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02 Dec 2018, 3:14 am

Well it does in reality but ok.

A Mafia victim doesn't really get a choice.


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02 Dec 2018, 3:13 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Well it does in reality but ok.

A Mafia victim doesn't really get a choice.


No, Putin is a strident Russian nationalist. No one can dispute that. Besides, you're forgetting he had worked for the Soviet intelligence apparatus, the KGB - one didn't who had had a moral argument against the Soviet Union.
Mafia victim? Really? Do you seriously think South Koreans would want to exchange their prosperity and freedom for abject poverty and a bleak police state filled with concentration camps, fear, and suspicion?


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02 Dec 2018, 3:31 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Well it does in reality but ok.

A Mafia victim doesn't really get a choice.


No, Putin is a strident Russian nationalist. No one can dispute that. Besides, you're forgetting he had worked for the Soviet intelligence apparatus, the KGB - one didn't who had had a moral argument against the Soviet Union.
Mafia victim? Really? Do you seriously think South Koreans would want to exchange their prosperity and freedom for abject poverty and a bleak police state filled with concentration camps, fear, and suspicion?


I'm not forgetting anything. He doesn't like the bullying US for many reasons. Interference in their business for one, having a drunk traitor US puppet in power. That's the kind of leader the US wants in Russia and in most countries. They don't like being stood up to.
Again, the reality is that it will be the North that has to change. The US needs to get out of there. They support the giant concentration camp in Gaza so let's not pretend the US is against anything like that. Kim likes American culture so there is a good possibility he will budge to make some changes. I doubt the war mongering neocons will let peace happen though.


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02 Dec 2018, 8:09 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Well it does in reality but ok.

A Mafia victim doesn't really get a choice.


No, Putin is a strident Russian nationalist. No one can dispute that. Besides, you're forgetting he had worked for the Soviet intelligence apparatus, the KGB - one didn't who had had a moral argument against the Soviet Union.
Mafia victim? Really? Do you seriously think South Koreans would want to exchange their prosperity and freedom for abject poverty and a bleak police state filled with concentration camps, fear, and suspicion?


I'm not forgetting anything. He doesn't like the bullying US for many reasons. Interference in their business for one, having a drunk traitor US puppet in power. That's the kind of leader the US wants in Russia and in most countries. They don't like being stood up to.
Again, the reality is that it will be the North that has to change. The US needs to get out of there. They support the giant concentration camp in Gaza so let's not pretend the US is against anything like that. Kim likes American culture so there is a good possibility he will budge to make some changes. I doubt the war mongering neocons will let peace happen though.


Yeltsin wasn't a traitor, he wanted to introduce liberty to his country where it had long been absent. Unfortunately, his personal bad habits caught up with him.
Standing up to America is one thing, wanting to see America shrivel into nothingness is quite another. Do you seriously think the rest of western culture, or even many countries outside of it, are going to be happy letting Putin's kleptocracy run the world?
As bad as things are in Gaza, people there still have freedom of movement, can express ideas (unless the fanatics running the place would rather silence them for said ideas), have jobs and businesses, family life, and a few are actually wealthy. Compare that to the labor/death camps the Kims have murdered millions in.
Kim likes American pop culture, but could do without free government and freedom of expression, which are indispensable for American culture.


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04 Dec 2018, 12:08 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Well it does in reality but ok.

A Mafia victim doesn't really get a choice.


No, Putin is a strident Russian nationalist. No one can dispute that. Besides, you're forgetting he had worked for the Soviet intelligence apparatus, the KGB - one didn't who had had a moral argument against the Soviet Union.
Mafia victim? Really? Do you seriously think South Koreans would want to exchange their prosperity and freedom for abject poverty and a bleak police state filled with concentration camps, fear, and suspicion?


I'm not forgetting anything. He doesn't like the bullying US for many reasons. Interference in their business for one, having a drunk traitor US puppet in power. That's the kind of leader the US wants in Russia and in most countries. They don't like being stood up to.
Again, the reality is that it will be the North that has to change. The US needs to get out of there. They support the giant concentration camp in Gaza so let's not pretend the US is against anything like that. Kim likes American culture so there is a good possibility he will budge to make some changes. I doubt the war mongering neocons will let peace happen though.


