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08 May 2021, 12:14 am

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Documents reveal China discussed weaponisation of coronaviruses prior to pandemic
08/05/2021|1min

Documents obtained by the US State Department reveal Chinese military scientists discussed the weaponisation of SARS coronaviruses five years before the COVID-19 pandemic.

Top scientists outlined their ideas in the document predicting a third world war would be fought with biological weapons.


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08 May 2021, 3:33 pm

We didn't see any documents in there.


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08 May 2021, 4:41 pm

Problem being . the media can push many narratives and some will stick . ide like to see the original document then get a Chinese person to translate to confirm the validity of claim .

Very easy to make something up then cast Aspergens . have they even done reports on the illeged source (the market) they suggested was the source of the pandemic yet ?



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08 May 2021, 5:47 pm

I've looked at several news sites reporting this story... None of them have provided the actual document.


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As the world continues to battle the deadly coronavirus pandemic with China receiving widespread criticism over the origin and handling of the virus, new explosive documents have now revealed that China discussed weaponisation of COVID-19. People's Liberation Army (PLA) commanders predicted that World War 3 would be fought with biological weapons, documents obtained by the US State Department reportedly reveal.

The military document titled The Unnatural Origin of SARS and New Species of Man-Made Viruses as Genetic Bioweapons


https://www.republicworld.com/world-new ... apons.html


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08 May 2021, 7:49 pm

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What Countries Have Them? Only 16 countries plus Taiwan have had or are currently suspected of having biological weapons programs: Canada, China, Cuba, France, Germany, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Japan, Libya, North Korea, Russia, South Africa, Syria, the United Kingdom and the United States.30 Dec 2015

The Biological Threat | NTI

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08 May 2021, 7:50 pm

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As the world continues to battle the deadly coronavirus pandemic with China receiving widespread criticism over the origin and handling of the virus, new explosive documents have now revealed that China discussed weaponisation of COVID-19. People's Liberation Army (PLA) commanders predicted that World War 3 would be fought with biological weapons, documents obtained by the US State Department reportedly reveal.

The military document titled The Unnatural Origin of SARS and New Species of Man-Made Viruses as Genetic Bioweapons


https://www.republicworld.com/world-new ... apons.html


The problem with the "weaponising COVID" theory is that China also puts it's own population at risk. What the UN should be doing is forcing China to close down it's disgusting wet markets which torture wildlife and are a breeding ground for future pandemics.



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09 May 2021, 9:20 am

If they were to close the wet markets, the animal trade would go underground and become a black market.
I think China needs to go strong with public education first, to reduce the demand for wildlife products.
And maybe get more serious with wildlife protections and fines to disrupt the supply chain.



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I’ll describe the two theories, explain why each is plausible, and then ask which provides the better explanation of the available facts. It’s important to note that so far there is no direct evidence for either theory. Each depends on a set of reasonable conjectures but so far lacks proof. So I have only clues, not conclusions, to offer. But those clues point in a specific direction. And having inferred that direction, I’m going to delineate some of the strands in this tangled skein of disaster.
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“We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin,” a group of virologists and others wrote in the Lancet on February 19, 2020, when it was really far too soon for anyone to be sure what had happened. Scientists “overwhelmingly conclude that this coronavirus originated in wildlife,” they said, with a stirring rallying call for readers to stand with Chinese colleagues on the frontline of fighting the disease.

Contrary to the letter writers’ assertion, the idea that the virus might have escaped from a lab invoked accident, not conspiracy. It surely needed to be explored, not rejected out of hand. A defining mark of good scientists is that they go to great pains to distinguish between what they know and what they don’t know. By this criterion, the signatories of the Lancet letter were behaving as poor scientists: they were assuring the public of facts they could not know for sure were true.

It later turned out that the Lancet letter had been organised and drafted by Peter Daszak, president of the EcoHealth Alliance of New York. Dr. Daszak’s organization funded coronavirus research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

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10 May 2021, 5:01 am

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If the case that SARS2 originated in a lab is so substantial, why isn’t this more widely known? As may now be obvious, there are many people who have reason not to talk about it. The list is led, of course, by the Chinese authorities. But virologists in the United States and Europe have no great interest in igniting a public debate about the gain-of-function experiments that their community has been pursuing for years.

Nor have other scientists stepped forward to raise the issue. Government research funds are distributed on the advice of committees of scientific experts drawn from universities. Anyone who rocks the boat by raising awkward political issues runs the risk that their grant will not be renewed and their research career will be ended.

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10 May 2021, 10:34 pm

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Bombshell dossier indicates China has been ‘preparing’ for bio-warfare
10/05/2021|8min

A recently uncovered bombshell dossier suggests Chinese scientists have been “preparing” for a Third World War fought with “biological and genetic weapons – including coronavirus,” according to Sky News host Alan Jones.

“The paper by Chinese scientists describes these biological weapons as the core for victory and outlines the ‘perfect’ conditions to release them,” he said.

