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14 Jul 2024, 8:31 am

Former President Trump was taunting the gunman, standing up and shaking his fist after the assasination attempt.
This is poor judgement, a President should be trying to minimize, not maximize, the carnage from such a horrific event.
Every shot fired into a crowded venue is likely to cause serious harm, as there is no place for the bullet to land safely!
He ought to know that, as many shootings have occurred under his watch.

In the NBA, taunting is unsportsmanlike conduct. If a player has previously demonstrated unsportsmanlike conduct, that player is ejected from the game!

Shouldn't someone with nuclear launch codes be better than that?



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14 Jul 2024, 8:52 am

The gunman was a loser, why not taunt him?

He done the same to Salman Abedi.

I generally lean towards the right, I'm not really a fan of Trump though, but any political assassination attempt, irrespective of political party, unless absolutely necessary is indeed the act of a loser.



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14 Jul 2024, 8:55 am

You rise some good points. However the name of the thread is slightly misleading as it sounds as if it's Trump who's being taunted, not the other way round.

It certainly seems in keeping with his character to behave in that way though.


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14 Jul 2024, 9:03 am

Yes...but.

I think Trump is a disgusting human being and a serious danger to the world but he is, just about, a human and any human who just had a bullet clip his ear should probably be forgiven a lack of composure in the following moments.


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14 Jul 2024, 9:48 am

I don't have much issue with his behaviour in this situation.



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14 Jul 2024, 10:02 am

Me neither


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14 Jul 2024, 12:27 pm

If you watch the full video, he spent several minutes below the podium and it appeared that the Secret Service tried multiple times to get him to stand up and he couldn't/wouldn't (fear? shock?) and they finally had to physically pull him up to get him out of there. When I saw the fist in the air, it read to me as him trying to make it seem like he was courageous and strong, to cover how he was actually feeling. We know he's a coward, so this would be in keeping with his personality. The one thing he's talented at is being a con artist showman.


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14 Jul 2024, 1:08 pm

I'll bet the whole thing was staged. The photos themselves look very fake, I thought they were when I first saw them. The blood looks photoshopped and is too cherry-red. The racist sexist anti-autistic orange man is such a huge narcissist it wouldn't surprising he had this staged, his brainwashed MAGA lemmings already think he's God and now have an even "bigger" reason to hate those who oppose Orange Man.

I know this all sounds like a bunch of extreme left nonsense, but there are people who believe the holocaust was fake, the moon landing was fake, the moon itself is fake, the sky and the clouds fake. Compared to that, this is relatively less unhinged.



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14 Jul 2024, 1:20 pm

lostonearth35 wrote:
I'll bet the whole thing was staged. The photos themselves look very fake, I thought they were when I first saw them. The blood looks photoshopped and is too cherry-red. The racist sexist anti-autistic orange man is such a huge narcissist it wouldn't surprising he had this staged, his brainwashed MAGA lemmings already think he's God and now have an even "bigger" reason to hate those who oppose Orange Man.

I know this all sounds like a bunch of extreme left nonsense, but there are people who believe the holocaust was fake, the moon landing was fake, the moon itself is fake, the sky and the clouds fake. Compared to that, this is relatively less unhinged.


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14 Jul 2024, 1:22 pm

I do agree though that this real flesh wound allows Trump to "have his cake and eat it to".

Be a martyr, AND be alive, at the same time.

Might as well just swear him into office right now!



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15 Jul 2024, 7:24 am

Not sure how anyone would think this was staged for a start someone was killed.

Trump was hit in the ear not without injury or pain.

Anyone who thinks Trump staged a gun shot to his ear knows nothing about guns.

A gun shot trajectory has a tolerance that can vary depending how far away. At that distance even a deliberate aim for the ear could easily have gone through his head instead. Any expert would have said that.

US police and army have shooting ranges where it’s common and expected that some shots will go off target.

Not sure why people care so much about Trump , he was quite an ineffective president in power never really did anything too extreme. The main good point is he didn’t get US into any foreign wars although we came close with Iran once.


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15 Jul 2024, 10:32 am



"Live By The Sword Die By The Sword"

"Make Friends With Enemies"

"Turn the Other Cheek"

"The Meek Inherit the Earth"

While All These Aphorisms Might Remind
One of the Hypocrisies Associated With Religion,

You Don't Have to Believe in Myths to Make Good
Use of 'Time Withstanding Aphorisms' As Generally

Speaking Folks Who Have REALLY BEEN TO LIFE AND DEATH
WAR will naturally through the Wisdom of Experience Follow

ALonG With These 'Tenants of BASIC REAL Survival.'

Reality: We Are All one Breath Away From Life or Death...

Reality: If You Test That Reality in a Negative Way of Actions

Long Enough the Consequences Eventually Do Usually Catch Up With You...

It Doesn't Matter How Many Wars You've Survived, You Are Still Not Really Faster than a Speeding Bullet...

It Doesn't Take
A Genius or
A Hero to Pull a Trigger...

If You Play Your Cards Right
And Don't Live by the Sword;

And Make Friends With Enemies;

And Turn the Other Cheek In Terms
Of Walking Away From a Potential Fight,

In The Reality of Surviving Reality Per Actions
And Consequences; Statistically, You Have a Much

Better Chance
of Surviving

Life With Less Stress

And Less Bloodshed Indeed...

It's Karma; NO ONE ESCAPES ACTIONS AND CONSEQUENCES...

We aRe Born, We Die; Make the Best of it or Go Away Earlier...

i've Known REAL War Heroes, Who Have Actually Taken Blood and Given it Away
in Real Life or Death Situations. They are Some of the Most Loving Kind Peaceful

COMPASSIONATE

Human Beings

You'll Ever Come ACross

As They've Already Tasted Mortality...

They are Actually Smart and Not Real Fools...

Only Real Fools Taunt Reality and Believe They'll Survive...

Karma: You Can Run Yet Eventually You Will Not Hide...

It's Simple,
Actions Make
Consequences Real...

'Don't Shoot Yourself on 5th Avenue...'

'They' Say "He's" Learned a Lesson, Time
Will Tale the

Story Now...

For All
of US
Of Course...

LEarn to Kiss 'Karma...'

'Like a Chameleon,' Hehe...

Don't Bruise IT every day...

As eventually IT bites back...

Nothing Really Mythological OR Personal; Just Reality..:)



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15 Jul 2024, 5:10 pm

^If you live for 78 years and behaving like a tool the whole time has only brought you success and riches, I have my doubts that a fleeting brush with mortality will provoke much lasting change.


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15 Jul 2024, 5:37 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
I don't have much issue with his behaviour in this situation.

Same, I think it would have been better if he hadn't said, "fight, fight fight" as he was leaving, but it's a completely understandable reaction.



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15 Jul 2024, 5:53 pm

I keep misreading this title as 'Taking a Trump'. :lol:


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15 Jul 2024, 6:28 pm

Of course he's angry. Crooks was supposed to miss.