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06 Sep 2024, 9:47 pm

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I want to know how anyone gets an assault rifle into the school doors without being seen?

I'm not blaming the school but truly, how is that achieved?


I think the authorities squarely blamed his father for providing the Ar-15 and he is now facing the same charges. this makes Gray's charge as an adult somewhat questionable.


It's Georgia. Even though it's now a purple state with a chance to become completely blue in 2026 if the Dems win the governorship, and Brian Kemp (the current governor) is slightly saner than Greg Abbott or Ron DeSantis, kids being tried as adults is still a thing.


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06 Sep 2024, 9:52 pm

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I want to know how anyone gets an assault rifle into the school doors without being seen?

I'm not blaming the school but truly, how is that achieved?


I think the authorities squarely blamed his father for providing the Ar-15 and he is now facing the same charges. this makes Gray's charge as an adult somewhat questionable.


It's Georgia. Even though it's now a purple state with a chance to become completely blue in 2026 if the Dems win the governorship, and Brian Kemp (the current governor) is slightly saner than Greg Abbott or Ron DeSantis, kids being tried as adults is still a thing.


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08 Sep 2024, 7:56 am

Accused Georgia school shooter apologized to his mom before allegedly killing four — prompting her frantic calls to the school

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Accused Georgia school shooter Colt Gray apologized to his mom before he allegedly killed four people — prompting her to make a desperate call in a bid to stop the tragedy, according to his grandfather and a report.

In an exclusive interview with The Post Saturday, Charles Polhamus said his daughter Marcee Gray was visiting him at his home in Fitzgerald, Georgia, when Colt sent her a haunting text Wednesday morning.

“I’m sorry, mom,” the message read.

Marcee, 43, desperately called Apalachee High School and warned a counselor of an “extreme emergency,” a relative told The Washington Post.

“I was the one that notified the school counselor at the high school. I told them it was an extreme emergency and for them to go immediately and find [my son] to check on him,” she told her sister, according to the outlet.

After getting Colt’s text, Marcee rushed into her car to head to Winder, about three hours away, and heard halfway there that two students and two teachers were killed, Polhamus, 81, told The Post

Marcee Gray appeared devastated Saturday when she was spotted carrying pillows into her father’s home.

“It’s horrible. It’s absolutely horrible,” Marcee told The Post, declining to share details about the bloodshed.

After Marcee Gray’s panicked call, school officials appeared to try and avert the disaster, Gray’s sister Annie Brown and another student told The Washington Post.

An administrator was searching for Colt and went to his classroom minutes before the shooting unfolded, but he wasn’t there. Instead, the administrator with the backpack of another kid with a similar name who also was out of the room, the outlet reported.

The stage for the violence was set long ago, Polhamus said, slamming Colt’s dad Colin as “evil” and claiming Colin Gray got Marcee addicted to drugs — ruining the family.

“Collie Gray did this to his family and he will rot in hell for it. That’s a fact,” Polhamus said outside his home. “He needs the death penalty. He is probably one of the worst narcissists in the world.”

An attorney representing Colin could not be reached for comment.

Colin regularly screamed at Marcee and the kids, he claimed. Marcee herself once described herself as a victim of abuse wrote her kids were “thriving” after she and Colin split up last year.

Polhamus accused Colin of becoming addicted to opiates a few years ago, after hurting his back. He allegedly pressured Marcee to obtain drugs for him when doctors refused to hand over prescriptions, the grandfather said.

“Living in that environment – they lost their house, he lost his job,” the grandfather said of Colin Gray.

Two years he laid on his back and never did a thing. My daughter Marcee worked. They had a half-million dollar farm before all this happened and they lost it.”

Marcee — whose rap sheet stretches back nearly two decades — moved with her three kids to Polhamus’ home, he said, but police sent the children back to their father after she was caught with drugs.

Her arrest record includes charges of drug possession, aggravated battery, theft and criminal trespass and she once “threatened to kill her husband” during an incident, according to the Daily Mail.


Alleged Georgia school shooter Colt Gray was ‘ridiculed’ by classmates, frequently called ‘gay’: father
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Alleged Georgia school shooter Colt Gray was frequently called “gay” by bullies, including some who physically harassed him, his father told investigators in a 2023 phone call.

“I was trying to get him on the golf team. Like, ‘Oh, look, Colt’s gay.’ ‘He’s dating that guy.’ Just ridiculed him day after day after day,” Colin Gray, 54, told authorities in a newly revealed transcript.

“I don’t want him to fight anybody, but they just keep like pinching him and touching him, and that’s a whole different deal,” the dad said at one point. “And it’s just escalated to point where like his finals were last week and that was a lasting on his mind.”

The Jackson County Sheriff’s Office paid a visit to the boy’s home and spoke to his father, who said his son was bullied — and admitted that the boy had access to firearms in the house.

