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17 Apr 2023, 6:17 pm

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it’s no surprise so many people among minorities hold CRT to be more than “just a theory.”



If you do a search of recent news articles about Critical Race Theory, most of them are from right-wing nutjob rags rather than from non-white people.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/c ... -colleges/

The National Review wrote:

It’s clear by now how the Left uses educational institutions to propagandize as many students as possible. Equipping students with some basic knowledge and skills is a low priority compared with ensuring that they absorb the notions that will turn them against American traditions and into social-justice warriors....



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bidens ... ace-theory

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Julie Su, President Biden's pick to lead the Department of Labor (DOL), has been a leading proponent of critical race theory (CRT) for decades, dating back to her time as a civil rights lawyer...

The conference's attendees included Derrick Bell, who has been described as the "godfather of CRT," and Lani Guinier, who former President Bill Clinton nominated for assistant attorney general but whose nomination was withdrawn after criticism about her views on racial justice and voting rights. In addition to CRT, conference attendees discussed "Queer Theory" and "LatCrit Theory."...

...Critical Race Theory asserts that Western society is steeped in persistent racial oppression, which law plays a significant role in creating and maintaining...



https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/ ... on-failing

The Heritage Foundation wrote:

Critical Race Theorists Admit Their Revolution Is Failing

It was a bit cognitively dissonant last month when some of critical race theory’s best-known merchants began whining that their campaign to transform society had hit a rough patch.

Surely, they couldn’t be serious? Woke orthodoxy is firmly in place in all the cultural centers and even at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Then along came a report from one of the cathedrals of the woke canon, the University of California-Los Angeles, which cataloged just how extensive the groundswell of resistance to CRT has been over the past two years. It seems that state legislators and local policymakers have responded to grassroots opposition to CRT with a raft of measures and are getting better at passing them...

...the would-be revolutionaries pushed too hard, too fast. And Americans pushed back.



Critical Race Theory is now really nothing but a buzzword that right wing rags use to get ignorant White folks angry.

Lyndon Johnson wrote:

If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.



And, that is really what it is all about. Getting ignorant White folks upset, and scared of losing their privileges.


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18 Apr 2023, 5:11 am

IDK if I see them as nutjobs. They aren’t exactly wrong, either.

It’s just that nobody even cares anymore. I mean, look at how you even got your information. I never would have seen those articles. I certainly don’t care enough to go digging for it, and most folks care even less than I do.



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18 Apr 2023, 5:18 am

To put it another way: people are more concerned over Dylan Mulvaney and Bud Light than they are of CRT.

I’m a Yuengling guy, anyway, so whatever.



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18 Apr 2023, 7:14 am

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It's very reassuring to know that if I don't like Twitter, I can simply create my own platform and grow it till it's so colossal it can shout Twitter down.

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18 Apr 2023, 7:50 am

AngelRho wrote:
To put it another way: people are more concerned over Dylan Mulvaney and Bud Light than they are of CRT.



That's just the right-wing-nutjob outrage of the week. And, they're having to back track, because it turns out that Anheuser-Busch is a major donor to right-wing-nutjob political causes.

Before, it was CRT. Then "woke" M&M candies (because one of the colors became less sexy). Then "woke" Legos toys (because some of the dolls had disabilities). Then "woke" Mr. Potato Head dolls (even though Mr. Potato Head never had a penis in the first place).

Next week, it will be some other nonsense, like "woke" pretzels, just to keep the ignorant "conservative" masses in a state of hysteria.


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18 Apr 2023, 10:26 am

Pretzels are twisted.No telling what they are up to with our children.


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18 Apr 2023, 11:14 am

AngelRho wrote:
CRT takes that a step further by pointing out the WHITE hegemony that has always denied POC progress. They aren’t ENTIRELY wrong. Think about desegregation. They didn’t bus white kids to black schools. They bused black kids into white schools. Were black people involved in making those decisions? No. White people took away black rights under slavery, and under civil rights gave black people rights under WHITE PEOPLE terms. CRT’s goals will never be achieved as long as white people maintain the hegemony. It will require a hegemonic shift in which blacks have complete control. The best white people can do is acknowledge their racism and stay out of the way.

