I don't want children...

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If kids think they can get away with it, yessir, they most certainly will.

My wife and I have a particular style of parenting. We didn’t expect our kids to do it to us, so when our kids tried it, it caught us off guard.

What are kids didn’t count on is that their mother and I communicate. About EVERYTHING. One time wife came to me and asked why I said our son could have a treat. I never gave him permission to do that, and he was sneaking something right in front of his mother. He had also gotten permission from his mother for something else after I made it clear he wasn’t supposed to do it.

We noticed the second time he did something like that, and by this point he knew it would cause an argument between us. So we did two things. We told our two oldest children that we were together long before we had children and our relationship is everything. Second, we made sure the consequences were severe enough and consistent so they’d never want to try that again. There are a number of minor annoyances and infractions kids will always get away with. Messing with a marriage is inexcusable.

I think maybe the hardest part is dealing with teenagers when the discipline is inconsistent in early childhood. It’s easy to be tough on a 3 year old. If you are so inclined, it’s not terribly difficult spanking a 7 year old. If you don’t have certain behaviors established between 3 and 8, you’ve lost the child. If you have a teen wrecking your house, be prepared to negotiate and compromise. It’s also possible to make a difficult child a ward of the state. They need to know that. What we tell our teens is that they just have to hang on a few more years and this part is over. Thing is…they like us too much to leave!

If you don’t want kids, fine. I’m just saying they aren’t nearly as bad as you might think. For every situation there is a solution.

When I was a young child, I reasoned that if I was never born I would never be in a position where I might endure eternal torment in hell.
Why would parents do that to their children?

Give me oblivion any day of the week.

There is just too much wrong with autism and the flesh without putting such responsibility on myself, another and a kid. Plus, I never understood why people are so selfish to not adopt instead of breeding. It's like when icecream exists in the fridge and will keep being created but you make more and let the other spoil. But these are real human beings which at this point are valueless.

I haven't yet figured a career out, my own health, and going shopping for myself rises issues beyond normality. I won't tell you about my womb and spine but birth would affect those things in very detrimental ways. Birth is not a gift upon any woman.

Society makes no sense to me, children struggle in schools for no reasons with nothing useful to learn, bullying and indoctrination and as a parent you have to help them, buy them things, take them to events and the state can pressure you into earning more money if you're divorced and if it thinks that you can earn more, that just makes autistic issues with jobs even worse. The idea is to progress not make life impossible and become a tree branching out affecting everyone around you in negative ways.

The idea of children was not invented, nature is not enlightened and has not made the best choices for humanity, contrary to that, we walk on two legs which is inferior to our ancestors, among other important things. It disturbs me what society created, and we also have Putin, and most of my exes, family members and their friends, its 'proud' creations.

There's no reason to propagate the madness. Neighbors can't stand me and understand me. They say it's a prison, the building we live in packed up yet they still breed. Don't they realize that these people are the result of births? The state of not having available space and homes is a result of communism refusal to offer contraceptive means. We are but a tool for the state to achieve its goals. Humanoids who get married and have children get benefits. There's no tests to see if the couple is fit for one another or for children, if the state wishes so badly to meddle in the population's breeding program. And you can get pregnant at 12.

Breeding is a huge responsibility. Human beings are rarely using their logical brain in their decision making. Such a thing does not become taught in families and schools. There forms an imbalance between overpopulation and undereducation.

That is also why some wanted and unwanted pregnancies happen.

There are times when humans have some personality traits that expose them to risk taking. Because humans have not intelligently chosen whom to sleep with they have created personality and intelligence disadvantages in the species. We are responsible for the future of humanity when we choose how and whom to have sex with, beyond causing a problem we are not ready for in our or the other person's future.

Risk takers might not pursue treatment for their issues because they are enjoying the momentary satisfaction, and in some cultures or families it is regarded as shameful to start being mentally treated.

Children are disgusting and sociopathic and they will do anything to get their way as proven in a test if they know that nobody was watching them. And people still want children in their homes.

Adults are equally disgusting in their mental demeanors and say about children "oh so cute" but beet please, I might be cute but that's no reason to have kids or torment my cheeks and touch and make me kiss your nasty stinky faces, I'm not an object to be played with. Get a stuffed toy.