During the phone conversation several weeks later, Gray told the investigator that he introduced bow-hunting, a pellet gun and then a .22 rifle and gun safety to his son for deer-hunting.

He’s going through a lot. He just wants us to have a simple life. It was very difficult for him to go to school and not get picked on,” said Colin, who now faces manslaughter and murder charges alongside his son.


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08 Sep 2024, 5:38 pm

Bullying needs to be taken more seriously in schools and on social media. As a society we not naturally inclusive to those we privately call "losers". I'm afraid parents pass these values onto their kids who act on it in school. I imagine the school will be forced to look at its anti-bullying polices. But this is America and these parents will probably claim the children have a constitutional right to call other children "gay" as a pejorative slur?



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08 Sep 2024, 5:41 pm

Is he actually gay, and it's the father who didn't accept him?

There's no proof of schoolmates calling him gay.
It would really surprise me if homophobia was still a thing in school.


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08 Sep 2024, 5:44 pm

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Is he actually gay, and it's the father who didn't accept him?

There's no proof of schoolmates calling him gay.
It would really surprise me if homophobia was still a thing in school.


It can be both. Reading all the articles its likely he was bullied (so he was quiet and kept to himself) and his father saw his son as a loser so didn't accept him. Perhaps the gifting of the AR-15 he thought would make his son a man.



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08 Sep 2024, 6:09 pm

Perhaps the son knew his crime would put Dad in prison, too.


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08 Sep 2024, 6:10 pm

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Is he actually gay, and it's the father who didn't accept him?

There's no proof of schoolmates calling him gay.
It would really surprise me if homophobia was still a thing in school.


It can be both. Reading all the articles its likely he was bullied (so he was quiet and kept to himself) and his father saw his son as a loser so didn't accept him. Perhaps the gifting of the AR-15 he thought would make his son a man.




If he was bullied why didn't the FBI know that from their previous investigations on him?


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08 Sep 2024, 6:18 pm

That's why guns should be banned.


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08 Sep 2024, 6:21 pm

I bet the kid expected to get suicide-by-cop, and have Dad thrown in prison as punishment.


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09 Sep 2024, 3:14 am

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If he was bullied why didn't the FBI know that from their previous investigations on him?


Because the FBI like the police can only monitor not act. Like lethal domestic violence, police can put restraining orders but the males usually end up killing their partners.

Also they might have thought the kid couldn't access guns but the father's decision to gift his son an AR-15 when he knew his son had threatened the school before might be the reason he's been charged with the same crime.



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09 Sep 2024, 3:50 am

the kid suffered at home and school. there was little respite, an abusive father and addict mother then hours of bullying at school.
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... 0fa2afc8cb

If they want to try a 14yr old as an adult it's because he's suffered more than the average adult experiences. Reminds me of many other teens who get a raw deal
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23 Sep 2024, 11:28 am

Mom of suspect in Georgia school shooting indicted and is accused of taping a parent to a chair

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The mother of a Georgia teenager charged with fatally shooting four people at his high school has been indicted in connection with an alleged domestic incident last year.

The indictment handed down Monday charges Marcee Gray, 43, with exploiting an elderly person and other crimes in Ben Hill County, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported. It appears unrelated to the school shootings at Apalachee High School, which occurred in a different Georgia county nearly 200 miles (320 kilometers) away.

Gray is the mother of 14-year-old Colt Gray, who was charged with murder after surrendering to police at the high school on Sept. 4. Authorities say the boy brought an assault-style rifle to school in his backpack and opened fire during morning classes, killing two students and two teachers and injuring nine others.

The indictment charging Marcee Gray stems from a domestic incident late last year, the Atlanta newspaper reported. It said a police incident report states Gray's 74-year-old mother told authorities Nov. 4 that Gray had taken her phone, taped her to a chair and left her for nearly a full day.

The incident report said Gray bound her mother before traveling to Barrow County to confront her ex-husband, who lived with their son and two other children. The Atlanta newspaper said records show Gray was arrested in Barrow County on Nov. 6, two days after her mother was found and was sentenced to 45 days in jail after pleading guilty to charges of criminal trespassing, using a license plate to disguise her car and causing property damage.

Messages left Saturday at possible phone numbers for Gray were not immediately returned. It was not immediately known if she had an attorney.


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23 Sep 2024, 4:30 pm

In this case apple doesn't fall from the tree



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24 Sep 2024, 8:56 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Is he actually gay, and it's the father who didn't accept him?

There's no proof of schoolmates calling him gay.
It would really surprise me if homophobia was still a thing in school.


Homophobia is still a thing in British schools. I imagine it would be anywhere? Though not as bad it was when I was a young man at school.

Kids don't always conform to PC opinion and can be very cruel to other kids.



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24 Sep 2024, 8:57 am

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That's why guns should be banned.


There is a good case for guns to be banned when you look at all of the destruction they cause, especially in the hands of the public.