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16 Sep 2024, 11:38 am

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I'm sure the whole " God spared his life" thing has already started :twisted:


That would be the "God" who took him up the mountain in the desert, showed him all the kingdoms of the world, and told him that he only had to follow him and these would all be his.



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16 Sep 2024, 11:45 am

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Routh frequently posted on social media about the war in Ukraine and had a website where he sought to raise money and recruit volunteers to go to Kyiv to join the fight against the Russian invasion.

Fight and die to stop aggression,” he posted on X in February 2023 about Ukraine. “Everyone should be outraged and helping.” In a video circulating online Routh said, “This is about good versus evil.”

He also wrote separately on X, “I am going to fight and die for Ukraine” and even traveled there.

Video shot by the AP showed Routh at a small demonstration in Kyiv’s Independence Square in April 2022, two months after Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an invasion of the country. A placard he was holding said: “We cannot tolerate corruption and evil for another 50+ years. End Russia for our kids.” Routh wore a blue vest with the U.S., flag on the back.

That same day, Routh also visited a makeshift memorial to “Foreigners killed by Putin.”

But Routh never served in the Ukrainian army or worked with its military, said Oleksandr Shahuri of the Foreigners Coordination Department of the Ukrainian Ground Forces Command.

Routh’s politics, meanwhile, don’t appear consistently aligned to one party or the other.

In June 2020, he offered a post on X directed at then-President Trump to say he would win reelection if he issued an executive order for the Justice Department to prosecute police misconduct. That year, he also posted in support of the Democratic presidential campaign of then-U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, who has since left the party and endorsed Trump.

However, in recent years, his posts suggest he soured on Trump, and he expressed support for President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris.

In July, following the assassination attempt on Trump in Pennsylvania, Routh urged Biden and Harris to visit those wounded in the shooting at the hospital and to attend the funeral of a former fire chief killed at the rally.

Voter records show he registered as an unaffiliated voter in North Carolina in 2012, most recently voting in person during the state’s Democratic Party primary in March 2024. Federal campaign finance records show Routh made 19 small political donations totaling $140 since 2019 using his Hawaii address to ActBlue, a political action committee that supports Democratic candidates.

Records show that while living in Greensboro, North Carolina, Routh had multiple run-ins with law enforcement. He was convicted in 2002 of possessing a weapon of mass destruction, according to online North Carolina Department of Adult Correction records.

The records do not provide details about the case. But a News & Record story from 2002 says a man with the same name was arrested after a three-hour standoff with police. The story says he was pulled over during a traffic stop, put his hand on a gun and barricaded himself inside a roofing business. He owned the roofing company, according to state incorporation filings.


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16 Sep 2024, 11:55 am

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The two assassination attempts against Trump in such a short period of time is reminiscent of the September 1975 two assassination attempts against President Ford. It was my Freshmen year in college. The day after the second attempt I was reading the newspaper when a girl upon seeing the headline asked me why I was reading an old newspaper.


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16 Sep 2024, 12:48 pm

King Kat 1 wrote:
I'm sure the whole " God spared his life" thing has already started :twisted:


*insert vomit emoji*

Someone want to explain to me why a God would choose to save this depraved, deranged, criminal monster who just fakes being a believer while not saving so many completely innocent people, like starving children?

Of course, I don't believe in any of that, but some people do. The logic of it is so twisted. As is the morality.


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16 Sep 2024, 12:52 pm

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Someone want to explain to me why a God would choose to save this depraved, deranged, criminal monster who just fakes being a believer while not saving so many completely innocent people, like starving children?


YHWH is an evil god, always has been, always will be. There's a reason the Egyptians drew him as a donkey-headed demon and associated him with Set.


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16 Sep 2024, 1:32 pm

Trump is this hated this must be the third time I'm his lifetime he has had an assignation attempt. Remember the Las Vegas one?


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16 Sep 2024, 1:40 pm

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Trump is this hated this must be the third time I'm his lifetime he has had an assignation attempt. Remember the Las Vegas one?


Are you referring to the shooting in 2017? That was a guy angry about gambling debts.


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16 Sep 2024, 1:41 pm

Which is a more dangerous profession?

Alaskan crab fisherman?

Or POTUS?

Weve had 46 POTUS. Four were assassinated that I can think of off of the top of my head. And another five survived assassination attempts (Im including including ex POTUS Trump).



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16 Sep 2024, 1:43 pm

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League_Girl wrote:
Trump is this hated this must be the third time I'm his lifetime he has had an assignation attempt. Remember the Las Vegas one?


Are you referring to the shooting in 2017? That was a guy angry about gambling debts.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Dona ... y_incident


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16 Sep 2024, 3:01 pm

King Kat 1 wrote:
I'm sure the whole " God spared his life" thing has already started :twisted:


For the record, Hitler kept surviving assassination attempt after assassination attempt by his own officer corps. So like with Hitler, if we're wondering about who's looking out for Trump, maybe we shouldn't be looking up to the heavens.


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16 Sep 2024, 3:15 pm

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King Kat 1 wrote:
I'm sure the whole " God spared his life" thing has already started :twisted:


For the record, Hitler kept surviving assassination attempt after assassination attempt by his own officer corps. So like with Hitler, if we're wondering about who's looking out for Trump, maybe we shouldn't be looking up to the heavens.


Or you're just making the wrong assumptions about YHWH's moral alignment. :nerdy:


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16 Sep 2024, 3:16 pm

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Which is a more dangerous profession?

Alaskan crab fisherman?

Or POTUS?

Weve had 46 POTUS. Four were assassinated that I can think of off of the top of my head. And another five survived assassination attempts (Im including including ex POTUS Trump).


Still putting my money on Alaskan crab fisherman being a more dangerous job.


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16 Sep 2024, 3:23 pm

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Harmonie wrote:
Someone want to explain to me why a God would choose to save this depraved, deranged, criminal monster who just fakes being a believer while not saving so many completely innocent people, like starving children?


YHWH is an evil god, always has been, always will be. There's a reason the Egyptians drew him as a donkey-headed demon and associated him with Set.


Yeah, but the Christians who keep on repeating this idea that Trump has been saved by God don't see God that way.


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16 Sep 2024, 3:31 pm

Harmonie wrote:
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Harmonie wrote:
Someone want to explain to me why a God would choose to save this depraved, deranged, criminal monster who just fakes being a believer while not saving so many completely innocent people, like starving children?


YHWH is an evil god, always has been, always will be. There's a reason the Egyptians drew him as a donkey-headed demon and associated him with Set.


Yeah, but the Christians who keep on repeating this idea that Trump has been saved by God don't see God that way.


Hitler's followers thought he was doing good too. No one ever wants to consider the possibility that maybe they're the bad guys.


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16 Sep 2024, 4:17 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:
King Kat 1 wrote:
I'm sure the whole " God spared his life" thing has already started :twisted:


For the record, Hitler kept surviving assassination attempt after assassination attempt by his own officer corps. So like with Hitler, if we're wondering about who's looking out for Trump, maybe we shouldn't be looking up to the heavens.


Or you're just making the wrong assumptions about YHWH's moral alignment. :nerdy:


Possibly, though the very idea of that is terrifying.


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16 Sep 2024, 4:43 pm

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Possibly, though the very idea of that is terrifying.


I'm not sure why it would be any more terrifying than any other concept of god. If you're trying to explain natural suffering, an imperfect demiurge makes more sense than an all-knowing, all-powerful, all-good and all-present god who allows suffering anyways.

I'd argue that natural suffering can't be reconciled with a creator god that possesses those four omnis, so a malicious god seems much more believable than the more common understandings.


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