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01 Dec 2022, 9:25 am

I always tell people who hate the US that they should take a ride on a Nigerian highway. About every 100 miles or so (less near cities), roadblocks are set up, and drivers must pay a bribe to proceed from the roadblock.

Getting out of a Nigerian airport involves bribing multiple security-type people.



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01 Dec 2022, 9:43 am

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I always tell people who hate the US that they should take a ride on a Nigerian highway. About every 100 miles or so (less near cities), roadblocks are set up, and drivers must pay a bribe to proceed from the roadblock.

Getting out of a Nigerian airport involves bribing multiple security-type people.


To be clear I don't really hate everything about the US.

To me this country is like mom. She's not perfect and sometimes she drives me to my breaking point, but I still love her because I know nobody else will have me



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01 Dec 2022, 9:46 am

All right. That’s cool.



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01 Dec 2022, 9:56 am

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I wonder if maybe deep down "fascism" has always been a core part of America's system? Given our long history if slavery and genocide, not to mention locking certain families up in prison camps like the Japanese during WW2 or the Hispanics trying to cross our border in recent years.

Or perhaps we're just an apartheid state like what South Africa has?

I sometimes feel like there was something distrubingly common between the death industry of the Holocaust and the Atlantic slavery.
This dehumanization of people considered "under-men" in every aspect of their lifes and deaths. Mass, industrial scale. The ancestry obsession, deteriminig your rights or lack of them. And some social mechanisms that made it possible for regular people to do horrorous things (and, in some cases, to still consider themselves good christians).

Atlantic slavery was older than fascism. It lasted a lot longer. Its impact seems also likely to be lasting longer.


I remember reading that Hitler was inspired by racial practices like segregation in the United States.


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01 Dec 2022, 9:59 am

Hitler was most inspired by being rejected by a Vienna art school.



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01 Dec 2022, 10:00 am

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Hitler was most inspired by being rejected by a Vienna art school.
Or by his narcissistic father.

Probably he had many inspirations.


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01 Dec 2022, 10:02 am

Maybe Hitler wasn't hugged enough as a child? :P



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01 Dec 2022, 10:04 am

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Maybe Hitler wasn't hugged enough as a child? :P

If the book I read about Hitler's childhood was right, he wasn't indeed.


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01 Dec 2022, 10:23 am

It seems as if many Austrian and German fathers weren’t especially affectionate towards their sons. Sort of a “macho” sort of thing.

Hitler was angry that Germany (and Austria) were “stabbed in the back” by the Versailles Treaty.



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01 Dec 2022, 10:24 am

I often hear that Trump had serious issues with his father too.


You know what they say about apples and trees...



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01 Dec 2022, 10:26 am

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Hitler was angry that Germany (and Austria) were “stabbed in the back” by the Versailles Treaty.
And really many shared this sentiment in this time and place.


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01 Dec 2022, 12:05 pm

magz wrote:
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Hitler was angry that Germany (and Austria) were “stabbed in the back” by the Versailles Treaty.
And really many shared this sentiment in this time and place.

TBH the Versailles Treaty was highly vindictive is all I'll say.

After WWII the US instituted the Marshall Plan to mitigate conditions that might have led to more war. I don't think Poland, being under Soviet control, benefited from that. The USSR was devastated by the war and was in no position to help with recovery in its occupation zone. In particular, they took whatever usable infrastructure they could transport out of what became the DDR. It's clear they wanted to punish Germans and TBH they had good reason to feel that way. The US OTOH came out of the war in better condition than at the start, which contribute to a great deal of resentment towards the US in Western Europe, especially the UK.


