Column: Larry Elder is the Black face of white supremacy.

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I absolutely agree with this.

But all the other issues ... Beyond stating that a term like Uncle Tom shouldn't be a part of this discussion in this place at this time, I'm not the right person to answer.

Let me say this: it makes me extremely uncomfortable to hear members of a community use words that are considered racist towards that community if used by anyone else. I understand intellectually that it's about control and ownership, but I'm still very uncomfortable. Will I ever say something? Most likely not. My hope is that period of time it takes to transition from using the word to own it and make peace with it, to throwing it permanently in the junkyard of history, will be relatively short. I can't relate to or understand why they want to use it, but I also don't feel comfortable telling them not to use the term. That would be like telling someone how to process and resolve their own hurts. Make no mistake, there is real pain in the black community from all the cumulative history they've had to deal with, and all the progress that does not yet exist. Best I can do is not add to it.

I would think that the only people who really should use terms like Oreo or Uncle Tom would be people who see themselves as meeting the description. Not just other members of the black community, but ones who actually might meet the description. However, since I'm not black, I don't see where I have a place in that discussion at all. The people I know and listen to in the community do NOT EVER use those words. I don't have the feeling it is considered OK. There is too much painful history there. But I can't be the one to state that or debate it. That is a question that belongs to a community I am not a member of.

Any criticism of Obama was a racial slur so why the double standard?

When my son was about four, we were both on the train and there were these black people and they kept saying the N word and my son blurted "Mom, what's a N***" and they overheard and they said to him "A word you must never say" and they must have saw the horrified look on my face when he said it. I then told my son it's a word that only black people can use and we can't say it because we don't have the right skin color. This was how I could explain a bad word to a 4 year old to explain why they can use it and we can't and to explain why it looked like a double standard to him.

He of course has forgotten about this because he asked few years later why the N word is bad and by then I was able to explain it in more detail. He must have heard it in school when he was learning about black history and the teacher explained you must ever say that word.

Surprisingly there are lot of white people out there that don't understand the severity of the word so they use it as a quotation or descriptive because they are not aware of the history of the word and they only know you can't call a black person that to put them down. Same as how you can't use the word ret*d or ret*d so they see it as bad as that but everyone is fine with it being used as a quotation. Many people treat this word as the R word.

Any criticism of Obama was a racial slur so why the double standard?

So who's winning this argument?

To some, it's not the principle, it's the "side" that matters...

That isn’t true.

Dox47 and I have both already explained that criticism is fine; it is the use of racist words while doing so that is not fine. We had opposite political opinions agreeing on this question; why are you stirring it up?

When my son was about four, we were both on the train and there were these black people and they kept saying the N word and my son blurted "Mom, what's a N***" and they overheard and they said to him "A word you must never say" and they must have saw the horrified look on my face when he said it. I then told my son it's a word that only black people can use and we can't say it because we don't have the right skin color. This was how I could explain a bad word to a 4 year old to explain why they can use it and we can't and to explain why it looked like a double standard to him.

He of course has forgotten about this because he asked few years later why the N word is bad and by then I was able to explain it in more detail. He must have heard it in school when he was learning about black history and the teacher explained you must ever say that word.

Surprisingly there are lot of white people out there that don't understand the severity of the word so they use it as a quotation or descriptive because they are not aware of the history of the word and they only know you can't call a black person that to put them down. Same as how you can't use the word ret*d or ret*d so they see it as bad as that but everyone is fine with it being used as a quotation. Many people treat this word as the R word.

Ehh, I think he was being facetious there, it really was bad during the Obama administration, you couldn't make any critique of him at all without some liberal jackhole popping up to call you racist, some of them might even be posting in this thread.

I did know people like that. With so much actual racism evident towards Obama it was too easy for people to fall back on the charge when they couldn't understand a criticism.

Any criticism of Obama was a racial slur so why the double standard?

Let's not kid ourselves, 99% of the criticism aimed at Obama from republican supporters was to do with his background, I don't recall any erudite placards carried by tea Party nutters proclaiming any worth while rebuttal to policy.

Amen, brother Cyberdad, Amen!

So who's winning this argument?

@ DW_a_mom