“The documents obtained by US investigators indicate, presumably at the direction of President Xi, a complete lack of regulation in China’s laboratories, and that the infamous Wuhan Institute of Virology has been collecting numerous coronaviruses from bats ever since the SARS outbreak in 2002.”

Mr Jones questioned where the “collective Western leadership” is to “lay it on the line and challenge China to come clean”.

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_625 ... io-warfare


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11 May 2021, 1:46 am

Alan Jones perhaps would like to share this dossier given what it contains.



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11 May 2021, 10:36 am

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In 2015, Chinese military scientists discussed how to weaponze SARS coronaviruses, five years before the COVID-19 pandemic emerged in Wuhan, China - where CCP scientists were collaborating with a US-funded NGO on so-called 'gain of function' research to make bat coronaviruses infect humans more easily.

In a 263-page document, written by People's Liberation Army scientists and senior Chinese public health officials and obtained by the US State Department during its investigation into the origins of COVID-19, PLA scientists note how a sudden surge of patients requiring hospitalization during a bioweapon attack "could cause the enemy’s medical system to collapse," according to The Weekend Australian (a subsidiary of News Corp).

It suggests that SARS coronaviruses could herald a "new era of genetic weapons," and noted that they can be "artificially manipulated into an emerging human ­disease virus, then weaponized and unleashed in a way never seen before."

The chairmen of the British and Australian foreign affairs and intelligence committees, Tom ­Tugendhat and James Paterson, say the document raises major concerns about China’s lack of transparency over the origins of COVID-19.

The Chinese-language paper, titled The Unnatural Origin of SARS and New Species of Man-Made Viruses as Genetic Bioweapons, outlines China’s progress in the research field of biowarfare.

“Following developments in other scientific fields, there have been major advances in the delivery of biological agents,” it states.

“For example, the new-found ability to freeze-dry micro-organisms has made it possible to store biological agents and aerosolise them during attacks.”

Ten of the authors are scientists and weapons experts affiliated with the Air Force Medical ­University in Xi’an, ranked “very high-risk” for its level of defence research, including its work on medical and psychological sciences, according to the Australian Strategic Policy Institute’s ­Defence Universities Tracker.

The Air Force Medical University, also known as the Fourth Medical University, was placed under the command of the PLA under President Xi Jinping’s military reforms in 2017. The editor-in-chief of the paper, Xu Dezhong, reported to the top leadership of the Chinese Military Commission and Ministry of Health during the SARS epidemic of 2003, briefing them 24 times and preparing three reports, according to his online ­biography. -The Australian"We were able to verify its ­authenticity as a document authored by the particular PLA ­researchers and scientists," according to Robert Potter, a digital forensics specialist who has worked for the US, Australian and Canadian governments - and has previously analyzed leaked Chinese government documents, according to the report. "We were able to locate its genesis on the Chinese internet."

Former US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and his chief China adviser, Miles Yu, referenced the document in a February op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, writing that "A 2015 PLA study treated the 2003 SARS coronavirus outbreak as a ‘contemporary genetic weapon’ launched by foreign forces."

And according to Peter Jennings, executive director of the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, "There is no clear distinction for research capability because whether it’s used offensively or defensively is not a decision these scientists would take," adding "If you are building skills ostensibly to protect your military from a biological attack, you’re at the same time giving your military a capacity to use these weapons ­offensively. You can’t separate the two."

The study also examines the optimum conditions under which to release a bioweapon. “Bioweapon attacks are best conducted during dawn, dusk, night or cloudy weather because intense sunlight can damage the pathogens,” it states. “Biological agents should be released during dry weather. Rain or snow can cause the aerosol particles to precipitate.

“A stable wind direction is ­desirable so that the aerosol can float into the target area.”

Among the most bizarre claims by the military scientists is their theory that SARS-CoV-1, the virus that caused the SARS epidemic of 2003, was a man-made bioweapon, deliberately unleashed on China by “terrorists”. -The Australian

News of the document follows a May 3 report that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was working with the Chinese government in a team which comprised five military and civil experts, "who conducted research at WIV labs, military labs, and other civil labs leading to “the discovery of animal pathogens [biological agents that causes disease] in wild animals," according to the Epoch Times.

And as we noted in March, the US National Institutes of Health (NIH) - headed by Dr. Anthony Fauci, "had funded a number of projects that involved WIV scientists, including much of the Wuhan lab's work with bat coronaviruses."

In 2017, Fauci's agency resumed funding a controversial grant to genetically modify bat coronaviruses in Wuhan, China without the approval of a government oversight body, according to the Daily Caller. For context, in 2014, the Obama administration temporarily suspended federal funding for gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses. Four months prior to that decision, the NIH effectively shifted this research to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) via a grant to nonprofit group EcoHealth Alliance, headed by Peter Daszak.

The NIH's first $666,442 installment of EcoHealth's $3.7 million grant was paid in June 2014, with similar annual payments through May 2019 under the "Understanding The Risk Of Bat Coronavirus Emergence" project.

Notably, the WIV "had openly participated in gain-of-function research in partnership with U.S. universities and institutions" for years under the leadership of Dr. Shi 'Batwoman' Zhengli, according to the Washington Post's Josh Rogin.

