ABORTION

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The only way that society is completely in favor of equality is if males can have children.
It may be possible

Hey wait that was my point. i did a whole tangent somewhere about the religious right and capitol punishment hipocracies.

My views can be found here: http://www.wrongplanet.net/asperger.htm ... 0629#80629 And it's funny... I don't have a heavy stance on the death penalty but find the idea emotionally repugnant at best; but my mother DOES... she is AGAINST not only abortion and the death penalty, but any type of war. She's completely anti-death. Perhaps she's an exception, but perhaps a noteworthy one, just so you know such excpetions exist.

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Hey, I would just like to make a polite reminder that there are no personal attacks allowed here. Please keep this debate thread civil for all to enjoy.

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Namiko (as mod)

LOL and PMS? You have my vote

depends on who you ask. There are, as I have meantioned in other threads, even pharmasists and doctors that REFUSE to fill or perscribe birth control pills because IF an egg was fertilized then it MIGHT be aborted by the body when the woman starts her peroid at the end of the pill pack. THAT, in my opnion, is a step back to the dark ages. Women have a right to BIRTH CONTROL. Pregnancy Preventions should be covered by insurance (most companies dont), after viagra is covered..... DOUBLE STANDARD

the morning after pill, if used properly is not technally abortion. it can take up to 72 hours for the egg to be fertilized after the initial, uhmmm, introduction of male cells. Many pregnancies are absorbed by the body, spontaniously aborted, or whatever NATURALLY by the female body many times before the female even knows or suspects she is pregnate.

Personally, I feel that after, say, three months, abortion should be limited to special cirmstances (rape, insest, medical issues, etc) and the it should NEVER EVER be used to select gender!! !! I think after the fetus is able to survive outside the womb, then abortion should not occor. At that point, the fetus could be removed (if health reasons require) and could, with medical assistance survive. Partial-birth abortions, in my opinion, should not be an option. If the mother is in that kind of danger, then a C section could be done to remove the baby.

As far as unwanted babies, well adoption is an option. BUT they should make it more affordable, and set reasonable limitations. for example, If a woman is overweight, she CAN be rejected as an adoption applicant. Same goes if she has a "dangerous" occupation. I dont care for that limitation

yeah that would kill the debate. abortion would be universally allowed without any conditions at all!

Woah... scalding hot water! Should I jump in?

Oh Hells, I'll bite.

I havent made up my mind about abortion, but I admit that I get a bit apprehensive when someone wants to have an abortion a month or so before they give delivery. I believe its called partial-birth abortion, right? I really think the whole issue of abortion wouldnt be as bad if we spetn more money developing better counter-measures to prevent this sort of thing. Instead, we have politicians who want to ban every little pill that is being tested because of their personal beliefs.

That being said, asking the mother to put up the kid for adoption isnt an easy thing. Psychologically, how would you feel if you had to go through giving birth to an unwanted offspring and then having them taken away? Even though you never wanted the baby, you'd probably still feel a sense of connection, and immense guilt. There's also the problem that putting up more kids for adoption just adds to the problem. It pushes those who havent been adopted yet farther down the list, and makes it more unlikely that they will be adopted since the older they get, the less desireable they are.

Comkeen,

I agree that many of the "solutions" create more problems. Personally, its none of my business if someone else has an abortion, and I know several women that have and I dont shun them because of it. I also knew some adopted "kids". I cant imagine giving one up for adoption. It would be hard, but then again, If I knew that I was unable to care for a child, I would have to do what I would have to ensure that child had a healthy and loving home. But thats just me, and I know that others might not beable to do that.

I think that better birth control options might be a start. but reminding both genders that its both of their responsibilities to ensure protection and prevention is used is a must. making birthcontrol difficult to obtain for women, as it sometimes is, is unfair and wrong. Equal access is the key....