28 Jul 2021, 7:28 pm
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28 Jul 2021, 7:32 pm
funeralxempire wrote:
kokopelli wrote:
It's a great mistake to think of Trump and his Cult as being Conservative. They are, in fact, anything but Conservative. They are radicals.
Conservatives want to preserve things as they are. If changes are to be made, they should be made slowly out of caution in order to avoid causing greater problems.
Radicals want to tear things down. They want change NOW. Change becomes more important than the results.
Trump and his Cult are far from Conservative. The January 6 attempted coup was yet another example of the extent of their radical, anti-American propensities.
Conservatives want to preserve things as they are. If changes are to be made, they should be made slowly out of caution in order to avoid causing greater problems.
Radicals want to tear things down. They want change NOW. Change becomes more important than the results.
Trump and his Cult are far from Conservative. The January 6 attempted coup was yet another example of the extent of their radical, anti-American propensities.
They're reactionaries. They're more utopian than traditional conservatives.
There were revolutionaries who caused arguably the worst insurrection since the civil war. They are whining and complaining. They have no clue how fortunate they are. They should have been treated like the Confederates were back in the day but I guess that would have been bad optics.
28 Jul 2021, 7:56 pm
Misslizard wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
envirozentinel wrote:
So Mr Reynholm thinks there was no insurrection in this universe?
You might call Election Day 2016 an insurrection. But I think peaceful uprising would be a more apt description. Either way it was a huge middle finger to the DC elite ruling class. Thats why the whole "Russia" hoax. The establishment types could not admit that THEY were the problem. The visceral reaction to Trump over the last 4 years is a warning to any private citizen who dares to run for president again.
Peaceful????Armed thugs invading the capital??A noose on the lawn for Pence?In any other nation it would be called an attempted coup.
Exactly what it was.
I said Election Day 2016. Not January 6 2021.
28 Jul 2021, 7:57 pm
Fnord wrote:
The January 6th coup attempt was a planned event -- they even had tee-shirts made!
Well, here's a picture of a t-shirt so I guess Trump is guilty! PPppfffttt!! !!
What exactly does this prove?
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28 Jul 2021, 8:02 pm
ASPartOfMe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
kokopelli wrote:
It's a great mistake to think of Trump and his Cult as being Conservative. They are, in fact, anything but Conservative. They are radicals.
Conservatives want to preserve things as they are. If changes are to be made, they should be made slowly out of caution in order to avoid causing greater problems.
Radicals want to tear things down. They want change NOW. Change becomes more important than the results.
Trump and his Cult are far from Conservative. The January 6 attempted coup was yet another example of the extent of their radical, anti-American propensities.
Conservatives want to preserve things as they are. If changes are to be made, they should be made slowly out of caution in order to avoid causing greater problems.
Radicals want to tear things down. They want change NOW. Change becomes more important than the results.
Trump and his Cult are far from Conservative. The January 6 attempted coup was yet another example of the extent of their radical, anti-American propensities.
They're reactionaries. They're more utopian than traditional conservatives.
There were revolutionaries who caused arguably the worst insurrection since the civil war. They are whining and complaining. They have no clue how fortunate they are. They should have been treated like the Confederates were back in the day but I guess that would have been bad optics.
I'm just saying that conservative ideals are generally hostile to revolution/insurrection, once that behaviour starts to be encouraged and expressed there's another term to describe those people on the right.
Luckily conservatives and moderates don't usually turn reactionary unless they're worried about a leftist revolution and lefties don't seem to keen on pursuing that at the moment. At this moment the reactionaries seem like a bigger threat to national security so the situation that allowed fascist-like movements to come to power in Europe 90 years ago isn't repeating. If the militia movement/QAnon/pol/ guys start shooting the state isn't going to be on their side.
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28 Jul 2021, 8:04 pm
Mr Reynholm wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
envirozentinel wrote:
So Mr Reynholm thinks there was no insurrection in this universe?
You might call Election Day 2016 an insurrection. But I think peaceful uprising would be a more apt description. Either way it was a huge middle finger to the DC elite ruling class. Thats why the whole "Russia" hoax. The establishment types could not admit that THEY were the problem. The visceral reaction to Trump over the last 4 years is a warning to any private citizen who dares to run for president again.
Peaceful????Armed thugs invading the capital??A noose on the lawn for Pence?In any other nation it would be called an attempted coup.
Exactly what it was.
I said Election Day 2016. Not January 6 2021.
Fair enough, for Election Day 2016 wasn't an insurrection unless one redefines insurrection entirely.
28 Jul 2021, 8:12 pm
28 Jul 2021, 9:05 pm
Mr Reynholm wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
envirozentinel wrote:
So Mr Reynholm thinks there was no insurrection in this universe?
You might call Election Day 2016 an insurrection. But I think peaceful uprising would be a more apt description. Either way it was a huge middle finger to the DC elite ruling class. Thats why the whole "Russia" hoax. The establishment types could not admit that THEY were the problem. The visceral reaction to Trump over the last 4 years is a warning to any private citizen who dares to run for president again.
Peaceful????Armed thugs invading the capital??A noose on the lawn for Pence?In any other nation it would be called an attempted coup.
Exactly what it was.
I said Election Day 2016. Not January 6 2021.
My bad.
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28 Jul 2021, 9:19 pm
Mr Reynholm wrote:
Fnord wrote:
The January 6th coup attempt was a planned event -- they even had tee-shirts made!
Well, here's a picture of a t-shirt so I guess Trump is guilty! PPppfffttt!! ! !
What exactly does this prove?
It proves the riot was premeditated, rather than just something that happened out of the blue, as shirts were made to rally support. And if this had all been planned, then Trump's own words to the Proud Boy, "Stand down and stand back," can be inferred to mean he had been in communication with them regarding the riot.
28 Jul 2021, 9:34 pm
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28 Jul 2021, 10:05 pm
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29 Jul 2021, 8:09 am
Misslizard wrote:
Mr Reynholm wrote:
envirozentinel wrote:
So Mr Reynholm thinks there was no insurrection in this universe?
You might call Election Day 2016 an insurrection. But I think peaceful uprising would be a more apt description. Either way it was a huge middle finger to the DC elite ruling class. Thats why the whole "Russia" hoax. The establishment types could not admit that THEY were the problem. The visceral reaction to Trump over the last 4 years is a warning to any private citizen who dares to run for president again.
Peaceful????Armed thugs invading the capital??A noose on the lawn for Pence?In any other nation it would be called an attempted coup.
Exactly what it was.
How about the hoards of violent protesters attacking the White House a few years back? Coup?