Yeltsin wasn't a traitor, he wanted to introduce liberty to his country where it had long been absent. Unfortunately, his personal bad habits caught up with him.
Standing up to America is one thing, wanting to see America shrivel into nothingness is quite another. Do you seriously think the rest of western culture, or even many countries outside of it, are going to be happy letting Putin's kleptocracy run the world?
As bad as things are in Gaza, people there still have freedom of movement, can express ideas (unless the fanatics running the place would rather silence them for said ideas), have jobs and businesses, family life, and a few are actually wealthy. Compare that to the labor/death camps the Kims have murdered millions in.
Kim likes American pop culture, but could do without free government and freedom of expression, which are indispensable for American culture.


He wasn't a traitor to the US, he did what they wanted and sold his country out. Lol Putin doesn't have the power for that if he wanted to. He'd much rather get on with the US if it helps Russia. Putin or Russia couldn't run the world. He is only interested in his region anyway.
Uh, No they do not have freedom of movement, that's the whole point. They are trapped in a cage and shot on a regular basis. No they cannot express ideas, the Israeli army has shot 3 journalists dead just this year. They are trapped in a cage and punished by Israel and the US for voting the wrong way. Gaza is a giant concentration camp.
Haha yeah sure, that's why many in the US media have talked about having a real journalist like Julian Assange executed. That's why they have locked up numerous whistle blowers. Give me a break.


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04 Dec 2018, 2:15 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Well it does in reality but ok.

A Mafia victim doesn't really get a choice.


No, Putin is a strident Russian nationalist. No one can dispute that. Besides, you're forgetting he had worked for the Soviet intelligence apparatus, the KGB - one didn't who had had a moral argument against the Soviet Union.
Mafia victim? Really? Do you seriously think South Koreans would want to exchange their prosperity and freedom for abject poverty and a bleak police state filled with concentration camps, fear, and suspicion?


I'm not forgetting anything. He doesn't like the bullying US for many reasons. Interference in their business for one, having a drunk traitor US puppet in power. That's the kind of leader the US wants in Russia and in most countries. They don't like being stood up to.
Again, the reality is that it will be the North that has to change. The US needs to get out of there. They support the giant concentration camp in Gaza so let's not pretend the US is against anything like that. Kim likes American culture so there is a good possibility he will budge to make some changes. I doubt the war mongering neocons will let peace happen though.


Yeltsin wasn't a traitor, he wanted to introduce liberty to his country where it had long been absent. Unfortunately, his personal bad habits caught up with him.
Standing up to America is one thing, wanting to see America shrivel into nothingness is quite another. Do you seriously think the rest of western culture, or even many countries outside of it, are going to be happy letting Putin's kleptocracy run the world?
As bad as things are in Gaza, people there still have freedom of movement, can express ideas (unless the fanatics running the place would rather silence them for said ideas), have jobs and businesses, family life, and a few are actually wealthy. Compare that to the labor/death camps the Kims have murdered millions in.
Kim likes American pop culture, but could do without free government and freedom of expression, which are indispensable for American culture.


He wasn't a traitor to the US, he did what they wanted and sold his country out. Lol Putin doesn't have the power for that if he wanted to. He'd much rather get on with the US if it helps Russia. Putin or Russia couldn't run the world. He is only interested in his region anyway.
Uh, No they do not have freedom of movement, that's the whole point. They are trapped in a cage and shot on a regular basis. No they cannot express ideas, the Israeli army has shot 3 journalists dead just this year. They are trapped in a cage and punished by Israel and the US for voting the wrong way. Gaza is a giant concentration camp.
Haha yeah sure, that's why many in the US media have talked about having a real journalist like Julian Assange executed. That's why they have locked up numerous whistle blowers. Give me a break.


Yeltsin cooperated with the US believing it was for the good of his nation.
Yes, Putin can control the globe if the United States is out of the picture.
I never said life in Gaza was a picnic, but it's still heaven compared to North Korean concentration camps.
Julian Assange a real journalist?!?!?! And the only person who I can think of off hand who talked about killing Assange was Trump - - that is till he started cooperating with Trump's election committee.


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05 Dec 2018, 12:04 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Well it does in reality but ok.

A Mafia victim doesn't really get a choice.


