Survey finds significant antisemitism among hiring managers

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28 Dec 2023, 6:54 am

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I notice that the survey data did NOT include a question about location. It would be interesting to know the specific parts of the U.S.A. in which the listed anti-Jewish beliefs are most or least common.

There may be something to this. My son is a surgeon at a hospital in a large Midwestern city. He's Jewish, but you wouldn't know unless he told you. He trained for years in Baltimore. He told us that where he works now, he sometimes encounters expressions of casual antisemitism unlike anything he ever saw in Baltimore. I really have no idea why this should be. The area he’s in is very urban and diverse.


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28 Dec 2023, 10:38 am

This is an Israeli survey about the US. Maybe it's an American thing? Americans seem to be a lot into indentifying themselves as "Irish Americans", "Italian Americans"or "Jewish Americans" and do a lot of bonding around that while at the same time keeping track on everybody elses backgrounds as well. The US is also an extremely strong supporter of Israel. Maybe that's the cause to why some people in the survey have these ideas of "jewish power and influence"? Here in Europe people in general have no idea, and don't care, if someone is Jewish or not unless they are part of some orthodox group living outside society. The European countries in general also have a more balanced view on Israel with leading politicians critizing it's politics when needed.


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28 Dec 2023, 11:42 am

Very small sample but when I first started this thread a little over a year ago most who responded were either cynical or completely disbelieving of the survey results. Since MaxE restarted this conversation the survey results have not been disputed. I do think our tiny sample is representative of more awareness of the scope of the problem because while antisemitism was a pretty big item in the news then it is at a completely different level now.

In a post back then I wrote about main subtypes of antisemitism and did discuss blowback from events in the mideast. Looking back on it what I would change is my statement that that the blowback was solely from Americans with background from that region and people from that region living here.

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Here on Long Island I have encountered only very occasional expressions of stereotypes in the last couple of decades. They have in the form of the expressions of “Jew You Down”, “Jewish Lightning” (torching property for the purpose of collecting insurance), and similar to what autistics have described assumptions of unusually high intelligence. Nothing has been different locally since the war broke out. People who know I am Jewish wished me a happy Hanukkah. No vandalism so far. This is a far cry from growing up the 60s in the 70s when I was called k*e more times then I care to remember any my synagogue was “decorated” with swastikas on most Jewish holidays.

Important caveats back then I was not 66 years old nor had physical disabilities. Then as now most “haters” did not mess with people in my demographic. I am pretty sure that if I was in my 20s or 30s sans disabilities with typical amount of socialization I would have run into “situations” in the last few years, especially since 10/7.


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This is an Israeli survey about the US. Maybe it's an American thing? Americans seem to be a lot into indentifying themselves as "Irish Americans", "Italian Americans"or "Jewish Americans" and do a lot of bonding around that while at the same time keeping track on everybody elses backgrounds as well. The US is also an extremely strong supporter of Israel. Maybe that's the cause to why some people in the survey have these ideas of "jewish power and influence"? Here in Europe people in general have no idea, and don't care, if someone is Jewish or not unless they are part of some orthodox group living outside society. The European countries in general also have a more balanced view on Israel with leading politicians critizing it's politics when needed.

I mostly disagree. While I do believe we identify with our backgrounds more here antisemitism has been endemic in Europe for centuries. One could go back to the Spanish Inquisition in the 1400s and The ‘Merchant of Venice’ in the 1500s. The uber text of modern antisemitism ‘The Protocols of the Elders of Zion’ came out of Russia. And need I mention Nazi Germany and their enthusiastic accomplices in the counties they conquered?

Moving on to this century America has been recently catching up to Europe as far as open antisemitic incidents are concerned. While anti zionism is not antisemitism there are connections. I do not think it is a coincidence that antisemitism is rising in America at a time when it is becoming somewhat more acceptable to be anti zionist(there is still a palpable risk of not being hired, fired, and defunded for being openly anti zionist in America that I do not believe exists in Europe) because people who hate Jews have become more emboldened about it, or found that being anti zionist is a more acceptable/coded way of expressing their hate. Also fury at images out of Gaza are leading people who are not anti Jewish into tone deafness.

I would be very remiss if I did not mention an important factor that began in America, the Trump phenomenon. I need to point out that a good percentage of MAGA’s do not hate Jews but that his language has been taken as a signal by Jew haters. Unfortunately the Trump phenomenon spread to Europe under the guise of political parties described as “far right” or “nationalist”. But their successes would not have happened to nearly the degree that it has if antisemitism was not deeply embedded in the various European cultures.


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28 Dec 2023, 11:57 am

It sickens me to think that crap like this is still happening in late 2023.


