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04 Jun 2023, 4:27 pm

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I know not everybody here believes the Bible, but according to the book of Revelation the eventual happening of the above billions of deaths by plague, disease, is not merely a probability, it is a certainty,


But the end date was never given in steel. As such it allows variation. So it will depend on us. What is our next move.


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04 Jun 2023, 4:40 pm

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What is our next move.


I don't personally know what humanity's next move is but some way, somehow, it will be a step in that direction or at least something which can be used in stepping that direction.


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04 Jun 2023, 7:16 pm

Viruses and other bugs could make a summer comeback

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It is impossible to know how many Covid cases are circulating. The CDC isn't tracking cases, although wastewater testing is still underway. Some areas of the country, such New York City, are now seeing high levels of Covid in those samples.

It's too soon to know whether those cases will result in a new wave of severe sickness. As temperatures rise, people will increase their chances of getting infected just by gathering inside in air conditioned areas, behind closed windows and doors.

"Just like in the wintertime, anytime you're indoors together, and someone has it, it's pretty easily spreadable," said Jodie Guest, a professor of epidemiology at Emory's Rollins School of Public Health in Atlanta.

On a hopeful note, hospitalizations from Covid have fallen consistently since the beginning of the year, according to the CDC.

I am next door to NYC while our number of positive cases are not going up and remain minuscule the percentage of positive test are noticeably up from 1 and 2 percent to the 5 to 7 percent range. It was hard to know if it was a real spike or a product of such a small sample size. The high level of positive wastewater tests gives me the answer.

The declining number of hospitalizations may or may not be good news. It could be an indication of partial herd immunity from vaccines and most people getting COVID. Hospitalizations are a delayed indicator. A spike can be well underway before they start going up.


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05 Jun 2023, 7:30 am

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The declining number of hospitalizations may or may not be good news. It could be an indication of partial herd immunity from vaccines and most people getting COVID. Hospitalizations are a delayed indicator. A spike can be well underway before they start going up.

Also, since hospitals are dropping masks, a lot of people are trying their hardest to stay out of them.
I've been reading too many horror stories lately. And, of course, stories about people who are "vulnerable" asking for masking and being denied >_<


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05 Jun 2023, 9:34 am

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So where did COVID come from? What was its origin? Was it originate naturally or was it a leak from a biomedical research activity in China.

Investigating the Origins of COVID-19, Part 2: China and the Available Intelligence

This is a critical question. If it was man-made, then there is a high probability that the world will experience another plague with billions of deaths.


The exchange at (time in link) https://youtu.be/SjRNU9pnnjI?t=2697 is very important.



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06 Jun 2023, 7:47 am

Rule number 1 in expert trend analysis is called the KISS Principle.
KISS stands for Keep It Simple Stupid.

When I was analyzing current trend analysis of COVID from a European perspective during the last few days, it became apparent that the Europeans have broken this rule.

They have broken the analysis down into three groups VOC, VOI, and VUM, These acronyms stand for: Variants Of Concern, Variants Of Interest and Variants Under Monitoring

World Health Organization: Tracking SARS-CoV-2 variants

How does someone determine which category each new variant falls into. Does someone put up a beautiful picture of all the variants and throw a dart at it, like one would throw a dart at a dartboard? What about all the pieces that are missing. What are we ignoring or do not even know about yet.

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p.s. There is another rule, the second rule in good analysis. The rule is never throw away the Outliers. There are always -some items that do not flow with the other pieces of information. These are called Outliers. Many people tend to throw these pieces of data away. But many times they contain valuable tools in truly understanding what is going on. I always spent as much time studying the outliers as I did the rest of the analysis. I set them aside so that they would distort the general analysis and then spent time in understanding why they were outliers. Some were just mistakes. But many times they provided me with GREAT INSIGHT.


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07 Jun 2023, 8:29 am

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https://twitter.com/luckytran/status/1657500045942353923

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The CDC has finally published guidance for cleaning indoor air and is recommending wearing masks in schools.

Why wait until after the end of the public health emergency? The government always knew about the science needed to save lives. But they didn't want to pay for it.

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For everyone asking "why now?"

Basically CDC couldn't "recommend" this during the emergency because then the government would be obligated to pay for part or all of it. Employers who failed to achieve this standard could also be held liable for workplace injury caused by covid.


I guess it should come as no surprise, but it's still pretty disgusting.


US CDC announces indoor air guidance for COVID-19 after 3 years
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A day after the US Government formally lifted the COVID-19 public health emergency order on May 11—and 3 years into the pandemic—the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) announced long-awaited new ventilation guidance aimed at reducing indoor transmission of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The announcement calls for indoor air to be completely replaced at least five times every hour and cleaned with minimum efficiency reporting value (MERV)-13 air filters.


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07 Jun 2023, 2:32 pm

Covid is an evil, vile, thing.

