'One Horse' Ignorant
Place Their Entire Life;

And this is A Real Beauty of Online;

It Allows Most Everyone the Ability to at
Least 'Virtually' Escape 'Trump Towns USA...'

People OVERALL, Are Much, MUCH, MUCH, MORE ACCEPTING

OF EVERYONE NOW IN GENERAL AS OPPOSED TO WHEN I WAS YOUNG

FOR GOD
DAMNED SURE...

HEHE, Yet i am Mostly
Talking 60's, 70's, And 80'S Hehe..;)



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27 Sep 2022, 11:53 am

aghogday wrote:
DeathFlowerKing wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
DeathFlowerKing wrote:
They could actually bring back the sodomy laws and heretic burnings for all we know. And I guarantee you many of these people are hoping for this.


Lynchings have been a recreational passtime in the US from the 1600s all the way to the mid 1960s


They still happen from what I've been told. I used to live in Florida and there was a small town called Jay close to where we lived that I'm pretty sure had connections to the KKK. My mom at one time thought about buying property there because it was very cheap and she thought it looked like a nice small town, but her friend from college (who is black) looked shocked that my mom was thinking about moving there and straight up told my mom "If you move there I won't be able to visit you. Black people aren't welcomed there."

My Mom was confused at first until she looked at the history of this town. Lynchings still happen there even in recent years.




Holy CR8P, Jay is Only Less than 20 Miles
From Where i Live in Florida too; (We Were Practically
Neighbors too) Anyway, Back in 1984, When i Started
my Federal Working Career for 25 Years For the United
States Navy, 'They' Told The African American Sailors as

Part of their Introduction
to the Area, Don't Go
to Jay After Dark As It's
True Then it Wasn't A Very
Welcoming Place For African
Americans At All Still in the
80's in the United States; And Yes,

Systemic Discrimination Against Blacks
Still Occurs Here as not too Long Ago One
of my Wife's Great Nieces As She Has Great Great
Nieces too As Her Sister is A Great Grandmother Now
Several Times Over With Great Grand Children in Grade School

Now; Yes, Her Great Niece's (She is of Black And White Inter-Racial
Mix) Husband (He is Black) Was Stopped Driving His Lexus in His
Affluent Neighborhood After Working 80 Hours a Week One Night

Yep Profiled
Still For No Other
Reason than the
Melanin of His Skin
And Pre-Conceived
Notions About Melanin
And Socio-Economic Ability

And Criminal Activity;

Yes, A World is Still Quite
Ill at Least in 'Trump Town Places'
This Way in America Indeed; Yes, a Little
Critical Race Theory is Still in Order of Art
of WHere All This Bull CR8P Originates From Indeed...

It Wasn't A Big Problem in the United States Navy; They all
Understood We All Bleed The Color Red And Love the Same...

Matter of Fact, As A Rather Odd Person, Not Yet Diagnosed on
The Autism Spectrum There, They Treated me With More Respect
And Others too in A Discipline of Life Militarily Speaking in Respect for All

At Least
When Not
Fighting the
Enemy Somewhere
Else Yet Their Homeland Now...

i Still Call Everyone One of Them
Sir and or Ma'am Now At the Military Gym Where
i Used to Be An Athletic Director and Recreation
Programs Manager of; Still Leg Pressing Up to 1520
Pounds, There is a Certain Grace of Respect for others

That
Comes
Through
True Strength
Earned Through DarK AND LiGHT
For An All Hands Shipmate Effort indeed...

Indeed, The Original Greek Definition of Meek
Inheriting the Earth Through Balancing of Loving Grace

With No God
Damn Little
Man And Or Woman Disease
In 'Napoleon Ice Cream Ways' to Prove...

The Truth is the Military Treats Everyone
With More Respect Than Christian Churches
i Have Visited in the Area Mostly For the Reason

They Stay in The Same
'One Horse' Ignorant
Place Their Entire Life;

And this is A Real Beauty of Online;

It Allows Most Everyone the Ability to at
Least 'Virtually' Escape 'Trump Towns USA...'