No, Putin is a strident Russian nationalist. No one can dispute that. Besides, you're forgetting he had worked for the Soviet intelligence apparatus, the KGB - one didn't who had had a moral argument against the Soviet Union.
Mafia victim? Really? Do you seriously think South Koreans would want to exchange their prosperity and freedom for abject poverty and a bleak police state filled with concentration camps, fear, and suspicion?


I'm not forgetting anything. He doesn't like the bullying US for many reasons. Interference in their business for one, having a drunk traitor US puppet in power. That's the kind of leader the US wants in Russia and in most countries. They don't like being stood up to.
Again, the reality is that it will be the North that has to change. The US needs to get out of there. They support the giant concentration camp in Gaza so let's not pretend the US is against anything like that. Kim likes American culture so there is a good possibility he will budge to make some changes. I doubt the war mongering neocons will let peace happen though.


Yeltsin wasn't a traitor, he wanted to introduce liberty to his country where it had long been absent. Unfortunately, his personal bad habits caught up with him.
Standing up to America is one thing, wanting to see America shrivel into nothingness is quite another. Do you seriously think the rest of western culture, or even many countries outside of it, are going to be happy letting Putin's kleptocracy run the world?
As bad as things are in Gaza, people there still have freedom of movement, can express ideas (unless the fanatics running the place would rather silence them for said ideas), have jobs and businesses, family life, and a few are actually wealthy. Compare that to the labor/death camps the Kims have murdered millions in.
Kim likes American pop culture, but could do without free government and freedom of expression, which are indispensable for American culture.


He wasn't a traitor to the US, he did what they wanted and sold his country out. Lol Putin doesn't have the power for that if he wanted to. He'd much rather get on with the US if it helps Russia. Putin or Russia couldn't run the world. He is only interested in his region anyway.
Uh, No they do not have freedom of movement, that's the whole point. They are trapped in a cage and shot on a regular basis. No they cannot express ideas, the Israeli army has shot 3 journalists dead just this year. They are trapped in a cage and punished by Israel and the US for voting the wrong way. Gaza is a giant concentration camp.
Haha yeah sure, that's why many in the US media have talked about having a real journalist like Julian Assange executed. That's why they have locked up numerous whistle blowers. Give me a break.


Yeltsin cooperated with the US believing it was for the good of his nation.
Yes, Putin can control the globe if the United States is out of the picture.
I never said life in Gaza was a picnic, but it's still heaven compared to North Korean concentration camps.
Julian Assange a real journalist?!?!?! And the only person who I can think of off hand who talked about killing Assange was Trump - - that is till he started cooperating with Trump's election committee.


Nope, he was a US puppet who sold his country down the river.
Well enjoy your conspiracy theories.
No it isn't heaven compared to North Korean concentration camps. That's a disgusting thing to say. Gaza is a giant concentration camp.
Yes he is a real journalist. He publishes information about war crimes and corruption that the establishment find embarrassing.
Right, which makes the whole "Trump/Russia/Assange" conspiracy theory sound even more ludicrous.


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05 Dec 2018, 5:54 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Well it does in reality but ok.

A Mafia victim doesn't really get a choice.


No, Putin is a strident Russian nationalist. No one can dispute that. Besides, you're forgetting he had worked for the Soviet intelligence apparatus, the KGB - one didn't who had had a moral argument against the Soviet Union.
Mafia victim? Really? Do you seriously think South Koreans would want to exchange their prosperity and freedom for abject poverty and a bleak police state filled with concentration camps, fear, and suspicion?


I'm not forgetting anything. He doesn't like the bullying US for many reasons. Interference in their business for one, having a drunk traitor US puppet in power. That's the kind of leader the US wants in Russia and in most countries. They don't like being stood up to.
Again, the reality is that it will be the North that has to change. The US needs to get out of there. They support the giant concentration camp in Gaza so let's not pretend the US is against anything like that. Kim likes American culture so there is a good possibility he will budge to make some changes. I doubt the war mongering neocons will let peace happen though.