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01 Dec 2022, 12:12 pm

The USA is the country everyone loves to hate, including other Americans. :P



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01 Dec 2022, 1:14 pm



"A growing number of scholars have argued that the political style of Donald Trump resembles the political style of fascist leaders;" A Quote From 'Wiki Style Research' on the Topic "Fascism in North America." It Appears That Trump Is A Main

Danger Associated With Elements Related to Fascism Like Authoritarian Style LeaderShip That Goes to the, YucK,

Dangerous Extent of Attempting to Overthrow Representative Democracy By Usurping Election Results in Potential

Criminal Ways As Mr. Trump Is Currently Being Assessed By Special Counsel Related to the Department of Justice;

Considering, The Results of the Mid-Term Elections, Where Supporters of Trump's Big Lie About Winning the

Last Election, Were Overall Defeated and the Republican Party Did Not Nearly Win Expected Gains in

The House of Representatives As It Appears

That Trump is the One Who Has Been "Owning

Overall Republican Leadership," Really Since He

Entered into the Races And Started Calling the Opposition

In His Own Party Childish Names Like a School-Yard Bully
With Close to Zero Levels of Human Empathy; Indeed, a Prerequisite

For a Most Despicable Leader That 'Folks' Are Willing to Blindly Follow

If There Are Wedge Issues Like Abortion That Appeal to Religions Hoping

For Greater Theocratic Control of the Government at Hand to Put Their So Called

God's Rules Back in Charge. The Catholic Church Was Associated in Some Ways of

'Behind the Dictators' Of Last Century, With Their Rise; Hehe, My Grandfather, An X-Catholic

Priest Who Used to Serve as Counsel to the Vatican During That Era of Last Century Was Surely Privy to

The Internal Affairs of This During Papal Rule Last Century, During the Rise of the Dictators Then And

Yes He Even Wrote A Book That is Still Referenced By The Title, 'Behind The Dictators' That Is Still Studied

Per the Relationship

of The Catholic

Church And

Fascism Early Last Century;

As A Participant Anthropology Observer
Visiting The Catholic Church in This 'Agency'

Writing EPiC Long Form Poetry in Direct Poetic Reporting As Such,

i Witnessed the Catholic Priest Telling the Congregation That

Basically God Directs the Congregation to Vote For Trump;

Maybe i Would Have Vomited a Little bit in my Mouth Upon Hearing

That Disgustful Direction, Considering Trump Already Proved Himself

As a Real 'Father oF all Lies,' And Totally Opposite of Any Kind of Human Character

Associated With the Teachings of the So-Called 'Beatitudes,' Yet i Already Realized it Happened

Last Century, And While History Doesn't Precisely Repeat itself; Yes, Patterns May Be Observed And Noted;

And this is Also A Beauty of Writing Epic Long Form Poetry, Taking Poetic Notes, And Referencing Them Again For

Wisdom

As Such.

Without the Wedge Issue
of Abortion and Disapproval
of Gay Marriage; And Most Importantly

Support From the Christian Church, There is

No Way Trump Could Have Risen in 2015; And There

Is No Way That Trump Could Have Stayed in the Game at

All in 2020 For Re-Election; And One of the Main Reasons Trump

Still Remains in the Lead for the Republican Nomination in 2024, is

The Hope Among So-called

Christians That He Will

Help Bring So-called

God's Rules Back to Get Rid

of Gay Marriage And Abortion Forever;

No Matter How the Hell Other Humans Suffer Now,

GOOD NEWS, Mostly What is Left in 'Church' is A Graying Demographic;

The Younger Generations Don't Have Room in Their Lives For TRuMP Bull Cr8p;

And Additionally Guess What, The Republican Party Gifted Them The Wedge Issue

of Saving Women's Rights to Basic Health Care; And Keeping the Rights of Those Who

Would Otherwise Be Oppressed in Terms of Sexual and Gender Orientation And the Such
Of Basic

Natural

Variation

of the Human Species...

Trump Style Leadership

Lost the Last Two Elections; And Now As Long

As Younger Generations Will and Do Keep it At Bay By VOTING,

We Are Safe, Thanks to that Wisdom of Younger Generations, Hooray!