And Long Covid is yet more evil and yet more vile, even sadistic, in how it takes people away and destroys relationship.

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12 Jun 2023, 10:13 am

So what is happening in the world of COVID. Well the world has turned of thinking about the virus and even tracking all the new variants that are materializing. China has even stopped trying to control the outbreak. The current version Omicron is very contagious but not as deadly as earlier variants. But will this trend change. One resent article in Nature explores what might happen next.

China’s rolling COVID waves could hit every six months — infecting millions

Because China (nor the rest of the world) no longer publishes its COVID-19 case count, it is unclear how many people are becoming infected in the latest wave; however, the Beijing health authority says the number of COVID-19 cases reported in the capital city quadrupled between late March and mid-April. Cao says it’s hard to make estimates without accurate data. But on the basis of his past research, he estimates that at least 30% of the population could become reinfected in this wave, amounting to more than 400 million people.

Scientists say having a good surveillance system to monitor and track emerging virus variants is very important, given that infection cycles will continue to happen. A new variant that could supersede current ones remains a concern, says Mokdad. “Imagine a Delta type of variant with XBB capacity of spreading. This will cause us a lot of damage.”

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Or imagine that a strange new variant, one that we haven't seen before suddenly appearing out of thin air. What is the world's Plan B.


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12 Jun 2023, 10:53 am

So where are we at in the COVID wars? In a way it is a little hard to tell because we (the U.S.) and the rest of the world (for example China) have decided to stop counting. The best I can determine is the following variants in the U.S. are as follows:
According to the report published 31 May 2023:

XBB.1.5 ----- 53.8 %
XBB.1.16 ---- 15.1 %
XBB.1.9.1 --- 11.8 %
XBB.1.9.2 --- 6.1 %
XBB.2.3 ----- 4.9 %
XBB.1.16.1 -- 3.8 %
XBB.1.5.1 --- 2.2 %
FD.2 --------- 1.5 %
XBB ---------- 0.4 %
CH.1.1 ------- 0.2 %
BQ.1.1 ------- 0.1 %

Source: What COVID-19 variants are going around in May 2023?


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12 Jun 2023, 11:52 am

I came across an interesting article out of the heart and soul of China.

The story of Shanghai last year reads like a dystopian novel, one written by an author with a powerful imagination. A year ago, who could possibly have guessed that the nearly 30 million residents of one of the largest and most cosmopolitan cities on the planet would be confined to quarters for nearly two months during spring? Millions scrambling (digitally of course) to secure enough food to eat, the streets looking like we’d been hit by a neutron bomb – no damage to structures, but devoid of most people.

And the lockdown wasn’t the end. Until December, we had to have our throats swabbed every few days, because otherwise we’d become pariahs – unable to access public venues and transit, most commercial establishments, schools, etc. Rolling lockdowns would engulf scores of Chinese cities through the summer and autumn.

From late November, hundreds of thousands of China’s citizenry took their complaints onto the streets, prominently in Shanghai, clamoring for an end to “dynamic zero” COVID-19 policies, and even more.

And then, instead of jackboots on streetcorners and a switched-off internet, instead of mass public arrests, we witnessed one of the most dramatic policy reversals of any government in recent times, anywhere in the world: the complete abandonment of the theretofore sacrosanct dynamic zero.

Source: After an Astonishing Year, Chinese See a Brighter Post-COVID Future


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15 Jun 2023, 8:10 pm

FDA panel recommends updating Covid boosters for the fall

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Advisers to the Food and Drug Administration on Thursday recommended updating the Covid vaccines to target a circulating strain of the virus, while pushing for newer vaccines that provide longer-lasting protection.

The FDA’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee voted unanimously in support of tweaking the shots to target an XBB strain, as well as dropping the original coronavirus strain from the formulation.

The committee did not, however, make a formal recommendation on which specific XBB lineage the updated boosters should target, nor did it make a recommendation on who should get the shots and when. The latter will likely be left up to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which has its own advisory committee meeting next week.

The recommendation will now be handed off to the FDA, which is expected to make a final decision soon on which Covid strain to target. Drugmakers need enough time to produce and distribute the new shots, which are expected to be used as early as September as part of a fall booster campaign.

Pfizer said it could distribute reformulated doses as early as the end of July, depending on the strain selected. Moderna said it expects to begin shipping updated doses, pending FDA approval, “by the end of the summer.” Novavax said it could have updated doses available in the fall.

It’s still unclear whether the fall is the best time to offer boosters. Covid’s spread has often been erratic over the past three years, without the clear seasonality seen with viruses like the flu.

“This season will be very telling whether Covid settles into a seasonal pattern or not,” said Ruth Link-Gelles, a senior epidemiologist at the CDC.

During Thursday’s discussion, many committee members appeared to be in support of updating the boosters to target XBB.1.5, a descendent of XBB that began circulating widely last fall and winter and is the predominant strain in the United States. XBB itself is a descendant of two omicron subvariants.