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28 Dec 2023, 5:28 pm

Clearly they did not survey people hiring for accounting, auditing, bookkeeping or financial controller roles.. :lol:


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28 Dec 2023, 7:34 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
I mostly disagree. While I do believe we identify with our backgrounds more here antisemitism has been endemic in Europe for centuries. One could go back to the Spanish Inquisition in the 1400s and The ‘Merchant of Venice’ in the 1500s. The uber text of modern antisemitism ‘The Protocols of the Elders of Zion’ came out of Russia. And need I mention Nazi Germany and their enthusiastic accomplices in the counties they conquered?


So there wasn't any antisemitism in the US in the 1400's? :? How could it be when the US wasn't founded until 1776? :wink: But, maybe some of these old time antisemitic people are the forefathers to people that in later days moved to america and brought these ideas with them? I think "Europe is being more antisemitic than the US" is just a myth that some Americans tell themselves to explain the different view on Israel.


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05 Dec 2024, 12:01 pm

Post October 7th survey
By Dr. Bryan Tomlin, Professor of Economics and Chair of the Department of Economics in the Martin V. Smith School of Business and Economics at California State University Channel Islands.

Report sponsored by the Anti-Defamation League.

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Abstract
A pre-registered, large sample, field experiment was conducted in an effort to obtain the data necessary to objectively answer the question: do Americans who signal Jewish or Israeli backgrounds experience discrimination in the U.S. labor market? 3,000 inquiries were sent to job postings across the United States using identical email text and identical resumés that differed only in (a) the name of the applicant – selected to “sound” Jewish, Israeli, or Western European – and (b) resumé signals of likely Jewish, Israeli, or Western European background. The results confirm the presence of anti-Semitic behavior in this market. Relative to the control (European American), the “Jewish Treatment” needed to send 24.2% more inquiries to receive the same number of responses; the “Israeli Treatment” needed to send 39.0% more. All differences are statistically significant across model specifications.

1. Introduction
Specifically, Federal Labor Law prohibits discrimination against a person in hiring decisions based upon their race or national origin.Unlike violent crime, such adverse treatment based on one’s religion is exceedingly difficult, if not impossible, for any one individual to prove as one has only limited interactions on which to base their conclusions. Being unaware of the skills or qualifications of other applicants, an individual applicant cannot independently determine if they are missing out on a job opportunity because of their religion, or simply because they are less qualified than the competition.

To this end, a pre-registered, large sample, field experiment was conducted in an effort to obtain the data necessary to objectively answer the question: do Americans who signal Jewish or Israeli backgrounds experience discrimination in the U.S. labor market? 3,000 inquiries were sent to job postings across the United States using identical email text and identical resumés that differed only in (a) the name of the applicant – selected to “sound” Jewish, Israeli, or Western European – and (b) resumé signals of likely Jewish, Israeli, or Western European background.The results conform with the general pattern of anti-Semitic behavior observed in the above referenced ADL and FBI reports: relative to the control (European American), the “Jewish Treatment” needed to send 24.2% more inquiries to receive the same number of responses; the “Israeli Treatment” needed to send 39.0% more. All differences are statistically significant across model specifications.

II. Experimental Methodology
The methodology employed by this paper follows a between employer approach similar to that utilized by other correspondence based field experiments in the labor market, and is described in detail below.

1. Treatments and sample size
3,000 email inquiries were sent to job postings across the United States between May 2024 and October 2024. All inquiries were sent from applicants whose names were chosen to be “female sounding,” specifically: Kristen Miller (Western European – “control”), Rebecca Cohen ( “Jewish Treatment”), and Lia Avraham ( “Israeli Treatment”). Each posting was sent a single inquiry from a single applicant which was randomly assigned. This random assignment resulted in observation counts of 1,036, 1,002, and 962 for the control, Jewish, and Israeli Treatments respectively.

2. Job postings selection
Job postings were sourced from Craigslist.org because it is one of the few remaining online job-boards where person-to-person email is the primary mode of interaction as opposed to an online application process, or an AI driven resumé screening. All postings to which inquiries were sent were in the field of administrative assistance. This field was chosen because it offers a large sample, is ubiquitously in demand across geographic regions, and is needed across a variety of industries. It is also a position that is often “forward facing” (likely to involve direct client interaction) and may therefore be sensitive to both the employer’s prejudice and the perceived prejudice of the customers. Only listings for which all applicants were qualified were selected. For example, if a listing required fluency in Spanish, that would not be selected because none of the applicants listed Spanish fluency as a resumé item. Listings were carefully screened to ensure they were legitimate (not “scams”), but 8 such scams did slip through the cracks (and were revealed via the scammer’s response to the applicant’s inquiry). These observations were dropped from the analysis.

4. Resumés and signals of treatment
All applicants had identical resumés that were tailored for the city in which they were applying by changing the name of the institution from which they received their degree to the name of a nearby public university of solid academic reputation.

In addition to the applicant’s name and email address, the resumés included four signals of the treatment: (1) The emphasis of their literature degree, (2) The name of the restaurant at which they had previously worked, (3) The name of the youth sports organization for which they volunteered, and (4) The second language in which they were fluent.