Yeltsin wasn't a traitor, he wanted to introduce liberty to his country where it had long been absent. Unfortunately, his personal bad habits caught up with him.
Standing up to America is one thing, wanting to see America shrivel into nothingness is quite another. Do you seriously think the rest of western culture, or even many countries outside of it, are going to be happy letting Putin's kleptocracy run the world?
As bad as things are in Gaza, people there still have freedom of movement, can express ideas (unless the fanatics running the place would rather silence them for said ideas), have jobs and businesses, family life, and a few are actually wealthy. Compare that to the labor/death camps the Kims have murdered millions in.
Kim likes American pop culture, but could do without free government and freedom of expression, which are indispensable for American culture.


He wasn't a traitor to the US, he did what they wanted and sold his country out. Lol Putin doesn't have the power for that if he wanted to. He'd much rather get on with the US if it helps Russia. Putin or Russia couldn't run the world. He is only interested in his region anyway.
Uh, No they do not have freedom of movement, that's the whole point. They are trapped in a cage and shot on a regular basis. No they cannot express ideas, the Israeli army has shot 3 journalists dead just this year. They are trapped in a cage and punished by Israel and the US for voting the wrong way. Gaza is a giant concentration camp.
Haha yeah sure, that's why many in the US media have talked about having a real journalist like Julian Assange executed. That's why they have locked up numerous whistle blowers. Give me a break.


Yeltsin cooperated with the US believing it was for the good of his nation.
Yes, Putin can control the globe if the United States is out of the picture.
I never said life in Gaza was a picnic, but it's still heaven compared to North Korean concentration camps.
Julian Assange a real journalist?!?!?! And the only person who I can think of off hand who talked about killing Assange was Trump - - that is till he started cooperating with Trump's election committee.


Nope, he was a US puppet who sold his country down the river.
Well enjoy your conspiracy theories.
No it isn't heaven compared to North Korean concentration camps. That's a disgusting thing to say. Gaza is a giant concentration camp.
Yes he is a real journalist. He publishes information about war crimes and corruption that the establishment find embarrassing.
Right, which makes the whole "Trump/Russia/Assange" conspiracy theory sound even more ludicrous.


I for one would prefer to live in Gaza to a North Korean death camp, though I readily admit that life in Gaza is maybe the second worst place in the world.
Well, when we learn what Michael Flynn has been telling Mueller to keep out of prison - about Russian collusion and Assange's role in it all - we'll see what's mere conspiracy theories, and what's established fact.


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06 Dec 2018, 5:19 pm

Which is why it's a good reason to make peace with both Korea and Palestine.
Certainly has nothing to do with Assange. Flynn got in trouble for trying to convince Russia to vote against the condemnation of Israeli settlements.


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06 Dec 2018, 5:59 pm

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Which is why it's a good reason to make peace with both Korea and Palestine.
Certainly has nothing to do with Assange. Flynn got in trouble for trying to convince Russia to vote against the condemnation of Israeli settlements.


Sure, making peace is a good thing, but giving away the store for peace is not.
We'll see just what the extent of Flynn's crimes were.


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06 Dec 2018, 6:23 pm

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Which is why it's a good reason to make peace with both Korea and Palestine.
Certainly has nothing to do with Assange. Flynn got in trouble for trying to convince Russia to vote against the condemnation of Israeli settlements.


Sure, making peace is a good thing, but giving away the store for peace is not.
We'll see just what the extent of Flynn's crimes were.


Just stop bombing people and practicing bombing people. That's a good start.


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06 Dec 2018, 9:24 pm

JohnPowell wrote:
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Which is why it's a good reason to make peace with both Korea and Palestine.
Certainly has nothing to do with Assange. Flynn got in trouble for trying to convince Russia to vote against the condemnation of Israeli settlements.


Sure, making peace is a good thing, but giving away the store for peace is not.
We'll see just what the extent of Flynn's crimes were.


Just stop bombing people and practicing bombing people. That's a good start.


Practicing bombing people has to do with keeping prepared in case an enemy attacks us or our friends. You better believe Russia and North Korea practice bombing people.


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07 Dec 2018, 5:08 pm

You have everything the wrong way round. The US are the threat. That's why North Korea have acquired nukes. Practicing bombing them is to keep up profits for the MIC.


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You have everything the wrong way round. The US are the threat. That's why North Korea have acquired nukes. Practicing bombing them is to keep up profits for the MIC.


Only in Bizarro world.


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07 Dec 2018, 6:28 pm

In reality.


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