XBB.1.5 "seems to be at the front of the line," said Dr. Peter Marks, the FDA's top vaccine regulator.

Updating the vaccine with an XBB strain “makes the most sense,” said committee member Dr. Mark Sawyer, an infectious disease specialist at the University of California San Diego School of Medicine. “I think the data is quite clear.”

The XBB strains aren’t too genetically different from the next, meaning an XBB.1.5 vaccine should work well against the newer strains, committee members said.

According to new data from CDC scientists, the current boosters do provide protection against XBB.1.5, although not as much protection as they do BA.4 and BA.5, two strains that are no longer in circulation in the U.S. (The current boosters were formulated to target these strains, as well as the original coronavirus strain.)

On Thursday, the drugmakers presented data from animal studies that suggest an XBB-containing vaccine would provide more protection against the current circulating strains than the current boosters.

Choosing to target an XBB strain falls in line with a recommendation from the World Health Organization in May, as well as the European Medicines Agency, which recommended using XBB-containing vaccines in June.

While updating the boosters was supported by the committee, some members stressed the need for investment to find more effective and longer-lasting vaccines. The existing vaccines are highly effective, particularly against severe illness, but their effectiveness against infection generally wanes after a few months.

“People are tired of the pandemic, people feel like we have vaccines, we’re done,” said committee member Dr. Ofer Levy, the director of the Precision Vaccines Program at Boston Children’s Hospital, “but I think our discussion reflects the challenge ahead and the need for further innovation.”

Uptake of the booster shots has been low to date. Only 17% of the U.S. population has gotten an updated booster, according to the CDC.


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16 Jun 2023, 2:56 pm

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 893v1.full

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Conclusions Since the XBB lineages became dominant, adults “not up-to-date” by the CDC definition have a lower risk of COVID-19 than those “up-to-date” on COVID-19 vaccination, bringing into question the value of this risk classification definition.


The vaccines now appear to be functioning as "anti vaccines" that increase your risk after a few fleeting weeks of protection.
Had they just been available, it would have been tragic, that people were forced and coerced into taking them, makes it criminal.



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16 Jun 2023, 8:07 pm

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The vaccines now appear to be functioning as "anti vaccines" that increase your risk after a few fleeting weeks of protection.
Had they just been available, it would have been tragic, that people were forced and coerced into taking them, makes it criminal.


I would probably put it in the category of a Learning Curve.

In the past, they would identify the cause of a major outbreak a couple years after the event happened.
With COVID, this was the first time they developed and provided a cure (a vaccine) while the pandemic was actually taking place.
What the world discovered is that the pandemic was in a state of flux. It was changing from one variant into another and another during the pandemic.
The initial variant basically no longer existed after a few months. It was in a constant state of flux.

Maybe the next time a major pandemic happens, we will actually attempt to predict the future. PREDICT WHAT WILL COME NEXT.


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26 Jun 2023, 12:45 pm

So where are we at in the COVID wars? In a way it is a little hard to tell because we (the U.S.) and the rest of the world (for example China) have decided to stop counting. The best I can determine is the following variants in the U.S. are as follows:
According to the report published 10 June 2023:

XBB.1.5 ----- 39.9 %
XBB.1.16 ---- 18.2 %
XBB.1.9.1 --- 12.5 %
XBB.1.16.1 -- 8.4 %
XBB.1.9.2 --- 8.4 %
XBB.2.3 ----- 6.0 %
XBB ---------- 3.0 %
XBB.1.5.1 --- 1.6 %
FD.2 --------- 0.9 %
XBB.1.5.10 --- 0.8 %
CH.1.1 ------- 0.2 %
BQ.1.1 ------- 0.1 %

Source: What COVID-19 variants are going around in June 2023?

Then I came across a recent article titled: Potential Links Between the Wuhan Institute of Virology and the Origin of the COVID-19 Pandemic by the Office of National Intelligence.

The link was to an unclassified version. The report is dated June 2023.

This report responds to the COVID-19 Origin Act of 2023, which called for the U.S.Intelligence Community (IC) to declassify information relating to potential links between the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) and the origin of the COVID-19 pandemic. This report outlines the IC’s understanding of the WIV, its capabilities, and the actions of its personnel leading up to and in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic.

The report then goes on to say:
As of January 2019, WIV researchers performed SARS-like coronavirus experiments in BSL-2 laboratories, despite acknowledgements going back to 2017 of these virus’ ability to directly infect humans through their spike protein and early 2019 warnings of the danger of this practice. Separately, the WIV’s plan to conduct analysis of potential epidemic viruses from pangolin samples in fall 2019, suggests the researchers sought to isolate live viruses.

The impression that I had after reading this report is
That the virus might have originated from research being conducted at this lab. If so it was an accidental release.


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26 Jun 2023, 9:09 pm

Data still being collected in Maryland.

Although now on a weekly rather than daily basis.


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