People OVERALL, Are Much, MUCH, MUCH, MORE ACCEPTING

OF EVERYONE NOW IN GENERAL AS OPPOSED TO WHEN I WAS YOUNG

FOR GOD
DAMNED SURE...

HEHE, Yet i am Mostly
Talking 60's, 70's, And 80'S Hehe..;)




You must have lived in Pensacola too? That's where I used to live. :)



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27 Sep 2022, 12:40 pm

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You must have lived in Pensacola too? That's where I used to live. :)




i Am Born in Pensacola; Chances Are if You Ever Visited
'Seville Quarter' on a Thursday Night From March of 2014
Thru March of 2020, (As That's One Place too Crowded to
Dance Since Covid-19) You Saw me There As i Am Kind of Hard
to Miss Hehe, As i've Been Public Dancing All Around This Metro

Area, Now For 17,222 Miles, including Local Malls/Stores/Area Public Festival Events;
And All the Way To Biloxi Casino's And The Beaches There Through Tallahassee too

For 9 Years, And 1 Month,
And 1 Day; Hehe, Continuing
Today A Bit Later in Walmart

In Pace as i Live in That Area Now;

People Have Said if Folks Haven't
Seen me Yet They Don't Get Out of Their Home Much, HAha;

As A Viral Video Taken By A Video Voyeur on Social Media Has Related With Over 90,000 Views;

(i Got to Be A Fly on The Wall And Read 1300 Comments From the Metro Community Assessing me;
Ranging From Local Dancing Folk Legend to Someone Afraid i Was Gonna 'Go Postal' and Harm Someone)

Plus Many Others too, Hehe; It's Just For Fun And i Kind of Champion Folks Rights to Be Different This way;

i Had the Most Problems Doing This From Fundamentalist Religious Folks Yet i Always was Able to Quote
The Numbers of Their Verses And Turn the Beat Around on them In So Many Hypocritical Ways Away

From So-called
Teachings

of Jesus;

Like Lighting

Your Lamp and Not
Hiding it as they Insisted
i Was no 'King David' Public
Dancing For the Community and
of Course i Said Hell No That's Small
Fry, i'm Doing John 14:12 Now in Luke 17:21;

i Practically Made Some of Their Heads Spin
in The Middle of my Spiral Dance Making Them Dizzy;

Here is an Example
Below Here When
And Where i Am Celebrating
17,000 Miles of Public Dance, Recently;

If You Look Carefully in the Background
You May See Some 'Local Minions' of 'Trump Town USA' Here;

And It's Not Nearly As Prevalent as A Few Miles Down the Road in Milton;
A Town that Used to be Called Scratch Ankle; And Literally Called 'Hell' Before That

As the First Settlers Were Known for Not Being too Nice Settling this Mill Town From the Start;

True, i Am Raised on that River DownTown called Blackwater River That Was Once Known As Hell

Right there on the
Riverbank As they
Tore the Old House Down
i Lived in And Made a Festival
Ground in A Park; Yes, for Fourth
of July Events, Etc.; Shortly at Age 9, After
Living There, We Moved on 'Elm Street' Noting

Then i Was Called 'Freddy' And my Birthday
of 6.6.60 Was Yes A Bit of an 'Omen' as i Got
to Do the Opposite of Luke 17:21 Within in Hell too For 66 Months;

Religions all Around the World Are my Special Interests; The Locals

Here Don't Do Very Well When They Try to Go Toe to Toe with me About 'Faith'

For It's True i See
Nature Seen And
Unseen As A Real
Theism in Realism;

It's Hard to Deny When
Every Breath Feels and
Senses Love For Real Now;

Yet That's A Practice of Life
For Inhaling Peace Exhaling Love For Real

"BREaTHiNG PeaceFuL LoVinG LiVinG Faith" A 'Title'
of What i Am Currently Writing New Now; Yes,