Now of Course This is Just My Opinion; Yet i Do Get All the Way Around
Trump Town/Churches Per Catholic and Protestant Styles as Well in Detailed

Poetic Analysis,

Hehe and
the Rest
of the
'Internet
Globe' too With SMiLes..:)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism_in_North_America#United_States



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01 Dec 2022, 1:23 pm

Yes I definetly agree that Trumpism is becoming a new form of fascism. How did a dumpy unappealing washed up reality star notorious for being an as*hole to everyone unfortunate enough to work for him wind up having such huge influence on the US to the point of building a large and dangerous political cult centered around lies, pure hate, and the burning need to destroy what progress we made as a country for the sake of building a dictatorship?

It's truly very bizarre. :|



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01 Dec 2022, 1:59 pm

^^^



You Used to Live Close to Where i Live Now;

You Probably Know the Routine; You Go Out

To A Restaurant And If You Are Brave Enough

To Touch it, You Pick Up the Little Pamphlet on

Top of the Toilet in the Restroom And Read the Promise

of Paradise on the Front Cover of the Pamphlet With Some

Angelic Being Rising into the So-Called Heavens all Ready to Take You up

There in A Promise of a Dirt Nap Stay After Life or Ashes if You Go That Way, hehe;

Then You Read About this All Forgiving Loving

God Who Might as Well Be Called Trump,

Who By the Time You Get to the

Back of the Pamphlet

Changes into A Beast

With Horns and Promises

To Burn You Forever Unless

You Worship His So-Called

Only Son, HiM, and Believe That He Arose

Like A Zombie From A Tomb To Live Again;

Of Course, The Folks Who Wrote the Pamphlet Are

Rather Restricted to Black and White, Literal Think,

And Didn't Get the Metaphor That it Was Just Another

Literary Story About the Human Archetype of the Hero Who

Rises From the

DarK to Be Reborn

in LiGHT of Peace and

Love With the EYeS oF An

Innocent Child Smiling at Another
Child for No Other Reason Yet the Love

of A Peaceful

Human Condition

ToGeTHeR And Real...

You See What i MEAN; It's Like the

Ending of that Old 'Twilight Zone' SHow

Where A Book is Promised "to Serve MAN;"

Yet All It Ends Up Being is A Space Ship Going No

WHere Yet Dinner AS Human Being Recipe to Be Dead
in An Empty Promise
of Nothing

Other Than

Feeding Other

Aliens From 'Up There'...

YET In 'This Case,' Feeding Trump's Selfish Ego...

Like A 'God' Who Might Have 'Little Man Syndrome' too...

Or Perhaps A Congregation Where Big Daddy's Told their

Little Boys They Weren't Allowed to Cry or Share 'Gay Joy'
For No Other Reason

Yet Loving
This Gift

of Life For Real This Present NeW Now;

'God' Yes, With the EYes of A Child, Not
Yet Extinguished From the Gift of LoVE iN Peace...

It's a Grift Baby And the Oldest Big Lie(s) in the
Last Several

Millenia....

Globe
Wide Indeed...

As In One and Another
Religion And Scores of
Thousands of Denominations

And Sects; Basically Half the World

Is SUBJECT to Believing A Bigger Lie than Trump's Lie

And a Bigger Punishment in Firing of Burning

Forever

If You

Don't Worship

That Same Old 'TRumP God(s)'

And Believe Whatever 'HE' says of Course,

With or Without A Cookbook With A Recipe for Firing Hell...

For the Heaven

Otherwise

Promised

For Worshipping

A Most Despicable

Leader EVER IMAGINeD ON EaRTH

BY SO-CALLED HUMANITY, Stink Stank Stunk...

Same
God
Damn

'TRuMP Story,'

Oldest Basic Human DarKesT
Story and Reality Breathing, Yuck;

Yet On the Other 'Left' Hand, There are Folks

With the Ability to Understand YES the More

Mystical Metaphors And Truly Rise LoVE iN
Peace Unity ToGeTHeR Real;

For Anyone Who
Attempts to

Separate

TRumP and
Politics and
Philosophy from

Religion (In Twilight Zone Way) They Are
Verily Not Getting the 'Depth Of the Story'..;)



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