Patriotism = Imperialism

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Patriotism ("I love my country") basically equates to "I think my countrys better than other countries"

"I think my countrys better than other countrys" is very close to saying "Other countrys shoud serve my country"

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I love my country, and consider myself almost a super-patriot.

I don't think my country is better than others. In fact, as long as we are being governed by a mass-murder, I'm ashamed of my country. Which is why I won't rest until George Bush and his criminal gang stand trial in the world court for crimes against humanity. Then I can once again be proud of the country I love.

Wait werent our founding fathers patroits because they thought our country should be free.

Nah. One can be patriotic [deliberately misspelled to rhyme with neurotic ;] saying, "My country is better than your country. So we aren't going to trade with you or anything." This is isolationist policy, totally different from imperialism (the opposite in some ways) but still patriotic.

Can also be imperalist w/o being patriotic. (E.g. Other countries should serve "me", the new emperor of the world order.)

Granted, the 2 are so compatible and similitar that they often go hand in hand.

Patriotic is just way too lose of a word to define that strictly.

You did know that Bush II negotiated a free pass from the World Court, didn't you? He didn't want the same embarassing black mark on his report card that they gave his father.

How about "Our country is better than your country. We are here for you if you need us."

That's where real greatness is. I am not greater than other animals because I am human and can dominate them. I am great because I will take care of them, protect them, and be there for them.

biiiiiiiiiiiiig difference between patriotism and nationalism.

No, I'm not aware of this. Please explain.

Good luck! Any 'evidence' trumped up against Bush would be a tota sham make the case for most of the Nuremberg trials look legit (a couple were legit but mishandled). It's all irrelevant because Bush currently has enough power to have the members of any tribunal killed anyway. It would be far easier for Bush to put members of the UN on a sham trial (trying the reresentatives that sat are sitting on their thumbs over Sudan would be legit enough) than the other way around.

This made the mainstream news just a few weeks ago.

BBC article

If I remember correctly, and I could be wrong, the excuse for the invasion of Iraq was that Saddam Hussein committed war crimes and it was our job to stop it and punish him for this. A lot of people won't understand where I got the idea that those who enforce such laws should live by them. In fact, one might expect the enforcers of such laws to demand to live by them, they are such good laws that over a thousand of our own were sacrificed in their name.

you can Love ones country with out wanting total world domination.

I love my country, as it provides a free envireoment for me to exist. Do I think its better than all the others out there? not entirely. would I take up arms and defend if we were attacked? you bet. Being a patriot means that you are willing to defend, be that verbally or even physically if it came to it, or otherwise support your nation and defend the ideals that that nation was founded on. In being a patriot, you may not fully agree with every single thing that the country stands for, and you may not even be a citizen of that nation, but you are willing to do what you can in support of that nation.

Patriotism is blind and foolish. It is the product of mass indoctrination to coerce the population into defending the interests of a small elite.

Right now, it seems there is a war between capitalist dogs (USA) and terrorist radicals, and to be honest, they are both as bad as each other. In fact, the capitalists are even worse than the terrorists.....its just they kill their victims in a different way (mass 3rd world starvation and global warming) to the terrorists.

Yes but we (as are they) are sitting around and doing nothing for whats going on in Darfur and that would be a much easier sham trial.

But for the defence of government in any form then what? Without patriotism the coheasion that bonds a free nation together would be based on what? Why defend or support what you do not have faith in?

Without patriotism the only coheasion would be administered by force. Martial Law, or a "rule by the iron fist".

or anarchy.


A person, as you or I, is smart and able to see things. But PEOPLE, as in a group (state, city, nation, school, what ever) are stupid. And the best mentality to prevent anarchy from reinging or preventing a totaliaran rule, etc is to encourage pride in ones country. Its more than just a small elite, its the health of an entire nation at stake. If nothing exists to hold things together, than nothing together can exist.
RobertN, I would have thought you'd have thought of that.

*remembers why she has a reference to robertn in her signature*

that reminds me of this quote "politician- someone who will sacrifice your life for his country."