Again Just
For A Joy
of BREaTHiNG
PeaceFuL LoVinG LiVinG Faith New Now
With Always New Colors of Joy to Create..:)



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27 Sep 2022, 12:49 pm

I used to go camping and canoing at Blackwater River, it's interesting to meet someone who is familiar with the area. :D

I wasn't actually born in Pensacola though, I was born and raised in a town called Thomasville in South Georgia. :)



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27 Sep 2022, 1:18 pm

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I used to go camping and canoing at Blackwater River, it's interesting to meet someone who is familiar with the area. :D

I wasn't actually born in Pensacola though, I was born and raised in a town called Thomasville in South Georgia. :)




Ah Yes, Blackwater River For Camping And Canoeing
is Surely Magnificent With the Blackwater River Forest
And Sugar White Sands By Blackwaters Stained
by Tanin of Pines to the Crystal Yellow Streams

That Are Pretty Cold in the Summer too, Hehe;

And of Course the Beaches Really Can't Be Beat
With Emerald Green Waves, Sugar White Sands,
Sea Oats Swaying in the Breeze, And Sea Gulls

Spiraling Around the Sun

As i Tend to Transform

my Dance That Way

in Wings of Autotelic Flow
Generating Joy Within Ascending
Transcending That Way in Ecstatic Trance For Real;

True, i Do Forgive A Lot of What Humans Do Here;
By the Gift of Nature As Truly my Backyard is A Real

Garden of Eden Deep in a Forest Similar to Where Folks
Take 200,000 Dollar Driving Trailers to Camp; My House

And Car is Paid-Off, So

i Do it For Free Hehe;

With Nature Naked Enough
Whole Complete With a Very Small Family, A Few
FRiEnDS, A Wife, And Joy Enough For Heaven Within for Real...

i Am Very Familiar With Thomasville Georgia as We Lived in
my Father's City in Tallahassee A Short Distance From There
For A Year in 2nd Grade When i Went to 'Blessed Sacrament' Catholic Private
School my Grandmother Paid for Us to Go There Then on my Father's Side.

i Didn't Speak Until 4, And A Bigger School Overwhelmed me in Empathic
And Sensory Overstimulation There; i Made it Through With Anemia Until
We Returned Back to Blackwater River Downtown Where my Grandmother on
The Maternal Side Lived; A Small Two Story Elementary School That would one
Day Be Transformed into A Small Junior College Branch Locally too; Smaller Places

of Environmental Stimuli
Suited me Better then Yet

i Tolerate it Much, Much Better
Now As Meditating Dance Does
Actually Regulate Emotions and
Integrate Senses in Flow; And i Actually
Have A Prescription From A Doctor to Do Just That;

It's True, it is one Therapy Approved to Treat Autistic Kids too;

Getting A Right Hemisphere More Closely Related to Emotional
Regulation Back in Tune Integrating Body and Soul Senses For Real ThiS Way Head to toe...

Works for me Along with Joining Words and Emotions Eliminating 'Alexithymia'

Through Free Verse Poetry too; Yep, All 10.9 MiLLioN Words of "SonG oF mY
SoUL" Now in 109 Months While Doing the Public Dance, Ongoing Now too;

HAha, i Don't Stutter
Anymore Either, Smooth
Flow in All That i Do Now For Real;

Indeed, As i've BecoMe Essence of A River
And Waves of Ocean And Water Whole too in Effortless 'Wu-Wei' Ease..:)



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27 Sep 2022, 5:04 pm

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There were several black Americans found hanging during the BLM protests of 2020. It's possible some may have been suicides, but it's more probable that they were mostly, or all, racially motivated lynchings.


Cite?


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27 Sep 2022, 5:49 pm

DeathFlowerKing wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
DeathFlowerKing wrote:
They could actually bring back the sodomy laws and heretic burnings for all we know. And I guarantee you many of these people are hoping for this.