CRT is claimed to be strictly a legal theory discussed in graduate programs. The Fox News Bogeyman you mentioned is typically that CRT is taught in elementary school. Supposedly its concepts are too advanced for elementary school. However, instances are known of elementary teachers using curriculum that essentially teach white kids that there is something wrong with being white, that their skin color is something to be ashamed of. So it’s a lie to say CRT isn’t being taught at that level when its foundations are clearly being taught. Moreover, teachers are required to have college degrees. Part of that requires training in social issues to include CRT, which in turn will have an influence in what teachers do in the classroom. The idea is that black people are unable to generate change through the usual political pathways, but can cause change through the education system.

It’s not that I’m in favor of racism. It’s wrong to deny people rights based on skin color. But suggesting that white people should be made to feel guilty just for being white, or that I’m “fragile” if I disagree? I don’t think that does anything to help the cause. You can’t solve racism with more racism.


If CRT is being taught at schools, doesn't that imply there is some degree of Black Hedgemony in society? Or maybe it is just white people teaching other whites to hate themselves? Actually, now that I think about it, even without CRT or black topics, I could see various valid reasons for whites to hate themselves, one reason could be since they've built such a dystopian society as is.



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18 Apr 2023, 8:30 pm

To the extent that CRT is on any curriculum, it's pretty much only going to be in the Humanities departments of universities and not even every university.



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18 Apr 2023, 9:23 pm

Honey69 wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
To put it another way: people are more concerned over Dylan Mulvaney and Bud Light than they are of CRT.



That's just the right-wing-nutjob outrage of the week. And, they're having to back track, because it turns out that Anheuser-Busch is a major donor to right-wing-nutjob political causes.

Before, it was CRT. Then "woke" M&M candies (because one of the colors became less sexy). Then "woke" Legos toys (because some of the dolls had disabilities). Then "woke" Mr. Potato Head dolls (even though Mr. Potato Head never had a penis in the first place).

Next week, it will be some other nonsense, like "woke" pretzels, just to keep the ignorant "conservative" masses in a state of hysteria.


Why are the woke left so eager to cancel Tucker Carlson's jerking off to the green M&M? I thought they were all about sexual freedom but now poor Tuckums has to Google 'green M&M rule 34' instead of just waiting for the next commercial to giv'r a tug. This should outrage patriotic candyfuckers nationwide.


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19 Apr 2023, 6:27 am

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To the extent that CRT is on any curriculum, it's pretty much only going to be in the Humanities departments of universities and not even every university.

Ok. But where do you think teachers come from? Who do you think the professors are who teach all the required courses teachers have to pass?

Lessons learned from Soviet failure are that favorable hegemonic shifts cannot happen unless a majority is willing to accept it. Education is compulsory in the USA. The real seat of power isn’t government. It’s academia where activist professors have more sway over what children are taught and how.



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19 Apr 2023, 7:17 am

AngelRho wrote:
RandoNLD wrote:
To the extent that CRT is on any curriculum, it's pretty much only going to be in the Humanities departments of universities and not even every university.

Ok. But where do you think teachers come from? Who do you think the professors are who teach all the required courses teachers have to pass?

Lessons learned from Soviet failure are that favorable hegemonic shifts cannot happen unless a majority is willing to accept it. Education is compulsory in the USA. The real seat of power isn’t government. It’s academia where activist professors have more sway over what children are taught and how.


So, what is the problem? Do you think that nobody should know anything about Critical Race Theory? Even enough to have a cogent opinion?


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19 Apr 2023, 8:02 am

By the by, to get back to the original topic:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-65067707

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Hundreds of Russian and Chinese state propaganda accounts are thriving on Twitter after Elon Musk wiped out the team that fought these networks, the BBC has found.