Or like mom when she was gift giving to men children. Mom, can't you just buy watches.

Then she complains why I have hair on my legs, stop sleeping with hairy men, mom. I know dad's name is practically wolf but you gotta keep your werewolf fetishes in check.

Oh hell no, mom has done enough damage and this needs to be fixed.

You said: "for every situation there is a solution" but we have a solution to fix all that comprises parenting you have mentioned and more - through the cessation of breeding.

My male gynecologist had been surprised that I said anyway I don't want children when he was talking about my fertility as a treatment plan. He was like shocked and tried to tell me to stop saying that or dismiss it.
However the fact that I also needed contraceptive pill as a treatment made him say it is enough to prevent pregnancy but I don't think he was thinking that I won't want it in the future.
I was also trying to teach him multiple contraceptive methods give higher defense rates.

I don't identify with regrets, I have done psychological work with myself regarding that, more or less I would expect everyone to do but too many aren't interested in mental health. In fact it annoys me when someone regrets, because I'm so far from it that I almost can't empathize with such people anymore and because it's suffering lacking reason.

In fact I'm very easy going with my future and feeling enough with the least complications. I also no longer need to find a purpose because I have accepted that not everyone is a celebrity and that it's all value that is imagined. Everything we own and have is value that os unnecessary for happiness or feeling enough. It's a mind construct which when I sat down to think about the value of a family, of money, of anything really it turned out everything owned is not actually important and it's the same, and not only that but comparable to nothing.

At the same time I have found that traits are somehow valuable in interaction: charm - to be likeable to others, motivation, courage, wisdom. And things I like in myself: creativity, curiosity, loyalty, equality.

I felt sadness or 'loss' for something that would never happen, after the end of my engagement, I would go at night and spin a child's spinning seats and would imagine the child, however I was very at peace finally thanks to that fact, because I knew it was the best and right thing for my life to not have children. I'm just very logical and can't romanticize mistakes into reality, no matter how emotionally vulnerable I am.

There was a group dedicated to shaming people on the spectrum for not desiring to have children so I am glad about that too, that I am not like the others following a flow and the fact we'd get targeted is a positive confirmation that we are deep thinkers and victims who are naturally good.

Much of that is people dismissing and not listening to other people, especially done to children because they are not developed, so people think they don't have a mind of their own.

But we're talking about children, not just trying out some new food, it's a lifetime commitment, and it's sentient. People take pet ownership more seriously sometimes than having children, which is odd.

It is true that as a species we act dumb a lot on a daily basis, I think is a point worth considering not expecting much and being forgiving sometimes but it's not like we're causing harm by disagreeing with their behaviors and perspectives.

Last edited by Rexi on 18 Mar 2023, 2:41 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Yeah. If you are set against it, that's all well and good, but many are not sure. If you are on the fence - well, all I can say is that I think people, women in particular, regret not having children more often than they regret having them. It's a very deeply ingrained urge that often surfaces right at the close - often causing an overwhelming tidal wave of misery if it turns out to have been left too late - which is why medical professionals are very wary about doing things that might make people permanently unable to procreate.

Like you have exemplified, I'm very clock ticking unimpressed, I don't make big decisions on the spur of the moment out of fear for my own self.

I would have to think who I'm leaving behind when I go into the gutter rather than that I'm gonna die unfulfilled fast, which I think should be priority.

Desperate partners are annoying and pushy, and by no means logical and impressive. And if those will be parents the children are doomed in more ways than one.

Women on the spectrum are male-brained, that might explain some differences, also more in control of their instincts, emotions and social expectations, they don't make it a modus vivandi without giving thought.

They also have a harder time with social tests and interaction; it should be easier to get birth control than to have children in society (especially to encourage orphan adoption), but unfortunately it's the opposite.

Last edited by Rexi on 18 Mar 2023, 3:11 pm, edited 2 times in total.

You didn't reach the umbilical cord to strangle yourself with it before coming out into this cruel life?

Well thats fine with me if you dont want kids but I want as many kids as possible with my future wife since I am Quiverfull.

She's worried it will make her feel unwanted.

The same people who say they want the guv'ment to stay out of their business are the same people who want the government to regulate breeding.

Your life...
Your choice...
I am not a social activist...
I am simply presenting a POV.