Lynchings have been a recreational passtime in the US from the 1600s all the way to the mid 1960s


They still happen from what I've been told. I used to live in Florida and there was a small town called Jay close to where we lived that I'm pretty sure had connections to the KKK. My mom at one time thought about buying property there because it was very cheap and she thought it looked like a nice small town, but her friend from college (who is black) looked shocked that my mom was thinking about moving there and straight up told my mom "If you move there I won't be able to visit you. Black people aren't welcomed there."

My Mom was confused at first until she looked at the history of this town. Lynchings still happen there even in recent years.


Yes, as I told goldfish. I don't dispute "good o'l boys still hunt n-words". But it's not a public spectacle where everyone is posing for photos. A lot of missing black folk probably end up at secret klan rallies. God help them.

There's a fairly famous case I watched in the 2010s where a black dude in the south went with his white friends to a party where everyone was white. The party was apparently boring and his friends wanted to move on but the black dude said to leave him as he was talking to a girl. They were all drinking.

The following day he never returned home. Despite extensive police investigation nobody at the party remembered him but his family suspect the white men at the party lynched him.

There are literally hundreds of missing persons cases involving black men who were in all white areas. Here's just one where the dude was in a campsite surrounded by his white co-workers and white campers. He's shot, the police call it a cold case. The family say he was lynched and the police are not maing any effort (sound familiar).
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fa ... -rcna13490



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27 Sep 2022, 9:11 pm

cyberdad wrote:
DeathFlowerKing wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
DeathFlowerKing wrote:
They could actually bring back the sodomy laws and heretic burnings for all we know. And I guarantee you many of these people are hoping for this.


Lynchings have been a recreational passtime in the US from the 1600s all the way to the mid 1960s


They still happen from what I've been told. I used to live in Florida and there was a small town called Jay close to where we lived that I'm pretty sure had connections to the KKK. My mom at one time thought about buying property there because it was very cheap and she thought it looked like a nice small town, but her friend from college (who is black) looked shocked that my mom was thinking about moving there and straight up told my mom "If you move there I won't be able to visit you. Black people aren't welcomed there."

My Mom was confused at first until she looked at the history of this town. Lynchings still happen there even in recent years.


Yes, as I told goldfish. I don't dispute "good o'l boys still hunt n-words". But it's not a public spectacle where everyone is posing for photos. A lot of missing black folk probably end up at secret klan rallies. God help them.

There's a fairly famous case I watched in the 2010s where a black dude in the south went with his white friends to a party where everyone was white. The party was apparently boring and his friends wanted to move on but the black dude said to leave him as he was talking to a girl. They were all drinking.

The following day he never returned home. Despite extensive police investigation nobody at the party remembered him but his family suspect the white men at the party lynched him.

There are literally hundreds of missing persons cases involving black men who were in all white areas. Here's just one where the dude was in a campsite surrounded by his white co-workers and white campers. He's shot, the police call it a cold case. The family say he was lynched and the police are not maing any effort (sound familiar).
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fa ... -rcna13490


Indeed it does, and it's really depressing.



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27 Sep 2022, 10:41 pm

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Since religion has been in steep decline in the west

In MOST parts of the West. Much less so in the U.S.A., especially the Bible Belt.


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27 Sep 2022, 10:54 pm

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Indeed it does, and it's really depressing.


America is largely a white-only conservative christian theocracy already. I was watching a podcast from a black nurse who was working in a Idaho hospital. Despite wearing a nurses uniform she was regularly racially abused. Idaho's population is only 0.9% black.She made a number of warnings to other black nurses to not work in Idaho as she felt unsafe in public.

Black people are largely restricted to black majority urban areas in several specific major cities to be safe. When they venture outside of these spaces their lives are at risk from rogue white police and random white racists. It must be stressful to just a take simple family holiday in the countryside.