The unit worked to combat "information operations", coordinated campaigns by countries such as Russia, China, and Iran, made to influence public opinion and disrupt democracy.

But experts and former employees say the majority of these specialists resigned or were laid off, leaving the platform vulnerable to foreign manipulation...

...Organised groups of people posting coordinated messages are called 'troll farms.' The term was first used by Russian reporters who exposed one of roughly 300 paid employees run by Yevgeny Prigozhin, head of the Wagner mercenary group.

Since then, troll farms influencing elections and public opinion have been uncovered in many countries, from Poland and Turkey to Brazil and Mexico. They have also been used as a propaganda tool in ethnic conflicts and wars.

Now, a new group of Russian trolls is active on Twitter.

It supports Putin's war in Ukraine, ridicules Kyiv and the West, and attacks independent Russian-language publications, including the BBC Russian Service....


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20 Apr 2023, 6:46 pm

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I recall a time when there was an influx of Christians who were blatantly and often attacked in PPR. Once there were enough complaints about how we were treated, there was a mass exodus of atheists and feminists from WP.



Jesus wrote:

Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.



Christians are supposed to rejoice and be exceedingly glad when they are persecuted. If Christians tattle on their persecutors, and go so far as to cause the persecution to cease, then this might have a deleterious impact on them in the after-life.

Ideally, the market between Christians seeking persecution, and atheists/feminists seeking to persecute, should clear. Pareto Efficiency, they call it.

You've described a market failure, which led to a net loss of economic value, with many would-be participants leaving the market, possibly due (in part) to over-regulation.

Christians should welcome, and actively seek out atheists and feminists to revile them. This should help the economy to move towards a Pareto-optimal outcome.

Perhaps the forum rules should be amended, to encourage persecution and reviling of Christians.


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21 Apr 2023, 6:13 am

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21 Apr 2023, 6:23 am

Honey69 wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
RandoNLD wrote:
To the extent that CRT is on any curriculum, it's pretty much only going to be in the Humanities departments of universities and not even every university.

Ok. But where do you think teachers come from? Who do you think the professors are who teach all the required courses teachers have to pass?

Lessons learned from Soviet failure are that favorable hegemonic shifts cannot happen unless a majority is willing to accept it. Education is compulsory in the USA. The real seat of power isn’t government. It’s academia where activist professors have more sway over what children are taught and how.


So, what is the problem? Do you think that nobody should know anything about Critical Race Theory? Even enough to have a cogent opinion?

Because teaching CRT means making people feel guilty for being born the wrong skin color. You can’t solve racism with more racism.

CRT also says that it’s impossible for non-white people to be racist. I can’t recall the exact rationalization right now. I think maybe it’s because all minorities are oppressed by white men, therefore it’s expected minorities would hate white men. There’s no reason for white men to hate minorities, so it’s only racist when white men do it.

And yes, “white men”—the choice of words was deliberate.



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21 Apr 2023, 6:25 am

Honey69 wrote:
AngelRho wrote:

I recall a time when there was an influx of Christians who were blatantly and often attacked in PPR. Once there were enough complaints about how we were treated, there was a mass exodus of atheists and feminists from WP.



Jesus wrote:

Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.



Christians are supposed to rejoice and be exceedingly glad when they are persecuted. If Christians tattle on their persecutors, and go so far as to cause the persecution to cease, then this might have a deleterious impact on them in the after-life.

Ideally, the market between Christians seeking persecution, and atheists/feminists seeking to persecute, should clear. Pareto Efficiency, they call it.

You've described a market failure, which led to a net loss of economic value, with many would-be participants leaving the market, possibly due (in part) to over-regulation.

Christians should welcome, and actively seek out atheists and feminists to revile them. This should help the economy to move towards a Pareto-optimal outcome.

Perhaps the forum rules should be amended, to encourage persecution and reviling of Christians.

So you hate Christians. Got it.

Remind me, what was it you were previously banned for? I meant to tell you welcome back to WP!