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25 Feb 2022, 7:51 pm

I guess we'll find out soon enough. Might as well sit back and watch, it's not like we have any influence over the events.

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25 Feb 2022, 7:53 pm

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So this is another reason not to send troops to Ukraine. Russians themselves may force Putin to check his territorial ambitions. The average Russian wants to be a good global citizen as well.

I think it's a misconception that Putin has any territorial ambitions. Influence, sure.

It would seem the media is painting another picture

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25 Feb 2022, 8:17 pm

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Tons of respect to the citizens there speaking out, and not buying the excuses for the invasion.

I concur!

Putin sure knows how to be a good liar and always will have a puppet in the form of Donald Trump.

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25 Feb 2022, 8:25 pm

Like Russia gives a damn about Russians, even.

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25 Feb 2022, 8:26 pm

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Like Russia gives a damn about Russians, even.

As if Putin understands his people when it's clear he does not.

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25 Feb 2022, 8:27 pm

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Like Russia gives a damn about Russians, even.

They will have to
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... e-invasion

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25 Feb 2022, 8:34 pm

A lot of Russians getting arrested
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... ests-putin

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26 Feb 2022, 3:29 am

Well, the Russians themselves were never the enemy. They're just people who haven't had the courage to stand up to the regime they find themselves under. No, the real cancer on our world is Putin himself, and I look forward to the day when he's six feet under. Well, he along with multiple other tumors such as China's fascist establishment, but as my family is about 1/4 Ukrainian, I have a special hatred for Putin.

With that said, I don't hate the Russians invading Ukraine. I just see them as unfortunate pawns, so the Russian casualties in the current conflict sadden me too, even if they are necessary to protect Ukraine. I hope the Russians will one day be able to stand up to that monster in the Kremlin, but I fear that it will have to be old age that takes him (and he probably has another couple decades left).

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26 Feb 2022, 3:38 am

Yes, brave Russians who stand up to this monster.

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26 Feb 2022, 4:27 am

See even Boris has the right idea to get Putin to back down
https://au.news.yahoo.com/how-london-co ... 37828.html

Sanctions + public unrest in Russia will eventually hurt Putin

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26 Feb 2022, 4:57 am

Sanctions are probably why China tries to play neutral instead of supporting Russia. They're unlikely to stop Putin but they can strongly discourage potential allies and/or followers.
I'm ready for more expensive gas if that's the price.

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26 Feb 2022, 5:55 am

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China and India supporting Russia in the security council. American supporting Pakistan has come back to bite them.

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26 Feb 2022, 6:01 am

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Putin wasn't able to come up with as good a lie as the weapons of mass destruction.

I believe recently they did push the narrative that NATO may bring nukes back into Ukraine.

I find that hard to believe.

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26 Feb 2022, 6:03 am

Pepe wrote:

r00tb33r wrote:

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Putin wasn't able to come up with as good a lie as the weapons of mass destruction.

I believe recently they did push the narrative that NATO may bring nukes back into Ukraine.

I find that hard to believe.

I said narrative. Here it is:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/us/politics/putin-ukraine-nuclear-weapons.html

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26 Feb 2022, 6:03 am

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i didn't then and don't now get how so many people were fooled.

No kidding, right? Same goes for the five wzrs in the ME that Ibama got us into.

Let's all be glad President Biden got US troops withdrawn from Afghanistan.

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26 Feb 2022, 6:08 am

r00tb33r wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

So this is another reason not to send troops to Ukraine. Russians themselves may force Putin to check his territorial ambitions. The average Russian wants to be a good global citizen as well.

I think it's a misconception that Putin has any territorial ambitions. Influence, sure.

Good one...
Oh, you were serious.

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