So now we have a 2015 document from the Chinese military describing using COVID as a bioweapon - four years before the COVID-19 pandemic breaks out just miles away from a Chinese lab working to make bat COVID more transmissible to humans, and you're a conspiracy theorist peddling 'debunked lies' if you think they might be related.

And for those who say 'COVID-19 couldn't be man-made because a laboratory-created virus would have tell-tale signs of manipulation' - au contraire. As Nicholas Wade noted three days ago in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, "newer methods, called “no-see-um” or “seamless” approaches, leave no defining marks. Nor do other methods for manipulating viruses such as serial passage, the repeated transfer of viruses from one culture of cells to another. If a virus has been manipulated, whether with a seamless method or by serial passage, there is no way of knowing that this is the case. "

It's as if the painfully obvious answer was right in front of us, only to be shrouded in propaganda by China-friendly politicians, big tech, and news outlets running cover for what should be the easiest game of connect-the-dots on the planet. Luckily, what was taboo as recently as a year ago will soon be exposed for the world to see, thanks to The Bulletin Of Atomic Scientists which earlier this week dared to open The Wuhan Virus "Pandora's Box"...


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Dr. Li-Meng YAN wrote:
The mentioned breaking document to “predict World War III as biological war” is the PLA’s novel bioweapon textbook (by General Dezhong Xi, 2015) I’m translating into English with our Chinese volunteers! The brief introduction is in the 3rd Yan Report
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11 May 2021, 12:58 pm

Ah, found it.

It is not a government report, but a 2015 book which was even sold on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/%E9%9D%9E%E5%85% ... B012984EOI

It would have been possible to buy it online for $ 5.68 here:
http://m.bookschina.com/6977756.htm

... but it is out of stock (缺货t)

Here is a PDF version, though:
https://gnews.org/wp-content/uploads/20 ... 9%A8-1.pdf

And it can also be downloaded here:
https://dk1lib.org/book/5405744/cb0bbd? ... ret=cb0bbd

There is nothing secret about the book. In fact, the author tried to have it published in The Lancet (see page 186 - 192), but it was rejected. The author also contacted the WHO directly (page 216)... Once again, to no avail.


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11 May 2021, 7:27 pm

I assume the Chinese government's response to the unveiled document is that it's fake?

Not a bad argument to take after all it worked for Trump when he was avoiding jail-time.



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11 May 2021, 10:29 pm

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Available data ‘firmly in favour’ of theory COVID-19 came from a lab in Wuhan
10/05/2021|14min

While no firm conclusion about the theories surrounding COVID-19 can be arrived at, available data is “fairly firmly in favour” of the virus coming from the lab at Wuhan, according to science writer and editor Nicholas Wade.

“In the Wuhan lab they were taking bat coronaviruses – that’s the same kind as the SARS-CoV-2 virus – and they were swapping in and out the spike protein from related coronaviruses,” he told Sky News host Andrew Bolt.

“They were trying to get a virus that was most infective for humans.”



You have had the truth kept from you.

More than 3 million people have died so far from the coronavirus. And the lives of billions of people have been totally disrupted. Look at your own lives.

And the extraordinary thing is that we still do not know how this virus started.

Or let me be more accurate – we are still not told how this virus started. Was it a natural outbreak or did it in fact escape from a Chinese lab?

I raise this again because of a brilliant new article in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists which says too many people want to keep from you the truth – that fact that the evidence now strongly suggests this virus was created by Chinese scientists who then let it escape.

Top virologists don't want you to know because this is the kind of lethal research they've worked on, too, to make viruses more lethal. To supposedly then discover better treatments.

Some top American science bureaucrats don't want you to know either because they were actually funding this virus work at China's Institute of Virology in Wuhan. Exactly where this pandemic started. What are the odds?

China obviously doesn't want you to know because the world will then hold it to account.

And, of course, there were all the Donald Trump-hating journalists who did not want you to even think the former US president was actually right when he said this virus did escape from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Nonsense said our ABC.

Now if this sounds like a conspiracy theory, note that even President Joe Biden's new head of national intelligence says, yes, this virus could have escaped from that Chinese lab and US agencies are checking that out.

“It is absolutely accurate, the intelligence community does not know exactly where, when or how COVID-19 virus was transmitted initially,” Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines said.

“But we’re continuing to work on this issue and collect information.”

And ask yourself. Of all the places in all the world where this brand new coronavirus breaks out – a virus that is very well adapted to killing humans, that looks nothing like what we've seen in other coronaviruses, that came without warning, that has features you don't expect without genetic engineering – what are the odds that kind of virus broke out accidentally in exactly the city with an institute that's working to create exactly this kind of virus.

And in a lab that had poor safety procedures. In a dictatorship that now won’t let investigators see the original medical records of the first people to get infected.

As I said, this is a brilliant new article that goes through the science and points the finger right at China.

Its author, Nicholas Wade, is a science writer who has worked on the journals Nature and Science, and, for many years, The New York Times.

His book, Before the Dawn, won a Science-in-Society Journalism Award.



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