Will 'Crazy Cat Ladies' be this election's 'deplorables'?
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The left can't be dissuaded further from voting for Trump, moderates can be.
It's another example of how the GOP is beholden to creepy weirdos who want to dictate what people do in their bedrooms. They don't believe childless Americans are really invested in their country.
What I'm talking about is how narratives proliferate in the media and online. I'm talking about the momentum of stories that originate in the extremes and then permeates into the centre - the moderates you mention.
The deplorables thing had momentum because it played into existing right-wing narratives and could be used to push the centre ground further right. It was an 'Aha!' moment.
I don't think the cat lady thing will be pushed by the left so much because it isn't an 'Aha!' moment. It's a '*sigh*' moment. So it won't get a chance to influence the moderates much.
That's my prediction, anyway, for what it's worth.
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Why can't you just keep the cat? does your son live with you and doesn't like cats or something?
He said at one point it was because his girlfriend was allergic to cats. She stays here several days per week and he said it was straining their relationship. I wouldn't want them to break up so that would be important. I talked to her and she's not allergic. She said it's all about him fearing loss.
When I talked to him again he said I couldn't afford it - but the vet fees are free and I get pet insurance for anything unexpected for $27/month. He doesn't do any of the work for the cats so it's just been really confusing since it's my house and I pay all the bills and I thought / assumed I get to do whatever I want. I've never asked his permission to bring a pet home before and he's always loved them, but he reminded me it's a democracy and this time he votes no.
He would be required to participate in a Zoom video with a panel of people from the rescue plus the foster family, and say that he agrees with the adoption. He refuses to do the Zoom so I had to no choice but to back out after all the arrangements had been made (13 page application, 40 minute personal interview, they phoned my vet as a reference, they told the foster mother I would adopt, etc.) For one thing he hates Zoom or being on camera, for any reason (ASD). I even bribed offered to reward him financially for doing the Zoom, and offered to write a formal note to him stating I promise this is the last cat or I'll pay him thousands of bucks if I ever get another , but he still said no. I tried everything. The worst part is that I worry about his mental health. Yes, that's more important to me than any cat.
It's been very awkward and stressful to say the least. I feel like an idiot with the Rescue, who thinks I just flaked out for no reason, or that I'm irresponsible. I didn't think it was right to share my son's private mental health information with them so I took the hit myself by being vague. A month later the kitty is still in foster and no one is applying for her, because she was on hold for me at her prime adoption age. I feel very guilty.
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I just wouldn’t know what to say about folks who wouldn’t have much of a problem with Trump’s sexual abuse (etc.) and lousy policies but who draw the line at being called a “crazy cat lady” by Vance. Of course, people are weird. Maybe there’s more individuals like that out there than I think.
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I just wouldn’t know what to say about folks who wouldn’t have much of a problem with Trump’s sexual abuse (etc.) and lousy policies but who draw the line at being called a “crazy cat lady” by Vance. Of course, people are weird. Maybe there’s more individuals like that out there than I think.
There ARE folks (middle aged, male, farmer types) Ive seen on camera who say "I was leaning to Trump, but now that Harris is running I may vote for her".
Back in '16 there were Americans who said that "the two most interesting candidates are Trump and Bernie Sanders".
Both were populist rebels within their respective parties. But Sanders and Trump were so unalike in policies, demeanor, and character, that it boogles the mind how they would appeal to the same voters. But apparently they did.
So...who can explain a Trump voter?
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If not "Crazy Cat Lady" how about Trump saying Kamila Harris decided to turn black?
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Radical deplorable.
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The remark about deplorables was way more damaging. The Democratic Party has always identified as a the Party of the Common Man, much like the Labour Party in the UK, but Hillary's comment was inarguably élitist and did lasting damage to the Democrats. Just by itself, it probably cost the Democrats the election in 2016, and may still do so in 2024 unless Democrats can reach out to the voters who took offense at that, especially small business owners, socially conservative Blacks, and a great many Christians belonging to groups that had "traditionally" been Democratic e.g. trade unionists.
The Crazy Cat Lady thing is good for a laugh but not much more
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@lostonearth35: I'm so sorry for your loss!
I hope it sinks Trump's campaign. Trump's campaign should have been sunk a long time ago, though. The instant the Access Hollywood tapes were released he should have been done. But somehow the righteous holier-than-thou conservative Evangelicals who call me depraved and a degenerate for wanting to date other women, turned around and worshiped a man who bragged about sexual assault.
I can't see how the deplorable statement isn't true. I don't trust myself being alone in a room with a Trump supporter, especially a male one. I don't know how he justifies going all out in supporting a sexual predator and I don't want to find out.
The thing about Vance's statements, though, is that they're straight-up shaming us for being childless - an already strange obsession for the right. It's good to encourage having children, I suppose... But the way the right goes about it is completely wrong. The way that a government should encourage is not by shaming us women for having freedoms, it's instead by doing a number of things, just a few (there are many more) I'll list below:
1. Improving women's healthcare research and improving the safety and decreasing the risks of childbirth.
2. Making healthcare more accessible, and less expensive.
3. Making it so we can afford to live to begin with, so having a child can even be something we can envision.
But of course, the right doesn't want to solve any of that. It's inconvenient to them to fund things and make standard of living better for us on the ground when it might cost their billionaire donors a penny more. So instead they seek making a hostile culture toward us and also going down the road of authoritarianism (taking away our reproductive rights and freedoms). Screw them.
Specifically on the "cat lady" remark... I had that same remark lobbed at me very recently in an attempt to dismiss what I was saying. We weren't talking politics, we weren't talking children, we weren't talking anything like that. Just randomly had that thrown at me in a conversation and I'm like WTF. I just love having sexist remarks made at me to dismiss my opinions. /s
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The Crazy Cat Lady thing is good for a laugh but not much more
If anything, it really seems like more evidence of how fragile the guys who LARP as cowboys and paramilitaries really are. Hillary called a spade a spade and America's creepy uncles collectively lost their s**t.
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The Crazy Cat Lady thing is good for a laugh but not much more
If anything, it really seems like more evidence of how fragile the guys who LARP as cowboys and paramilitaries really are. Hillary called a spade a spade and America's creepy uncles collectively lost their s**t.
Problem was even though she specifically said she was generalizing about half of Trump voters and the other half had legitimate grievances it played into her image as a cold elitist, and the image that liberal coastal elitists looked down on people in flyover country and their lifestyles. While Hillary’s comment about Trump voters had a basis in truth so did the idea about coastal elitists looking down on people like them. Bottom line the comment was a whopper of an unforced error.
Vance’s comment may very well be as damaging if not more then Hillary’s, it is really, really bad. It has not gotten nearly as intense as the Democrat revolt against Biden but the conservative dump Vance movement is a thing. People in flyover know sane women who have legitimate reasons for not having children. As has been pointed out it is not like Trump does not enjoy firing people.
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