5. Coding Responses
Responses from employers were coded by assigning binary answers for each of the following questions: (i) Did the employer encourage future contact? (ii) Did the employer seem interested? (iii) Did the employer state that the position was no longer available? (iv) Did the employer say anything discouraging? (v) Did the employer suggest another position? The analysis below is based on a definition of “positive response” where-in nothing negative or discouraging was stated. Specifically, for the sake of the analysis below, a response is considered to be positive if both (iii) and (iv) were answered in the negative. The results in terms of the size and statistical significance of differential treatment between groups are robust across various definitions of “positive response.”

6. Replying to responses
As is typical with studies of this nature, to ensure that employers would not slow or cease their employee-search due to the study, upon receiving a response (within 24 hours) – positive or negative – the applicant would reply with a short email thanking the employer for their response and letting them know that they had found employment elsewhere.

III. Robustness Checks
Treatments were randomly assigned across inquiries, and the analysis discussed in Section IV controls for observable differences across inquiries including the posted wage, the city in which the job was posted, and the local unemployment level in the month the inquiry was sent. As shown in Table 1: Models 2 and 3 (Section IV), the estimated effect on positive response rates of the listing’s posted wage and regional unemployment rates were both negative. This suggests that employers, on average, behaved as expected: being more selective when offering a better wage and/or when unemployment rates were higher.

Because wage and local unemployment are predictive of positive response rates, a “reverse regression” was performed (multinomial logistic) to ensure that treatment was not predictive of these listing characteristics. This test showed that neither wage nor regional unemployment were predictive of treatment, though some treatments were disproportionately represented in cities for which there were few observations. These cities (with sample sizes less than 20) were dropped from the analysis. After removing these cities and the “scam” listings, the ultimate sample size for the analysis was N = 2,911.

While it is impossible to know the extent to which the signals of treatment were perceived by employers, qualitative evidence from employer responses suggests that – when perceived – the signals were clear. For example, several responses to inquiries from the Israeli Treatment (or responses to responses) were written in Hebrew (e.g. “Behazlacha!!" in response to the response informing the employer that the applicant had found another job), or referenced the applicant’s heritage in some way. Neither the control treatment nor the Jewish American treatment received responses in their second languages (French and German, respectively), nor did they receive any responses discussing their heritage.

IV. Results
Because inquiry texts were identical and treatments were randomly assigned, differences in response rates can be attributed to the remaining differences in the applications which were controlled to be specifically the Western European, Jewish, or Israeli Treatment signals.

Across specifications, we see that both the Jewish and the Israeli Treatments experienced a decrease in positive response rates relative to the control. These differences are statistically significant across all three models. For example, in the baseline model (Model 1), we see that, relative to the control, the Jewish Treatment experiences a 3.4 percentage point lower positive response rate (p = 0.038) while the Israeli Treatment receives a 4.9 percentage point lower response rate (p = 0.002). This means that, to receive the same number of positive responses as the Western European Treatment, the Jewish Treatment must send 24.2% more inquiries, and the Israeli Treatment must send 39.0% more inquiries.

While the above results show negative differential treatment across the U.S. as a whole, a city-level examination shows that the results vary by location. While the Israeli Treatment fared worse on average across all markets, there were two markets in which that treatment fared better: New York City and Philadelphia. The extent to which the Israeli Treatment fared better in these markets is not statistically significant relative to either of the other treatments, even when pooling these markets together. Determining whether this result is simply noise associated with a small sample or if there is something particular about these markets is a topic worthy of future study. The only market in which the difference in response rates is statistically significant at the city level is in Seattle, where the Israeli Treatment is 16.3 percentage points less likely to receive a positive response relative to the control (23.1% vs 6.8%), and this difference is statistically significant (p = 0.014) using the Model 1 specification as well as the Model 2 specification (p = 0.018). Similar to New York City and Philadelphia, understanding why this pattern appears to be so strong in Seattle relative to other markets is a topic worthy of further investigation.

V. Discussion
The results of this analysis suggest that anti-Semitism is not limited to the readily identifiable verbal/physical space as identified by the ADL and the FBI, but also exists within the labor market, as well. However, because this study focused on the market for administrators, the extent to which these results can be applied to other markets is not known, and it would be helpful if future research were to test for anti-Semitism in other industries as well. Moreover, given the results of this study, further investigation of potential adverse treatment of these protected groups in other markets (non-labor) is warranted as well.


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05 Dec 2024, 12:29 pm

BillyTree wrote:
I think "Europe is being more antisemitic than the US" is just a myth that some Americans tell themselves to explain the different view on Israel.

About 20 years ago, I used to know an Orthodox Jewish man who lived here in the U.S.A. but had also had spent some time in various European countries (including France and Hungary, if I remember correctly). He told me he encountered a lot more anti-Jewish bigotry in the European countries than in the U.S.A.


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