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11 Jul 2016, 4:39 am

heavenlyabyss wrote:

Psychology 101. People need their voices heard.

As long as no violence is being committed, I support the protests. I don't care about freeways being shut down. It's nothing compared to murder.

People are angry and they are going to make damn well sure their voices are heard. That's just basic psychology.

The more people condemn movements like Black Lives matter, the more they are going to feel invalidated and the more they are going to protest. You people want to end this madness, just let the protests continue and stop defending corrupt police officers.

Agreed, 100%.

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11 Jul 2016, 4:55 am

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The Governor of Michigan proposed one solution.

He wants to bring in thousands of immigrants with a Masters degree or better, or specialized education.

To build a tax base up in Detroit.

So, change the ghetto from the inside. Less blacks, and more educated people.

Do you at all recognize the racist aspect to this post?

Well, the black groups say, "They want to take away afro-power".

But we know better, right? Immigrants help the community, right?

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11 Jul 2016, 5:01 am

BTW, here is a relatively recent poll (February - May) on US public opinion wrt. Black Lives Matter.

Source: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... -movement/

Please note that this poll was made *prior* to the most recent events (The deaths of Alton Sterling & Philando Castile and the Dallas shooting deaths of 5 police officers), so it is quite likely that some may have changed their views subsequently... Although I cannot say in what direction...

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11 Jul 2016, 5:15 am

LoveNotHate wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

Do you at all recognize the racist aspect to this post?

Well, the black groups say, "They want to take away afro-power".

But we know better, right? Immigrants help the community, right?

It's not about immigrants that makes your post racist, but that you see Detroit deliberately becoming less black, as if race is the problem.

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11 Jul 2016, 6:07 am

The interesting thing regarding say, black males feeling scared that police will kill them:

Is it a reasonable fear?

Say, from a population of more than 20 million people, 400 are killed each year by police (2015 totals). Over 75% are "good" shootings.

Going to fiction and assuming that all 400 are murders, is that still a reasonable fear?

Do they fear the 2400+ murders each year by the hands of their "own"?

I'm having a hard time thinking that either of those numbers are something to be concerned about, especially that you can avoid both in most instances by avoiding criminal activity (criminals kill other criminals and police kill criminals/criminals kill police, in its most simplest breakdown).

Of course, protesting and doing things to reduce those numbers, whichever one you choose to focus on, is a good thing, of course. But, perspective still needs to be looked at, and I think the whole, "no justice no peace" stuff could probably be toned down.

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11 Jul 2016, 6:33 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

heavenlyabyss wrote:

Agreed, 100%.

NO.

Homosexuals didn't get same sex marriage by using the deplorable tactics BLM use.

I don't care what your cause is if you're behaving like beasts to advance it.

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11 Jul 2016, 7:37 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

Do you at all recognize the racist aspect to this post?

Well, the black groups say, "They want to take away afro-power".

But we know better, right? Immigrants help the community, right?

It's not about immigrants that makes your post racist, but that you see Detroit deliberately becoming less black, as if race is the problem.

You just said it yesterday, on the other forum, how "too many white people in a city" is a problem.

Apparently, you have a double-standard.

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11 Jul 2016, 12:29 pm

People do know that far more black people are killed by black people than cops, right?

People do know that the police kill more white people per year than black people, right?

People do know that the news outlets spin their news so that it focus on just those bloody bits that will sell newspapers as opposed to the whole story, right?

People do know that people want simple solutions to complex problems so it's easier to point the finger at others and not the man in the mirror, right?

People do know that they're coming to their own, albeit wrong, conclusions and reacting on them based on the partial news they receive from the media, right?

People do know that ALL lives matter, whether the black person is being killed by a cop or another black person, or the white person is being killed by a cop or another white person, right?

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11 Jul 2016, 12:50 pm

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11 Jul 2016, 1:03 pm

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Many people don't realize any of that, because they focus too much on the stupid media and not much else.

BLM has good intentions but is still not the right thing always. Anytime a black person dies- they tend to act like the person was innocent 100 percent of the time, which is far from the truth. But on the flipside- the police are horrible especially in certain cities. There needs to be better training, harsher punishments for cops that do garbage (in general, not just against blacks), etc.

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11 Jul 2016, 1:06 pm

nobody marches when they kill some mentally ill person they were called to do a welfare check on, it's only the politically exploitable they care about

these race pimps sow the seeds of division for their own political ends and the media is complicit with their sensationalism and blatant race baiting

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11 Jul 2016, 1:17 pm

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11 Jul 2016, 1:18 pm

Interesting.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/up ... tings.html

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11 Jul 2016, 1:57 pm

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Interesting.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/up ... tings.html

And you couldn't have a better display of journalistic biases than these two headlines reporting on the same story:

New York Times:
"Surprising New Evidence Shows Bias in Police Use of Force but Not in Shootings"

Daily Wire:
"6 Facts From New Study Finding NO RACIAL BIAS Against Blacks In Police Shootings"
http://www.dailywire.com/news/7343/new- ... es-barrett

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11 Jul 2016, 3:27 pm

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I agree with you: the exact same fury should go into protests against the police killing of mentally ill people.

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11 Jul 2016, 3:34 pm

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It's just not only about being killed by the police, but also because blacks are disproportionately targeted by the police for arrest and harassment, as if they were the only ones who commit crimes. The Minnesota man had been pulled over multiple times in his life, either for piddling sh*t, or even without justification. What white person has to go through that? Blacks are afraid of cops because it's assumed by the cops that said blacks are apparently guilty of something.

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