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18 Apr 2024, 2:57 am

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the depiction of Texas and California teaming up totally ruins the whole premise for me.

I have yet to see it.

The scenarios of both The Day After[i]and [i]Threads leading up to nuclear war were plausible at the time. My first reaction to the illogical premise of The Civil War was like yours. Then I remembered that I rewatched The Day After and Threads and other cold war era nuclear apocalypse films in the wake of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Sure, the run ups to nuclear war are dated but that did not effect the power of those films I had seen at the time and those I was seeing for the first time.

But I am a baby boomer who does remember the cold war era deep fear that either I would go to sleep never to wake up or wake up to such an altered world that I wished I had not woken up. Those old films did bring those feelings right back. Younger generations have no internal memory of those times but do have plenty of current reasons for dread.

Those old films were message films. As nerve racking as the run up and nuke scenes were their true power was the aftermath of total nuclear war scenes. From what I'm have read Civil War centers on the reporters.


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18 Apr 2024, 4:32 am

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I got out of seeing this movie in IMAX over an hour ago. I adored it and am convinced that it is Alex Garland's directorial opus magnum. It sucks he won't be directing anymore, but he is a gifted sci-fi screenplay writer and I wish him well in future projects.

I remember feeling broken after seeing Avengers: Infinity War, but this somber sensation I'm feeling now after Civil War rivals it. I would go as far as say that this movie is better than Oppenheimer, which also had an important message for our current society.

Regardless of political beliefs, I can't recommend this movie enough, no matter how controversial it may be!

10/10


Agreed! I saw it last night. Gripping, graphic, journalistic behaviour exposed in all it’s disturbing glory.



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18 Apr 2024, 4:55 am

Can anyone comment who would fight who?

In my experience the US is very diverse, to have a war you need contiguous... something like ethnicity or ideology.
The US is like a hydra with many billionaires, private militias, govt agencies...

I don't think a civil war is feasible.



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18 Apr 2024, 9:02 am

__Elijahahahaho wrote:
Can anyone comment who would fight who?

In my experience the US is very diverse, to have a war you need contiguous... something like ethnicity or ideology.
The US is like a hydra with many billionaires, private militias, govt agencies...

I don't think a civil war is feasible.


Personally I think a modern Civil War in the US won't be anything like the first one which was divided between the north and south. It'll be much more chaotic with neighbor killing neighbor and a lot of domestic terror attacks happening all across the country. Because we all know it would mostly be a war between those who support Trumpism and those who don't.

I've read from other sources that say our modern civil war will resemble what happened during "The Troubles" of Ireland.


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18 Apr 2024, 10:56 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
"warning" or "message" entertainments seldom work out as their creators expected.


The Day After sure seems to have delivered it's message effectively to both the US and Soviet Union.

The Day After had the effect it did because it was very well done and aired in The United States. As good as The Day After was the British TV movie Threads that aired a year later was IMHO significantly more powerful. During that 1982-1984 period there was real fear a trigger happy Reagan was going to launch of world ending nuclear war. A pro Nuclear Freeze demonstration in New York drew 2 million easily toping the vaunted Vietnam era protests and we were bombarded with Nuclear Holocaust themed movies and songs.

Civil War is dropping on a very different country then the one The Day After did. I have no idea what effect it will have, or if it will have any effect. Also we don’t know if it is a message movie or an exploitative movie in the vain of The Hunt.


I have seen bits of that movie on Youtube and it does seem to be of high quality production.



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07 May 2024, 5:54 pm

It was number 1 at that box office for a week or so, but has been nowhere near the cultural phenomenon The Day After was. Maybe it will be once it is available to stream or become iconic years from now as sometimes happens.


I saw it last Friday. Based on the lack of response here I assume most of you have not seen it so I am just going to give brief summary and thoughts. The California-Texas alliance is not the only improbability, 4 journalists from different outlets working together is another. For me, I pretty much forgot about them and just got into the movie. The movie centers on the back-and-forth relationship between a veteran ambitious journalist played by Kristen Dunst and a young inexperienced ambitious journalist played by Caliee Spaney. It is a taut flick that becomes a very good action flick in the last 20 minutes or so. There is no overt message related to our current troubles. If there is a message it is that in a civil war everyone and every place will become the battlefield in one way or another.

While it does not live up to the hype it is well worth seeing.


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07 May 2024, 5:57 pm

there were some implausible details in the movie that distracted me from whatever message it wanted to impart on me. I will concede that it was an entertainment of sorts in that it made me think.



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08 May 2024, 7:15 pm

I don't know what people see in these fear-mongering doomsday movies. Do they really think they will somehow survive is something like that actually happens? Do they think it will be worth it to survive? Or do they think at all?



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11 May 2024, 10:14 pm

There are people in this country just itching for a civil war, where they can have their revenge on those not ideologically pure enough. Chances are, such a conflict wouldn't be region versus region like the last time, but would be more of a matter of guerilla war much like in Northern Ireland, where neighbors murder neighbors. Either they don't understand the extent of such an ugly conflict, or there truly is something awful and horrific about such people for wanting such a thing.


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11 May 2024, 10:39 pm

some people are just primitive.



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11 May 2024, 11:21 pm

auntblabby wrote:
some people are just primitive.


I'm sure I could add a few more descriptive words to that!


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